BEGIN --> chmbbs-jan93.log <--- I am a first year grad student at PennState University, and at present I am trying to perform some CHARMm calculations (with Polygen QUANTA) on metal-carbon clusters. My problem is how can I obtain the correct paramaters for metals such as Ti, V, and Zr to do these calculations. Thank You. brian@opus.chem.psu.edu I would like a reference that lists the parameters used in the CHARMM potential energy functions: a) charges q, polarisability alphas, and vander waals radii for each atom type and a description of the atom types and b) the force constants and eq. property values for the torsional, bond stretching terms etc. thanks in advance, shahul h. nilar biotechnology resarch institute, national res. council of canada, 6100 ave royalmount ave montreal h4p 2r2 canada From nauss@wrair-emh1.army.mil Fri Jan 8 14:12:54 1993 Received: from WRAIR-EMH1.ARMY.MIL by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) for dchin id AA12505; Fri, 8 Jan 93 14:12:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9301081912.AA12505@emperor.harvard.edu> Date: 8 Jan 93 13:35:00 EST From: nauss@wrair-emh1.army.mil Subject: Public domain or academic versions of CHARMM To: "charmm-bbs" Status: R Currently, I am seeking an academic position at a small college or university where I can continue my research in computer modeling of biological molecules. A question that comes up regularly is the cost of the high-powered software. Can anyone provide a point-of-contact (name, address, telephone number, and e-mail address) for obtaining a public domain or academic version of CHARMM? Either the NIH or Harvard dialects will be satisfactory. Will there be any fees such as licensing fees? What platforms can they run on? Jeff Nauss -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail address: nauss@wrair-emh1.army.mil Mailing Address: Department of Gastroenterology Division of Medicine Walter Reed Army Institute of Research ATTN: MAJ Jeffrey L. Nauss, Ph.D. Washington, D.C. 20307-5100 Telephone: 202-576-3485 Recently, I have attempted some molecular dynamics simulations of different linear peptides and cyclic compounds. I am using Quanta version 3.2 and CHARMM 21. I have attempted to run these simulations at elevated temperatures to cover a wider area of conformational space. Unfortunately, I have often seen wide temperature fluctuations during the equilibration phase as velocites are scaled. Sometimes these fluctuations will be between O and 9000K! For example, suddenly, CHARMM will report that the velocities are being scaled from say 600K to 0K and neither temperature is my equilibration temperature. The next equilibration step or cycle the CHARMM reports that the scaling is from OK to 600K. And continues to cycle in this manner. Other times, the system may equilibrate satisfactorily (or at least it appears so to me) then during the actual simulation, the temperature will slowly increase to over 10,000K and the molecule is, of course, destroyed. I have examined my script files and attempted several variations to correct these problems. But to no avail. Does anyone have any suugestions on what may be wrong? Any ideas on tests that I could perform? I will not bias anyone by stating what variations I have tried. I am looking for fresh ideas and am becoming desperate. Thanks for your time and thoughts... Jeff Nauss -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail address: nauss@wrair-emh1.army.mil Mailing Address: Department of Gastroenterology Division of Medicine Walter Reed Army Institute of Research ATTN: MAJ Jeffrey L. Nauss, Ph.D. Washington, D.C. 20307-5100 Telephone: 202-576-3485 Currently, I am seeking an academic position at a small college or university where I can continue my research in computer modeling of biological molecules. A question that comes up regularly is the cost of the high-powered software. Can anyone provide a point-of-contact (name, address, telephone number, and e-mail address) for obtaining a public domain or academic version of CHARMM? Either the NIH or Harvard dialects will be satisfactory. Will there be any fees such as licensing fees? What platforms can they run on? Jeff Nauss -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail address: nauss@wrair-emh1.army.mil Mailing Address: Department of Gastroenterology Division of Medicine Walter Reed Army Institute of Research ATTN: MAJ Jeffrey L. Nauss, Ph.D. Washington, D.C. 20307-5100 Telephone: 202-576-3485 From ryszard@MSI.COM Fri Jan 8 18:29:45 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) for dchin id AA12803; Fri, 8 Jan 93 18:29:45 -0500 Received: from hogan.MSI.COM ([192.190.4.245]) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01044; Fri, 8 Jan 93 18:25:58 EST Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA10759; Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:27:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:27:30 -0500 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9301082327.AA10759@hogan.MSI.COM> To: charmm-bbs Subject: QUANTA/CHARMm and metals Status: R Brian, One way is to take parameters from parameter files and if some are missing do your own parametrization... Ryszard From bobf@MSI.COM Fri Jan 8 18:46:32 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) for dchin id AA12816; Fri, 8 Jan 93 18:46:32 -0500 Received: from support (support.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01143; Fri, 8 Jan 93 18:42:45 EST Received: by support (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA14669; Fri, 8 Jan 93 18:43:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 18:43:13 -0500 From: bobf@MSI.COM Message-Id: <9301082343.AA14669@support> Organization: Molecular Simulations Inc. Phone: (617) 229-9800 ext. 202 To: charmm-bbs Subject: Re: parameters Status: R Shahul Nilar writes: > I would like a reference that lists the parameters used in the > CHARMM potential energy functions: > > a) charges q, polarisability alphas, and vander waals radii for > each atom type and a description of the atom types > > and > > b) the force constants and eq. property values for the torsional, > bond stretching terms etc. > If I understand the question properly, these values are all listed in the PARM.PRM file in the data subdirectory. A listing of the atom types, with a brief description of the intended use, is found in MASSES.RTF in the same directory. Bob Funchess Opinions or statements contained in this letter are not to be construed as official statements of Molecular Simulations Inc. Customers with current maintenance contracts in place are welcome to contact the Molecular Simulations technical support hotline at 1-800-756-4674. -- Dr. Robert B. Funchess Molecular Simulations Inc. Technical Support Scientist 16 New England Executive Park bobf@msi.com Burlington, MA 01803-5297 (617) 229-9800 x202 FAX (617) 229-9899 From sfleisch@hydra.convex.com Sat Jan 9 17:42:33 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) for dchin id AA13190; Sat, 9 Jan 93 17:42:33 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA18606; Sat, 9 Jan 93 17:40:39 EST Received: from hydra.convex.com by convex.convex.com (5.64/1.35) id AA23531; Sat, 9 Jan 93 16:40:28 -0600 Received: by hydra.convex.com (5.64/1.28) id AA15248; Sat, 9 Jan 93 16:40:27 -0600 Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 16:40:27 -0600 From: sfleisch@hydra.convex.com (Steve Fleischman) Message-Id: <9301092240.AA15248@hydra.convex.com> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: C21 versus C22 speed Status: R CHARMM Problem Report Form Please use this form to report problems you have found in using CHARMM. Send your problem report to charmm-bugs@tammy.harvard.edu ========================================================================= Name : Stephen Fleischman Email Address : sfleisch@convex.com Institution : Convex Computer Corporation Date : Jan. 9, 1992 CHARMM version : 23a1 (actuall 22) Machine : Convex C series Operating System : ConvexOS FORTRAN version : fc 7.0 Optimization : default Command(s) involved (including options used): dynamics One-line summary : C22 was reported to significantly slower than C21r3 Convex version. Detailed description: There have been a number of reports that the Convex version of CHARMM 22 is significantly slower than CHARMM21r3 available from MSI but actually done at from Convex. There was also a report that this is true for the SGI. I will not address that problem in this report. One such report was from Prof. Ernst Mehler at Mt. Sinai Hospital. So, using a benchmark derived from one of his test cases I constructed a dynamics test. The test involves 100 steps of dynamics of calmodulin with water resulting in 6817 atoms. This is not the exact system Prof. Mehler tested but does confirm his observations. The original verlet integrator was used and SHAKE was not. The fast nonbond routines were also used. I profiled the jobs with both versions of CHARMM and found that in CHARMM 22 the program was using ENBFV8 not ENBF3 as in CHARMM21r3. This is due to the fact that the input used the command FAST 1. This results in LMACH being set to 1 and the vector routines by Youngdo Won (and predecessors) being used. If FAST PARVECT or FAST 4 is set then LMACH is 2 and the parvect routines by yours truly are engaged. Here are the resulting CPU times: CHARMM 21 rev. 3: 21.27 min. CHARMM 22 VECTOR: 28.78 min. CHARMM 22 PARVECT: 20.57 min. So the current solution is to specify FAST PARVECT or FAST 4 (35% faster in this case.) Ironically, FAST CONVEX results in use of the slower vector routines. Go figure. Also, the default for Convex versions coming out of Harvard is to have the fast non-bond routines not be used. In that case one needs to issue the command: SPECIFY FNBL ON. This is not true for the MSI commercial version which is built at Convex. There may be other causes for slow down with the use of the newer dynamics routine and SHAKE. IF fast SHAKE is used it shouldn't be too much of a problem. I will at some point look at the fast scalar routines (since I need to support HP now). As Bernie Brooks and Milan Hodosheck have reported, the parvect routines are also 10% faster on the Cray than the Cray routines. Sample input to reproduce the problem: Available upon request. Other Comments: Remove the vector and Cray ( :-) just kidding Charlie) routines. From nauss@wrair-emh1.army.mil Fri Jan 8 14:12:54 1993 Received: from WRAIR-EMH1.ARMY.MIL by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) for dchin id AA12505; Fri, 8 Jan 93 14:12:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9301081912.AA12505@emperor.harvard.edu> Date: 8 Jan 93 13:35:00 EST From: nauss@wrair-emh1.army.mil Subject: Public domain or academic versions of CHARMM To: "charmm-bbs" Status: RO Currently, I am seeking an academic position at a small college or university where I can continue my research in computer modeling of biological molecules. A question that comes up regularly is the cost of the high-powered software. Can anyone provide a point-of-contact (name, address, telephone number, and e-mail address) for obtaining a public domain or academic version of CHARMM? Either the NIH or Harvard dialects will be satisfactory. Will there be any fees such as licensing fees? What platforms can they run on? Jeff Nauss -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail address: nauss@wrair-emh1.army.mil Mailing Address: Department of Gastroenterology Division of Medicine Walter Reed Army Institute of Research ATTN: MAJ Jeffrey L. Nauss, Ph.D. Washington, D.C. 20307-5100 Telephone: 202-576-3485 From muegge@groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de Tue Jan 12 08:39:59 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) for dchin id AA15472; Tue, 12 Jan 93 08:39:59 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA03492; Tue, 12 Jan 93 08:37:51 EST Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de (130.133.217.3) with smtp id ; Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:37 MET Received: by groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) id ; Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:37 MET Message-Id: From: muegge@groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Ingo Muegge) Subject: Re: Temperature Fluctuations & Dynamics Simulation To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:37:25 MET X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: RO Dear Jeff, Do you have reset the nonbonded list often enough during your simulations? The mobility of atoms increases with higher temperatures considerably. It could be possible that your time step is to big at this temperature. Which sort of equilibration you are using for the simulations? An rather gentle way to heat up your system is by using Langevin dynamics. You couple all or a portion of atoms to an external heat bath. That is calling "quasi canonic". The scaling or assigning mechanism responsible for vibrations of the energy and temperatur is avoided. Ingo Muegge. -- |~| Ingo Muegge | Freie Universitaet Berlin / \ muegge@harpo.chemie.fu-berlin.de | Institut fuer Kristallographie /FUB\ phone +49 30 838-3890 | Takustrasse 6 `---' fax -6702 | D-1000 Berlin 33 Germany From chandra@yorvic.york.ac.uk Wed Jan 13 08:17:22 1993 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) for dchin id AA16422; Wed, 13 Jan 93 08:17:22 -0500 Via: uk.ac.york.yorvic; Wed, 13 Jan 1993 13:14:51 +0000 From: Chandra Verma Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 12:22:12 GMT Message-Id: <26731.9301131222@yorvic.york.ac.uk> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Hi Status: RO Has anyone implemented CHARMM (some recent version) on the intel i860 systems under NX/2 protocols. - or in general under any multi-processor multi-memory systems. If so i would be grateful for any help thanx chandra From brbrooks@helix.nih.gov Wed Jan 13 11:01:30 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) for dchin id AA16495; Wed, 13 Jan 93 11:01:30 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA28294; Wed, 13 Jan 93 10:59:24 EST Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA26250; Wed, 13 Jan 93 10:59:20 -0500 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA09158; Wed, 13 Jan 93 10:59:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 10:59:04 -0500 From: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov (Bernie Brooks) Message-Id: <9301131559.AA09158@helix.nih.gov> To: chandra@yorvic.york.ac.uk, charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Re: Hi Status: RO Chandra, We have a version of CHARMM23 running on an Intel iPSC/860. For 128 nodes, the efficiency is roughly 60% (factor of 80) using a 12A nonbond energy cutoff. Bernie Brooks From tennantm1%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com Thu Jan 14 06:16:23 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) for dchin id AA17498; Thu, 14 Jan 93 06:16:23 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA18846; Thu, 14 Jan 93 06:14:18 EST Received: from FRGEN.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by smithkline.com (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA20727; Thu, 14 Jan 93 06:05:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 93 06:05:24 -0500 Message-Id: <9301141105.AA20727@smithkline.com> From: tennantm1%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com (Mike Tennant. Harlow x3328) To: "charmm-bbs@emperor@harvard.harvard.edu"%INET.dnet@smithkline.com Cc: TENNANTM1@smithkline.com Subject: Langevin Dynamics Status: R Hi! A quick, hopefully trivial, question! When using Langevin dynamics with NO explicit solvent, i.e. just using the frictional effects to dampen to atomic motions, does anybody know whether it is more 'correct' to use a constant, as oppose to a distance-dependant, dielectric?? Mike Tennant. Smithkline Beecham. Coldharbour Road, Harlow, Essex. UK. Email: tennantm1@phvax.smithkline.com Greetings, I'm uncertain to whom this message should be sent, so it's going to the 'emperor'. I have been having a tough luck in using CHARMM with small organic molecules (not peptides). It seems that > 90% of the structures wind up with missing force field parameters. The reason for this message is two-fold. (1) Can we distribute new parameters by this E-mail club? (2) A recent paper (Karfunkel & Gdantz, J. Comput. Chem., 1992, 13, 1171-1183) relied heavily on QUANTA/CHARMM for small molecule and crystal structure optimizations. I note that Karfunkel (Switzerland) is not on your E-mail address list. He should be unless he does not wish to be. In the paper is the statement "A copy of the force field parameter file in CHARMM format (about 60 pp.) is available from the authors upon request." I have written to Karfunkel requesting the data but at this moment have not received a reply. Could the MSI and/or CHARMM front offices make such a request? Thanks, Herman Ammon, phone = 301-405-1824. We want to write distances between atoms to a file using WRITE TITLES. We expected ?RAXI to be useful for this purpose (after filling the RAXI variable with COOR AXIS), but find that when ?RAXI is put in a WRITE TITLE title line, it is not replaced with a number. Instead, the characters "?RAXI" appear in the file. Likewise, when the command "SET 1 ?RAXI" is issued, the error message "RAXI is not an energy variable" is issued. Is there a simple way to do this? -Dave Busath and Steve Bogusz One way is to use "quick" command which writes to output followed by grep. Quick is described in miscom.doc. Ryszard Czerminski, MSI Dave/Steve, If you can't get ?RAXI to give you what you want, try COOR DISTANCE SELE ... SELE ... UNIT n Where UNIT n is a card file previously opened. Tim Mitchell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | _____ ____ || SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals Ltd | | / ___\\\\ _ \ || Brockham Park | | | |___ \\|_| | || Tim Mitchell (Comp. Chem.) Betchworth | | \____ \ | _ < || Phone (0)737 36 4535 Surrey | | ____| | | |_| | || Fax. (0)737 36 4539 RH3 7AJ | | \_____/ |____/ || mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com U.K. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Origional query follows....... From: INET::"BUSATH@BROWNVM.brown.edu" 19-JAN-1993 19:48:55.35 To: CHARMM-BBS%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu CC: Subj: distances We want to write distances between atoms to a file using WRITE TITLES. We expected ?RAXI to be useful for this purpose (after filling the RAXI variable with COOR AXIS), but find that when ?RAXI is put in a WRITE TITLE title line, it is not replaced with a number. Instead, the characters "?RAXI" appear in the file. Likewise, when the command "SET 1 ?RAXI" is issued, the error message "RAXI is not an energy variable" is issued. Is there a simple way to do this? -Dave Busath and Steve Bogusz For all interested in detailed analyses of molecular dynamics trajectories and some aspects of protein structures, there is a graphical program called SQUID which complements the CHARMM analysis facility and makes life and MD much easier to deal with. The reference is J. Molecular Graphics, Vol. 10, (No.4), 247-252 ,1992: Author : T.J.Oldfield He can be contacted at oldfield@uk.ac.york.yorvic for more information * Script file produced by QUANTA * ! Startup script for CHARMm ! banner bomblevel 0 wrnlev 5 prnlev 5 reset open read unit 21 card name $CHM_DATA/MASSES.RTF read rtf unit 21 card close unit 21 open read unit 20 card name "jan.prm" read param unit 20 card close unit 20 open read unit 20 card name "jan.psf" read psf unit 20 card close unit 20 open read unit 20 card name "jan.ic" ic read unit 20 card close unit 20 OPEN READ UNIT 70 CARD NAME "jan.crd" READ COOR UNIT 70 card comp open read unit 41 file name "simul.DCD" trajectory iread 41 set 1 1 label loop traj read coor rms mass incr 1 by 1 if 1 lt 100 goto loop open write unit 30 card name rmslist set 1 1 label start write title unit 30 * ?RMS * incr 1 1 if 1 lt 100 goto start stop ######################################################################## I have just started using CHARMM22 standalone. I have managed to calculate RMS-values from this CHARMM stream file, but how can I get a file with a list/table of these RMS-VALUES with picoseconds/frames? As you can see, I had a bad try with "write title". I'll be grateful for answers. Thanks in advance. ####################################################### # Eldbjoerg Sofie Heimstad # # Protein Crystallography Group # # University Of Tromsoe, IMR # # 9037 Tromsoe, NORWAY phone: +47-83-45706 # # 44737 # # E-mail: eldbjorg@trypsin.chem.uit.no # ####################################################### In the past, I have been more successful writing a variable if I set it first. As in: set 1 ?ENER ... write title ... * The energy is @1. * The listings I have do not show a ?RMS command, but if this works in a print statement (but not the above "set" mechanism) then try a redirect of the standard output unit the way QUANTA does. Before the "write title" command issue the command: outu 30 After appropriate print statements: close unit 30 Any commands between the two statments get printed to unit 30, instead of the standard output. Hope this helps. Thanks to all who responded to our question on how to output a distance between two atoms to a text file using WRITE TITLES. The problem was that a title such as: * @1 @2 ?RAXI @4 would not send the value of RAXI to the title. It complains that RAXI is not an energy variable. One also could not use: SET 6 ?RAXI for the same reasons. I consider this a bug in charmm. Using suggestions by others I tried a number of methods, many which work but do not output the distance in a title with the other values in one line (to make life easier by allowing me to import the values into a spreadsheet). It was suggested to try COOR MIND and use the ?MIND variable. This also cannot be sent strait to the TITLE but one can use SET 6 ?MIND and write @6 to a title. Just one of those little CHARMM idiosyncrasies I guess..... Steve Bogusz and Dave Busath David Busath, I tried writing ?RAXI into a title with several of my CHARMM versions. It works in all, so this problem may be machine or version specific. The SHOW command will list all current substitution variables. This is useful in debugging such a problem. Let us know what version has this problem. Thanks, Bernie Brooks Hi, I am interested in simulations of a given polymer in oil. any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated. Could this be d greatly appreciated. Should I use Langevian ? if so what frictional coeff. is advisable. I have trieve e tried using Toluene but the simulations take a long time!. Thanking you in advance --Mani-- my email add. is psubram@texaco.com I am interested in studying polymer conformations in oil. I have done some studies using Toluene as a solvent but the runs take a long time. Is there some simpler way to incorporate the effect of oil ?. We have CHARMM running on a IBM600/550. Can Langevian Dynamics be used here ?. Thanking you in advance --Mani-- my email add. is psubram@texaco.com Hello - Sorry if this subject has been thrashed to death but I am new to this mail-exploder. Does anyone have a list of refs to studies on the effects/suitability of different non-bonded options used within such MM packages as charmm amber MM2 etc. Nonbonded cutoffs, dielectric constant etc. Thanks Nick Tomkinson Hello All, Does anyone out there have any references that involve CHARMM and metals. Thank You. BT brian@opus.chem.psu.edu Nick, I think the "definative" paper on non-bonded cutoffs, at least as far as CHARMm is concerned is: Loncharich and Brooks, Proteins: Str., Func., and Genetics, 6:32-45 (1989). I recall there being an earlier paper treating a similar thing with AMBER. I can't remeber the reference, but it may be referred to in the above papar. Does anyone else have a "favourite" NBONDS setup ? I hope this is of use.... Tim. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | _____ ____ || SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals Ltd | | / ___\\\\ _ \ || Brockham Park | | | |___ \\|_| | || Tim Mitchell (Comp. Chem.) Betchworth | | \____ \ | _ < || Phone (0)737 36 4535 Surrey | | ____| | | |_| | || Fax. (0)737 36 4539 RH3 7AJ | | \_____/ |____/ || mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com U.K. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roux, B & Karplus, M. 1991. Ion transport in a model gramicidin channel. Structure and thermodynamics. Biophysical Journal 59:961-981. Roux, B & Karplus, M. 1991. Ion transport in a model gramicidin channel. Dynamics and mobility. J. Phys. Chem. 95:4856-4868. ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Hello All, Does anyone out there have any references that involve CHARMM and metals. Thank You. BT brian@opus.chem.psu.edu Roux, B & Karplus, M. 1991. Ion transport in a model gramicidin channel. Structure and thermodynamics. Biophysical Journal 59:961-981. Roux, B & Karplus, M. 1991. Ion transport in a model gramicidin channel. Dynamics and mobility. J. Phys. Chem. 95:4856-4868. ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Hello All, Does anyone out there have any references that involve CHARMM and metals. Thank You. BT brian@opus.chem.psu.edu From chandra@yorvic.york.ac.uk Fri Jan 29 12:56:40 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA13379; Fri, 29 Jan 93 12:56:40 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA23351; Fri, 29 Jan 93 12:54:16 EST Via: uk.ac.york.yorvic; Fri, 29 Jan 1993 17:04:22 +0000 From: Chandra Verma Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 17:03:19 GMT Message-Id: <21122.9301291703@yorvic.york.ac.uk> To: charmm-bbs <@harvard:charmm-bbs@emperor> Subject: Does anyone calculate correlation functions from time series and fit exponentials to estimate relaxation times. I would be grateful for some tools. thanx From BROWNE@TCB2.UCSB.EDU Fri Jan 29 14:01:10 1993 Received: from tcb2.ucsb.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA13494; Fri, 29 Jan 93 14:01:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 10:59:22 -0800 (PST) From: BROWNE@TCB2.UCSB.EDU (Kenneth A. Browne) Message-Id: <930129105922.21c0011e@TCB2.UCSB.EDU> Subject: CHARMm stack space To: charmm-bbs X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu" To the gurus, users, and persons who just know more about CHARMm than I do, I am (attempting) to run power CHARMm standalone on and SGI 4D/ 340GTX. I have approximately 13000 atoms (mostly water molecules) in a dynamics simulation of DNA. After the water file has been read in and the overlapping water molecules deleted, the CHARMm script terminates due to a ***** LEVEL -4 WARNING FROM ***** ***** Stack overflow error. Stack limit on the SGI is currently set as unlimited (524288) as is data limit. How do I increase my stack size in CHARMm? I know CHARMm should be able to handle upto 30000 atoms. Thanks. Kenneth A Browne From ryszard@MSI.COM Fri Jan 29 14:24:45 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA13613; Fri, 29 Jan 93 14:24:45 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA26243; Fri, 29 Jan 93 14:22:32 EST Received: from hogan.MSI.COM ([192.190.4.245]) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24493; Fri, 29 Jan 93 14:19:59 EST Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14926; Fri, 29 Jan 1993 14:22:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 14:22:01 -0500 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9301291922.AA14926@hogan.MSI.COM> To: BROWNE@TCB2.UCSB.EDU, charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Re: CHARMm stack space Cc: ryszard@MSI.COM Error message "Stack overflow" refers to the internal charmm static array STACK. At the moment it is impossible to increase it size. More precisely it is CSTACK (i.e. character STACK) since error message comes from function ALLCHR. In short it looks like a bug. Please send bug report (including self-contained charmm script to reproduce the problem) to MSI. Ryszard Czerminski, MSI From brbrooks@helix.nih.gov Fri Jan 29 15:24:15 1993 Received: from helix.nih.gov by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA13648; Fri, 29 Jan 93 15:24:15 -0500 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA01278; Fri, 29 Jan 93 15:22:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 15:22:04 -0500 From: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov (Bernie Brooks) Message-Id: <9301292022.AA01278@helix.nih.gov> To: charmm-bbs Nick, In going beyond the work in Loncharich and Brooks, Proteins: Str., Func., and Genetics, 6:32-45 (1989). We have been evaluating several newer (and older) methods and we have a second manuscript that is nearly ready for publication. To summarize this work in terms of a recommendation, I propose the following cutoffs: RECOMMENDED: Presented here is a suggested list of options. Where specifications are missing, substitute the defaults (see NBONDS.DOC for details): For atom based cutoffs: NBONDS ATOM FSHIFT CDIE VDW VSHIFT - CUTNB 14.0 CTOFNB 12.0 CTONNB 8.0 EPS 1.0 INBFRQ -1 or (perhaps better for longer cutoff distances, but a bit more expensive) NBONDS ATOM FSWITCH CDIE VDW VSHIFT - CUTNB 14.0 CTOFNB 12.0 CTONNB 8.0 EPS 1.0 INBFRQ -1 For group based cutoffs (but doesn't vectorize well): NBONDS GROUP FSWITCH CDIE VDW VSWITCH - CUTNB 14.0 CTOFNB 12.0 CTONNB 11.0 EPS 1.0 INBFRQ -1 The GROUP FSWITCH is better than GROUP SWITCH, but not as good as the atom based methods (except for pure water). Also, cutting from 8-12 Angstroms does not do as well as 11-12 for GROUP FSWITCH. Bernie Brooks END --> chmbbs-jan93.log <--- BEGIN --> chmbbs-feb93.log <--- From tennantm1%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com Tue Feb 2 10:11:31 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA01482; Tue, 2 Feb 93 10:11:31 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA17793; Tue, 2 Feb 93 10:09:18 EST Received: from FRGEN.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by smithkline.com (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA15289; Tue, 2 Feb 93 10:01:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 93 10:01:09 -0500 Message-Id: <9302021501.AA15289@smithkline.com> From: tennantm1%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com (Mike Tennant. Harlow x3328) To: "charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu"%INET.dnet@smithkline.com Cc: TENNANTM1@smithkline.com Subject: Velocity Autocorrelation Functions Hi, Does anybody have a script which calculates velocity autocorrelation functions, particulary diffusion coefficients. I ask this because I can't get the solanal routines to work (no examples in the documentation!!). Mike Tennant, Smithkline Beecham, Harlow, Essex. UK. Message 12: From tennant@hau410 Wed Feb 3 04:24:15 1993 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 93 09:22:02 GMT From: tennant@hau410.smithkline.com (Mike Tennant) To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Velocity Autocorrelation Functions Hi, has anybody managed to get the solanal function in CHARMm to work. I'm trying to calculate diffusion coefficients/velocity autocorrelation functions using the prog, but the examples are rather limited (ie none!). I would appreciate it if somebody could come to my rescue! Mike Tennant ******************************************************************************** Mike Tennant, Smithkline Beecham, Coldharbour Road, Harlow, Essex. UK Email: tennantm1@phvax.smithkline.com ******************************************************************************** From scsupham@reading.ac.uk Fri Feb 5 10:56:18 1993 Received: from sussdirt.rdg.ac.uk by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA03602; Fri, 5 Feb 93 10:56:18 -0500 Received: from reading.ac.uk by susssys1.reading.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <19644-0@susssys1.reading.ac.uk>; Fri, 5 Feb 1993 14:36:11 +0000 From: scsupham@reading.ac.uk Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 14:35:53 GMT Message-Id: <4686.9302051435@scsscsc3> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Bacgrounding Charmm processes Cc: scsupham@reading.ac.uk Content-Type: X-sun-attachment ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: text X-Sun-Data-Description: text X-Sun-Data-Name: text X-Sun-Content-Lines: 11 Dear charmm users, When Running charmm script files in background, it would be desirable to direct the output to a null file, which would avoid the problem of directing output to a text window and therefore not being able to logout of the machine. How can this be accomplished please ? john upham John Upham, Dept. of Chemistry, University of Reading, Berks., RG6 2AD, UK. Email: scsupham%susssys1.rdg.ac.uk@uk.ac (BITnet), scsupham@rdg.susssys1 (Janet) Voice: +44 734 875123 x7441 (day), Fax: +44 734 311610 ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: default X-Sun-Data-Description: default X-Sun-Data-Name: .signature X-Sun-Content-Lines: 3 John Upham, Dept. of Chemistry, University of Reading, Berks., RG6 2AD, UK. Email: scsupham%susssys1.rdg.ac.uk@uk.ac (BITnet), scsupham@rdg.susssys1 (Janet) Voice: +44 734 875123 x7441 (day), Fax: +44 734 311610 From ryszard@MSI.COM Fri Feb 5 11:21:34 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA03617; Fri, 5 Feb 93 11:21:34 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA06684; Fri, 5 Feb 93 11:19:04 EST Received: from hogan.MSI.COM ([192.190.4.245]) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00516; Fri, 5 Feb 93 11:16:12 EST Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14248; Fri, 5 Feb 1993 11:18:19 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 11:18:19 -0500 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9302051618.AA14248@hogan.MSI.COM> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, scsupham@reading.ac.uk Subject: Re: Bacgrounding Charmm processes charmm < input > & /dev/null & From bobf@MSI.COM Fri Feb 5 11:27:36 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA03623; Fri, 5 Feb 93 11:27:36 -0500 Received: from support (support.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00535; Fri, 5 Feb 93 11:22:49 EST Received: by support (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA01064; Fri, 5 Feb 93 11:24:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 11:24:52 -0500 From: bobf@MSI.COM Message-Id: <9302051624.AA01064@support> Organization: Molecular Simulations Inc. Phone: (617) 229-9800 ext. 202 To: charmm-bbs Subject: Re: backgrounding CHARMm processes On Feb 5, John Upham wrote: > Subject: Bacgrounding Charmm processes > ---------- > X-Sun-Data-Type: text > X-Sun-Data-Description: text > X-Sun-Data-Name: text > X-Sun-Content-Lines: 11 > > Dear charmm users, > When Running charmm script files in background, it would be > desirable to direct the output to a null file, which would avoid the > problem of directing output to a text window and therefore not being able > to logout of the machine. How can this be accomplished please ? > > john upham >-- End of excerpt from scsupham@reading.ac.uk You don't specify the hardware platform you're using, so it's difficult to answer the question. If it's a UNIX system, though, you ought to be able to nohup /full/path/to/charmm22exe < input.script >& /dev/null & If you actually want to keep the log, that's easier (and this should work on any platform): Just put open write card unit 7 name CHARMM.LOG outu 7 near the beginning of the script. Regards, Bob Funchess -- Dr. Robert B. Funchess Molecular Simulations Inc. Technical Support Scientist 16 New England Executive Park bobf@msi.com Burlington, MA 01803-5297 (617) 229-9800 x202 FAX (617) 229-9899 From @surrey.ac.uk,@central.surrey.ac.uk:chs1nt@surrey.ac.uk Fri Feb 5 14:31:55 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA03820; Fri, 5 Feb 93 14:31:55 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA00383; Fri, 5 Feb 93 14:29:17 EST Via: uk.ac.surrey; Fri, 5 Feb 1993 16:40:18 +0000 Via: central.surrey.ac.uk; Fri, 5 Feb 93 16:37:40 GMT Received: by central.surrey.ac.uk (16.6/16.2) id AA05467; Fri, 5 Feb 93 16:37:39 GMT From: Dr Nicholas P Tomkinson Message-Id: <9302051637.AA05467@central.surrey.ac.uk> Subject: background charmm To: charmm-bbs <@harvard:charmm-bbs@emperor> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 16:37:39 GMT Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] Dear John, When I run charmm in background I use the following command line charmm < file.inp > waste & this redirects the output to a file called waste. You can use /dev/null instead which is just a wastebasket but sometimes there are informative errors that dont appear in the LOG file but in the waste file. Nick Tomkinson From chandra@yorvic.york.ac.uk Fri Feb 5 15:01:49 1993 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA03836; Fri, 5 Feb 93 15:01:49 -0500 Via: uk.ac.york.yorvic; Fri, 5 Feb 1993 17:01:07 +0000 From: Chandra Verma Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 16:18:37 GMT Message-Id: <11441.9302051618@yorvic.york.ac.uk> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Mike Hi Mike You do not necessarily have to use the vel acf from solanal to calculate transport coefficient D. You can can estimate it using Einstein relation D = 1/6 { slope of the 2 with respect to time plot} where r(t) is the molecule position - you do not need solanal routines but can calculate r(t) using correl "name" atom r etc (ref Alan & Tiddlseley - pg 60) From KLIMKOWSKI_V_JOE@INET.D48.LILLY.COM Mon Feb 8 09:30:21 1993 Received: from lilly.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA00636; Mon, 8 Feb 93 09:30:21 -0500 Received: from external_mail_daemon by INET.D48.LILLY.COM (PMDF #2311 ) id <01GUH2X6554G8X1IRL@INET.D48.LILLY.COM>; Mon, 8 Feb 1993 09:27:39 EST Received: from DECNET-MAIL (RX80796@MCVAX0) by INET.D48.LILLY.COM (PMDF #2311 ) id <01GUH2138EZ48WZHPA@INET.D48.LILLY.COM>; Mon, 8 Feb 1993 09:27:31 EST Date: 08 Feb 1993 09:27:31 -0500 (EST) From: Joe Klimkowski Subject: Redirection of charmm output To: charmm-bbs Message-Id: <01GUH2138OMA8WZHPA@INET.D48.LILLY.COM> X-Vms-To: IN::"charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu" X-Vms-Cc: ME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Regarding redirecting the output from a background CHARMM job, rather than sending the whole output to /dev/null I find it more useful to redirect only extensive sections that may not be of any use. For instance during heating stage of dynamics, extensive solvation of an active site (several reapplications to insure the correct density), solvation of each residue of a protein, or when collecting coordinate sets during dynamics using a very small nsavc (i.e. 1 - 10, can result in a huge logfile). Alternatively, one can also redirect the output to other files. This may be useful if you are processing several different conformations (or even different systems) during the same run. Below is a input file that demonstrates these ideas: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * test Output redirection * Polyalanine, 20 mer * Selectively redirect sections of the output to null unit * Alternatively redirect sections of the output to other files * ! Define default output unit and file open write card unit 7 name "LFILE.LOG" outu 7 ! Redisplay banner and title for insertion into output file banner title * test Output redirection * Polyalanine, 20 mer * Selectively redirect sections of the output to null unit * Alternatively redirect sections of the output to other files * bomblev -2 wrnlev 0 prnlev 5 ! define default and alternate logfile names to reinsert later set 1 LFILE set 2 LFILE2 ! read rtf and parameter files open read file unit 21 name "$CHM_DATA/AMINO.BIN" read rtf file unit 21 close unit 21 open read file unit 21 name "$CHM_DATA/PARM.BIN" read param file unit 21 close unit 21 ! read sequence read sequ card * poly ala sequence * 20 ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ala ! create the psf and ic table gene pala setup warn ! construct coordinates ic param ic seed 2 n 2 ca 2 c ic build ! get initial energy ener ! Good idea to insert title (or comments) to remind yourself what ! parts of output are being redirected and to where title * Polyalanine, 20 mer * 10 steps sd mini * logfile redirected to null unit * will reappend to current log file after minimization * ! HERE IS THE REDIRECTION TO THE NULL UNIT close unit 7 open write card unit 7 name "/dev/null" ! 10 steps SD mini sd nstep 10 nprint 1 ! close null unit and reappend to default logfile close unit 7 open append card unit 7 name "@1.LOG" ! Evaluate energy of minimized structure. ener ! Redirect output to different file title * Polyalaine, 20 mer * Second minimization, 10 steps further sd minimization * logfile redirected to alternate file * will reappend to current log file after second minimization * ! HERE IS THE REDIRECTION TO alternate file close unit 7 open write card unit 7 name "@2.LOG" ! 10 steps further SD mini sd nstep 10 nprint 1 ! close alternate file and reappend to default logfile close unit 7 open append card unit 7 name "@1.LOG" ! Evaluate energy of final minimized structure. ener stop -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joe K klimkowski_v_joe@lilly.com V. J. Klimkowski Eli Lilly and Company Indianapolis, IN 46285 From: KLIMKOWSKI V JOE (MCVAX0::RX80796) To: VMS MAIL ADDRESSEE (IN::"charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu") cc: KLIMKOWSKI V JOE (MCVAX0::RX80796) From brian@opus.chem.psu.edu Tue Feb 9 13:12:49 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA02990; Tue, 9 Feb 93 13:12:49 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA21717; Tue, 9 Feb 93 13:10:34 EST Received: by opus.chem.psu.edu (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/4.03) id AA17177; Tue, 9 Feb 93 13:06:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 93 13:06:45 -0500 From: brian@opus.chem.psu.edu (Brian J. Toleno) Message-Id: <9302091806.AA17177@opus.chem.psu.edu> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Parameter files and Dictionaries I am having problems figuring out exactly how to create a parmeter file and/or a dictonary file so I can use metals like Ti, V, Cr, etc. in a non-organic setting. Any suggestions, hints, etc would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Brian Toleno brian@opus.chem.psu.edu From becky@MSI.COM Wed Feb 10 10:58:31 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA03869; Wed, 10 Feb 93 10:58:31 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA10434; Wed, 10 Feb 93 10:56:11 EST Received: from franz.MSI.COM ([192.190.4.243]) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08817; Wed, 10 Feb 93 10:53:25 EST Received: by franz.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20981; Wed, 10 Feb 1993 10:55:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 10:55:42 -0500 From: becky@MSI.COM (Becky Rone X 276) Message-Id: <9302101555.AA20981@franz.MSI.COM> To: brian@opus.chem.psu.edu, charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Re: Parameter files and Dictionaries If you need a QUANTA dictionary file for your molecules to run in CHARMm, I have an awk script which will make *.dic files from RTFs. In addition, QUANTA 3.3 has a limited set of CHARMm parameters for these metals. From david@einstein.ups.circe.fr Wed Feb 10 11:31:49 1993 Received: from ciripa.circe.fr by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04056; Wed, 10 Feb 93 11:31:49 -0500 Received: from einstein.ups.circe.fr by ciripa.circe.fr with SMTP id AA25228 (5.65c+/IDA-1.4.4 for <@ciripa.circe.fr:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu>); Wed, 10 Feb 1993 17:29:03 +0100 Received: by einstein.ups.circe.fr (911016.SGI/911001.SGI) for @ciripa.circe.fr:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA11762; Thu, 11 Feb 93 00:11:29 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Feb 93 00:11:29 GMT From: david@einstein.ups.circe.fr (perahia) Message-Id: <9302110011.AA11762@einstein.ups.circe.fr> To: charmm-bbs Subject: plt2 program Does anyone have the plt2 plotting program that can be run on sgi workstations. Thanks. David PERAHIA e-mail: david@einstein.ups.circe.fr Lab. d'Enzymologie Physico-Chimique et Moleculaire Universite Paris-Sud, Bat 430 91405 Orsay, FRANCE From dchin Wed Feb 10 12:18:18 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04112; Wed, 10 Feb 93 12:18:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 93 12:18:18 -0500 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9302101718.AA04112@emperor.harvard.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Torsions around 180 Charmm uses a 0 to 180 and 0 to -180 scale for angles. When torsions fluctuate about 180, the average value is not representative of the true (say the average is 180 deg.) value. Consequently calulations in charmm that involve this average (ie correlation functions of dihedral fluctuations) are off. Question: If there a way to set the angle scale to 0-to-360? or any other work-arounds in charmm (mainly for use in CORREL)? regards, Donovan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Donovan Chin Ph.d Phone: 617.496.6820 Fax: 617.495.9857 Harvard University e-mail dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry 12 Oxford St. Cambridge, MA 02138, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From Leif.Laaksonen@csc.fi Thu Feb 11 02:54:48 1993 Received: from convex.csc.fi by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04699; Thu, 11 Feb 93 02:54:48 -0500 Received: from [128.214.46.163] (laaksone.csc.fi) by csc.fi with SMTP id AA07173 (5.65c8+/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 11 Feb 1993 09:52:32 +0200 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1993 09:52:32 +0200 Message-Id: <199302110752.AA07173@csc.fi> To: amber@cgl.ucsf.edu, charmm-bbs, gromos@igc.ethz.ch, chemistry@ccl.net From: Leif.Laaksonen@csc.fi Subject: SCARECROW Computing Presents SCARECROW is a program for the analysis of MD trajectories. It has been published in the J. Mol. Graph. 10 (1992) 33. In fact the program is much more than just a MD analysis package. The package also contains: (1) The ICON8 extended Huckel program modified to eat 1000 atoms. There is an interface from SCARECROW to ICON8. The ICON8 program can generate the input to an electrostatic potential program (VSS). (2) The electrostatic potentiall program VSS. This is a c-code version of the old VSS program. The out put from VSS can be displayed with SCARECROW (3) A probe surface program to generate Connolly type of surfaces. (4) A program to generate orbitals or electron density data from orbitals generated with ICON8. SCARECROW is now able to read several different types of coordinate files like the CHARMM, INSIGHT, PDB and several other types of files. Trajectory analysis can be done for CHARMM, DISCOVER, YASP, MUMOD, GROMOS, and AMBER binary trajectories, and very soon also for HyperChem. Some of the goodies are only available for CHARMM users. New features in SCARECROW are the possibility to calculate radial distribution functions, power spectrum for main component analysis of time series and a possibility to calculate diffusion coefficients and much more. There is a very crude 2D display facility but the data can always be exported to your favourite plotting package. SCARECROW has a graphics interface and runs now only on Silicon Graphics Machines. On SGI machines it's also possible to run SCARECROW without graphics. I don't have any plans to port the stuff to other platforms, sorry. If you are interested to get more information about SCARECROW please feel free to get in touch. I have so far been distributing the program for free, if somebody makes money out of it I want to get my share. Cheers, -leif laaksonen --------------------------------------------------------- Leif.Laaksonen@csc.fi Center for Scientific Computing P.O. Box 405 FIN-02101 Espoo FINLAND Phone: 358 0 4572378 Telefax: 358 0 4572302 Voice Mail: 358 486257407 "In every job to be done there is an element of fun" Mary Poppins --------------------------------------------------------- From arne@mango.mef.ki.se Mon Feb 15 03:50:58 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA00964; Mon, 15 Feb 93 03:50:58 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA11563; Mon, 15 Feb 93 03:48:36 EST Received: by mango.mef.ki.se (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/4.03) id AA18268; Mon, 15 Feb 93 09:49:09 GMT From: arne@mango.mef.ki.se (Arne Elofsson) Message-Id: <9302150949.AA18268@mango.mef.ki.se> To: david@einstein.ups.circe.fr (perahia) Cc: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, arne@mango.mef.ki.se Subject: Re: plt2 program In-Reply-To: (Your message of Thu, 11 Feb 93 00:11:29 GMT.) <9302110011.AA11762@einstein.ups.circe.fr> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 93 09:49:09 +0000 I know that it exists. I think I can find it but I do not knoe if I am allowed to give it away Please contact : c Copyright 1984 - David J. States c National Magnet Laboratory, MIT c Cambridge, MA 02139 SOrry I do not have an email adress. arne From jpoole@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu Wed Feb 17 16:43:58 1993 Received: from oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA02210; Wed, 17 Feb 93 16:43:58 -0500 Received: by oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (4.1/3.910310) id AA23843; Wed, 17 Feb 93 16:41:33 EST Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 16:41:33 EST From: James Poole Message-Id: <9302172141.AA23843@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Using Partial Coordinates Hello Fellow Computational Chemistry Mailing List Readers, I have a small problem setting up a protein structure in CHARMM that someone here may know the answer. I am working on a model of a coiled-coil protein. I have the alpha helices defined as I need them but I am having difficulty getting the left-handed super-coiling of the two alpha helices. The last approach that I have used seems to be the most reasonable method for getting the backbone dihedrals defined to give the required coiled-coil. This approach is to use the C-alpha coordinates for tropomyosin from the Brookhaven PDB as a template. What I attempted was to read in the sequence of my protein into CHARMM and set up the internal coordinates from the parameter files like normal. The next step was to read in the coordinates of the Tm C-alphas from a file modified to have the correct residue names and numbers and then build the coordinates, energy minimize with constraints, and dock the two helices. The snag is that the read-in coordinates are overwritten when the remaining coordinates are build (unexpected based on the manuals). What I am interested in knowing is has anyone used partial defined coordinates and then built the remaining ones succesfully and if so will you share your wisdom. I have also sent this to the CHARMM mail-exploder and have a call into MSI, but this seems to be the best resource for practical experience. Thanks in advance, Jim Poole, (614) 593-1744 voice Ohio University, (614) 593-llll fax Dept. of Chemistry jim@quanta.phy.ohiou.edu or jpoole@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu ---- begin sample charmm code ---- > > start of charmm code omitted > > GENE HLXA SETU > > IC PARA > OPEN READ CARD UNIT 14 NAME INPUT.CRD > READ COOR CARD UNIT 14 > CLOSE UNIT 14 > IC BUILD > > remainder of code omitted > From bobf@MSI.COM Wed Feb 17 17:28:52 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA02234; Wed, 17 Feb 93 17:28:52 -0500 Received: from support (support.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20010; Wed, 17 Feb 93 17:23:38 EST Received: by support (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA00659; Wed, 17 Feb 93 17:25:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 17:25:42 -0500 From: bobf@MSI.COM Message-Id: <9302172225.AA00659@support> Organization: Molecular Simulations Inc. Phone: (617) 229-9800 ext. 202 To: jim@quanta.phy.ohiou.edu, charmm-bbs Subject: setting up coordinates from Calpha positions Here's a script that does this for the 1CBP protein; it should be fairly easy to modify it for other PDB files. The first residue is 1CBP is numbered "11" in the file, so the 11's in the script should be changed to be appropriate for the pdb file you're trying to read in. Bob Funchess ------cut here ------- * Script file produced by QUANTA * ! Startup script for CHARMm ! UPPER ! case for files to write banner bomblevel -2 wrnlev 0 prnlev 5 open read file unit 21 name "$CHM_DATA/AMINO.BIN" read rtf file unit 21 close unit 21 open read file unit 21 name "$CHM_DATA/PARM.BIN" read param file unit 21 close unit 21 DELE ATOM SELECT ALL END open read unit 21 card name "1cbp.pdb" read sequ pdb unit 21 close unit 21 generate 1CBP setup open read unit 21 card name "1cbp.pdb" read coor pdb unit 21 close unit 21 coor orie norotate sele atom 1CBP 11 CA end coor tran xdir -1 dist 1.5 sele all end coor set xdir 1 dist 0 sele atom 1CBP 11 N end coor set xdir 1 dist 0 sele atom 1CBP 11 C end coor tran xdir 1 ydir 2 dist 2.5 sele atom 1CBP 11 C end coor init sele .not. - (atom 1CBP 11 N .or. atom 1CBP 11 C .or. atom 1CBP * CA) end ic param ic build hbuild open write unit 22 card name "1cbp.CRD" coor write card unit 22 * Title * close unit 22 STOP -- Dr. Robert B. Funchess Molecular Simulations Inc. Technical Support Scientist 16 New England Executive Park bobf@msi.com Burlington, MA 01803-5297 (617) 229-9800 x202 FAX (617) 229-9899 From brian@opus.chem.psu.edu Thu Feb 25 15:04:20 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA10480; Thu, 25 Feb 93 15:04:20 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for CHARMM-BBS@emperor) id AA09966; Thu, 25 Feb 93 15:01:39 EST Received: by opus.chem.psu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA11867; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 15:03:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 15:03:07 -0500 From: brian@opus.chem.psu.edu (Brian J. Toleno) Message-Id: <9302252003.AA11867@opus.chem.psu.edu> To: CHARMM-BBS%emperor@harvard I was wondering if anyone out there was running QUANTA 3.2.3 CHARMm 21.3 on the new AIX version (3.3 ?). The reason I am asking is that since we updated we can no longer run quanta we get the error message: Could not load program /usr/local/quanta/exec/quanta.exe Could not load library libgl.a[shr.o] Error was: No such file or directory Has anyone seen this error before or have any ideas. We have restored all the directories exactly as they were previously, the only thing that has been changed is the operating system. Thanks BT From bobf@MSI.COM Thu Feb 25 15:48:24 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA10500; Thu, 25 Feb 93 15:48:24 -0500 Received: from support (support.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02715; Thu, 25 Feb 93 15:42:57 EST Received: by support (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA02035; Thu, 25 Feb 93 15:44:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 93 15:44:45 -0500 From: bobf@MSI.COM Message-Id: <9302252044.AA02035@support> Organization: Molecular Simulations Inc. Phone: (617) 229-9800 ext. 202 To: charmm-bbs Subject: Re: Brian J. Toleno's question For those members of the CHARMm community who may be using Quanta and seeing problems similar to this, the most likely answer is that the GL was not loaded for some reason or other. GL is the Graphics Library, and unless it's present on the system many of the Quanta graphics calls will fail. Check the software configuration and make sure that all the necessary graphics libraries are in fact on the system. Bob Funchess -- Dr. Robert B. Funchess Molecular Simulations Inc. Technical Support Scientist 16 New England Executive Park bobf@msi.com Burlington, MA 01803-5297 (617) 229-9800 x202 FAX (617) 229-9899 From W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl Mon Mar 1 11:51:47 1993 Received: from utct.ct.utwente.nl by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA13588; Mon, 1 Mar 93 11:51:47 -0500 Received: from utctu2 (utctu2.ct.utwente.nl) by ct.utwente.nl with SMTP id AA06589 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Mon, 1 Mar 1993 17:48:20 +0100 Received: by utctu2 (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @utct.ct.utwente.nl:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA07962; Mon, 1 Mar 93 17:51:08 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 17:51:08 GMT From: W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl (Willem Paul van Hoorn) Message-Id: <9303011751.AA07962@utctu2> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Enter CHARMm Newsgroup Dear Sir/Madam, Can you enter to the CHARMm newsgroup? Thanks, W.P. van Hoorn Organic Chemistry Department University of Twente P.O. Box 217 7500 AE Esnschede The Netherlands wphoorn@ct.utwente.nl END --> chmbbs-feb93.log <--- BEGIN --> chmbbs-mar93.log <--- From eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Wed Mar 3 05:25:35 1993 Received: from benoni.Uit.No by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA15299; Wed, 3 Mar 93 05:25:35 -0500 Received: from benoni by ppenoni.uit.no with SMTP (PP) id <23454-0@ppenoni.uit.no>; Wed, 3 Mar 1993 11:07:52 +0000 Received: from trypsin.Chem.Uit.No by benoni.uit.no (5.65+IDA/Babel-1.15/ABaa-1.2/Ultrix) id AAbenoni23450; Wed, 3 Mar 1993 11:07:50 +0100 Received: by trypsin.chem.uit.no (911016.SGI/ABaa-2.0mini) id AA08948; Wed, 3 Mar 93 10:10:41 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 10:10:41 GMT From: eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Message-Id: <9303031010.AA08948@trypsin.chem.uit.no> To: charmm-bbs Subject: COOR DYNA COOR DYNA calculates average coordinates and isotropic fluctuations from a trajectory file. Can someone tell me if there exist an equation for the calculation of isotropic fluctuation, and is it designated as Angstrom or the square of Angstrom? What is the relation of this value to X-ray isotropic B-value -- multiply with 26 !? ........... Thanks in advance, Elle ####################################################### # Eldbjoerg Sofie Heimstad # # Protein Crystallography Group # # University Of Tromsoe, IMR # # 9037 Tromsoe, NORWAY phone: +47-83-45706 # # 44737 # # fax : +47-83-44765 # # E-mail: eldbjorg@trypsin.chem.uit.no # ####################################################### From kuczera@tedybr.chem.ukans.edu Wed Mar 3 10:29:21 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA15397; Wed, 3 Mar 93 10:29:21 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA08328; Wed, 3 Mar 93 10:26:44 EST Received: by tedybr.chem.ukans.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA18477; Wed, 3 Mar 1993 09:24:29 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 09:24:29 -0600 From: kuczera@tedybr.chem.ukans.edu Message-Id: <9303031524.AA18477@tedybr.chem.ukans.edu> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Hi, The values stored in the WMAIN array (fourth column of numbers in the coordinate file) are root mean square position fluctuations for each atom i: (rms fluct)i = SQRT() dRi**2 = (xi - )**2 + (yi - )**2 + (zi - )**2 where xi,yi,zi are cartesian coordinates of atom i, x - , ...etc. are the displacements from the average positions, <...> denotes averaging over the trajectory The units of x,y,z and the rms fluctuations are thus A. see SUBROUTINE AVECOR in module dynanal.src for details. Crystallographic isotropic B factors are proportional to the mean square position fluctuations, B = 8*(pi**2)*<(x - )**2> = 8*(pi**2)*/3 = 26.3* the last equation, as some textbooks say, can be used to estimate pi ... Krzysztof Kuczera Department of Chemistry University of Kansas 2010 Malott Hall Lawrence, KS 66045 tel: (913) 864-5060 (my office) or 864-4670 (Chemistry office) fax: (913) 864-5396 e-mail: kuczera@tedybr.chem.ukans.edu chant: rock-chalk-jayhawk warning: careful with that last sentence From kuczera@tedybr.chem.ukans.edu Wed Mar 3 10:47:19 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA15410; Wed, 3 Mar 93 10:47:19 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA08628; Wed, 3 Mar 93 10:44:42 EST Received: by tedybr.chem.ukans.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA16945; Wed, 3 Mar 1993 09:42:21 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 09:42:21 -0600 From: kuczera@tedybr.chem.ukans.edu Message-Id: <9303031542.AA16945@tedybr.chem.ukans.edu> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Hi, Here is some information on: Coordinate fluctutations from COOR DYNA The values stored in the WMAIN array (fourth column of numbers in the coordinate file) are root mean square position fluctuations for each atom i: (rms fluct)i = SQRT() dRi**2 = (xi - )**2 + (yi - )**2 + (zi - )**2 where xi,yi,zi are cartesian coordinates of atom i, x - , ...etc. are the displacements from the average positions, <...> denotes averaging over the trajectory The units of x,y,z and the rms fluctuations are thus A. see SUBROUTINE AVECOR in module dynanal.src for details. Crystallographic isotropic B factors are proportional to the mean square position fluctuations, B = 8*(pi**2)*<(x - )**2> = 8*(pi**2)*/3 = 26.3* the last equation, as some textbooks say, can be used to estimate pi ... Krzysztof Kuczera Department of Chemistry University of Kansas 2010 Malott Hall Lawrence, KS 66045 tel: (913) 864-5060 (my office) or 864-4670 (Chemistry office) fax: (913) 864-5396 e-mail: kuczera@tedybr.chem.ukans.edu chant: rock-chalk-jayhawk warning: careful with that last sentence From @surrey.ac.uk,@central.surrey.ac.uk:chs1nt@surrey.ac.uk Wed Mar 3 13:47:57 1993 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA15527; Wed, 3 Mar 93 13:47:57 -0500 Via: uk.ac.surrey; Wed, 3 Mar 1993 14:21:09 +0000 Via: central.surrey.ac.uk; Wed, 3 Mar 93 14:20:30 GMT Received: by central.surrey.ac.uk (16.6/16.2) id AA23190; Wed, 3 Mar 93 14:20:29 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 14:20:29 GMT From: Dr Nicholas P Tomkinson Message-Id: <9303031420.AA23190@central.surrey.ac.uk> Apparently-To: charmm-bbs Does anyone know of a simple (free) script for grgenerating an RTF files from a structure without having to use QUANTA? Similarly, does anyone have a script/scripts for converting betwwen files for AMBER/CHARMMM/DISCOVER? Ceers Nick Tomkinson From EDBRIDGES@MERLIN.NLU.EDU Wed Mar 3 15:23:22 1993 Received: from MERLIN.NLU.EDU by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA15707; Wed, 3 Mar 93 15:23:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 14:24:10 -0600 (CST) From: EDBRIDGES@MERLIN.NLU.EDU (Steve Bridges, Health and Human Performance) Message-Id: <930303142410.5bb2@MERLIN.NLU.EDU> Subject: unsubscribe To: charmm-bbs X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu" Thank you for removing me from your BBS. FSB From eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Wed Mar 3 15:26:07 1993 Received: from benoni.Uit.No by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA15722; Wed, 3 Mar 93 15:26:07 -0500 Received: from benoni by ppenoni.uit.no with SMTP (PP) id <27373-0@ppenoni.uit.no>; Wed, 3 Mar 1993 21:23:24 +0000 Received: from trypsin.Chem.Uit.No by benoni.uit.no (5.65+IDA/Babel-1.15/ABaa-1.2/Ultrix) id AAbenoni27369; Wed, 3 Mar 1993 21:23:22 +0100 Received: by trypsin.chem.uit.no (911016.SGI/ABaa-2.0mini) id AA09492; Wed, 3 Mar 93 20:26:16 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 20:26:16 GMT From: eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Message-Id: <9303032026.AA09492@trypsin.chem.uit.no> To: charmm-bbs Subject: COOR DYNA and ISOTROPIC B-factor Thanks to Kuczera! Excellent answer to my question. -elle ####################################################### # Eldbjoerg Sofie Heimstad # # Protein Crystallography Group # # University Of Tromsoe, IMR # # 9037 Tromsoe, NORWAY phone: +47-83-45706 # # 44737 # # fax : +47-83-44765 # # E-mail: eldbjorg@trypsin.chem.uit.no # ####################################################### From tennant@hau410.uk.smithkline.com Thu Mar 4 05:48:48 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16330; Thu, 4 Mar 93 05:48:48 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA27925; Thu, 4 Mar 93 05:46:06 EST Received: by hau410.uk.smithkline.com (921113.SGI.UNSUPPORTED_PROTOTYPE/921111.SGI.ANONFTP) for charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu id AA09659; Thu, 4 Mar 93 10:48:58 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 10:48:58 GMT From: tennant@hau410.uk.smithkline.com (Mike Tennant) Message-Id: <9303041048.AA09659@hau410.uk.smithkline.com> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Reaction Fields and Membrane Simulations Hi, I'm trying to get some info about the reaction field calcs in CHARMm. Specifically, can it be used to simulate a non-spherical field, ie around a protein. The reaon I am interested in this is that I am trying to simulate a receptor in a membrane using various models eg lipid, lipid+solvent, LD, MD etc. Does anybody have experience in calcs of this type. Also , any examples of the RXN field keyword in action would be most appreciated Mike Tennant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | _____ ____ || SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals Ltd | | / ___\\\\ _ \ || Coldharbour Rd | | | |___ \\|_| | || Harlow | | \____ \ | _ < || Essex | | ___| | | |_| | || CM19 5AD | | \_____/ |____/ || England | | || | |_____________________________________________________________________________| | Mike Tennant | | Harlow (0279) 622000x3328 | | Email: tennantm1@smithkline.com | | Email: smithkline.com!hau410.uk.smithkline.com!tennant | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl Thu Mar 4 10:49:18 1993 Received: from [130.89.50.60] by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16430; Thu, 4 Mar 93 10:49:18 -0500 Received: from utctu2 (utctu2.ct.utwente.nl) by ct.utwente.nl with SMTP id AA24360 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Thu, 4 Mar 1993 16:45:42 +0100 Received: by utctu2 (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @utct.ct.utwente.nl:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA06640; Thu, 4 Mar 93 16:48:19 GMT From: W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl (Willem Paul van Hoorn) Message-Id: <9303041648.AA06640@utctu2> Subject: Printing of *.doc files To: charmm-bbs ( CHARMm BBS) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 16:47:54 +0000 (WET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 875 Hi CHARMm users, In the directory $CHM_DATA/doc (= /usr/msi/quanta3.3/data/doc on Silicon Graphics) I find files with all kind of usefull information. What is the status of these files, some information in them seems not correct? For instantce the command 'SPECIfy' in the file miscom.doc is not recognized by CHARMm (vs 22.0). How can I print these files, they are in ASCII, but contain some format commands I do not know. Thanks, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Willem Paul van Hoorn (ir.) University of Twente e-mail: wphoorn@ct.utwente.nl Organic Chemistry Department phone : (NL)53-892955 P.O. Box 217 (NL)53-892980 7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands fax : (NL)53-356024 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ryszard@MSI.COM Thu Mar 4 12:21:43 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16627; Thu, 4 Mar 93 12:21:43 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA04412; Thu, 4 Mar 93 12:19:03 EST Received: from hogan.MSI.COM ([192.190.4.245]) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17708; Thu, 4 Mar 93 12:15:56 EST Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13580; Thu, 4 Mar 1993 12:18:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 12:18:39 -0500 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9303041718.AA13580@hogan.MSI.COM> To: W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl, charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Re: Printing of *.doc files *.doc files contain on-line charmm documentation, which (at least in principle) should be fully synchronized with the status of the code. If you find problems as described in your note please report them so we can correct them. How to print neatly *.doc files I am not quite sure... Ryszard Czerminski, MSI From jarrinm@woods.ulowell.edu Thu Mar 4 13:44:07 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16695; Thu, 4 Mar 93 13:44:07 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA05990; Thu, 4 Mar 93 13:41:30 EST Received: by woods.ulowell.edu (MX V3.1C) id 15739; Thu, 04 Mar 1993 13:41:39 EST Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1993 13:41:34 EST From: jarrinm@woods.ulowell.edu To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Message-Id: <0096901B.2F9F8AA0.15739@woods.ulowell.edu> Subject: RE: *.doc files I do not believe all *.doc files are updated, but only those that have listed the update dates on the beggining of each *.doc file. More important, not all *.doc files contain a line that says "c22doc". Mario Jarrin From jarrinm@woods.ulowell.edu Thu Mar 4 15:10:04 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16768; Thu, 4 Mar 93 15:10:04 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA08112; Thu, 4 Mar 93 15:07:28 EST Received: by woods.ulowell.edu (MX V3.1C) id 15995; Thu, 04 Mar 1993 15:07:25 EST Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1993 15:07:20 EST From: jarrinm@woods.ulowell.edu To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.edu Message-Id: <00969027.2ADDC660.15995@woods.ulowell.edu> Subject: TEST TEST From arne@mango.mef.ki.se Fri Mar 5 03:38:11 1993 Received: from mango.mef.ki.se by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA17215; Fri, 5 Mar 93 03:38:11 -0500 Received: by mango.mef.ki.se (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/4.03) id AA12215; Fri, 5 Mar 93 09:36:29 GMT Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 09:36:29 GMT From: arne@mango.mef.ki.se (Arne Elofsson) Message-Id: <9303050936.AA12215@mango.mef.ki.se> To: charmm-bbs, hotline@msi.com Subject: Quanta license code. Dear netters and people at MSI. I have now during two weeks been trying to get quanta3.2 running again. I have an IBM/RS6000 running aix3.1.5 and the problems started when I changed the IP number of the (damned) machine. After that it seems like the licencemanager did not start again. It does not complain when I start it but the licence manager is not running. I guess that the problem is due to some nameserving business, but everything else works fine, the machine knows itself etc .... DO ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ? arne From hotline@MSI.COM Fri Mar 5 09:40:47 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA17342; Fri, 5 Mar 93 09:40:47 -0500 Received: from support (support.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19270; Fri, 5 Mar 93 09:35:06 EST Received: by support (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA04261; Fri, 5 Mar 93 09:37:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 09:37:13 -0500 From: hotline@MSI.COM Message-Id: <9303051437.AA04261@support> Organization: Molecular Simulations Inc. Phone: (617) 229-8872 Fax: (617) 229-9092 To: charmm-bbs Subject: Quanta3.3 license installation for Arne Elofsson Arne, Since we have made several attempts to get Quanta running on your IBM machine, the best thing to try is to make sure that you can telnet to your own machine using the proper name. This will insure that the network is properly configured. Starting the license manager will generate a license.log file in /etc/ directory. What is contained in this file? The final solution if all else fails is to delete the license.dat file and to reinstall the license. If you are still having problems please contact MSI Scientific Support. Nick Reynolds -- ******************************************* * * * MOLECULAR SIMULATIONS HOTLINE SUPPORT * * 16 New England Executive Park * * Burlington, MA 01803-5297 * * Tel (617) 229-8879 / 1-800-756-4674 * * FAX (617) 229-9092 * * E-Mail hotline@msi.com * * * ******************************************* From ammon@chema.umd.edu Mon Mar 8 15:32:01 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA19254; Mon, 8 Mar 93 15:32:01 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA23772; Mon, 8 Mar 93 15:29:18 EST Received: by chema.umd.edu (MX V2.3-1) id 2660; Mon, 08 Mar 1993 15:33:35 EST Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1993 15:33:35 EST From: ammon@chema.umd.edu To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Message-Id: <0096934F.7FC959C0.2660@chema.umd.edu> Subject: Ewald parameters To MSI QUANTA/CHARMm and stand-alone CHARMM users.... HELP! I am using the QUANTA Crystal Builder option to set up the appropriate CHARM commands to perform crystal lattice refinement (energy minization). In order to have the inter-molecular electrostatic terms handled properly in the calculations, it is necessary to turn-on the EWALD switch located in the CHARMm Update Parameters palette. Part of the turn-on presumably involves setting values for three variables called "kappa", "nvec" and "length" (all initally 0). Unfortunately, there is no documentation on what these are and/or should be set to and there are no CHARM parameters with these names. I've spoken to the MSI folks in Mass. about this, but memories being what they are, they cannot remember what the parameters are supposed to be or a literature reference. Can someone out there please lend a hand. PLEASE do not suggest that I go back to Ewald's 1921 original paper. Thanks, Herman Ammon Dept. of Chemistry & Biochemistry Univ. of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 phone = 301-405-1824 FAX = 301-314-9121 From jim@quanta.phy.ohiou.edu Thu Mar 11 23:55:10 1993 Received: from quanta.phy.ohiou.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA22661; Thu, 11 Mar 93 23:55:10 -0500 Received: by quanta.phy.ohiou.edu (911016.SGI/920801.DMW) (for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu) id AA00720; Fri, 12 Mar 93 04:51:15 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 04:51:15 GMT From: jim@quanta.phy.ohiou.edu (Jim Poole) Message-Id: <9303120451.AA00720@quanta.phy.ohiou.edu> To: CHEMISTRY@ccl.net, charmm-bbs Subject: source for CONGEN Does anyone in the CHARMm or Computanional Chemistry list have any information about the program CONGEN by Bruccoleri and Karplus (Biopolymers 26, 137-168 (1987))? Is this program available from any of commercial venders, QCPE, anonymous FTP, or the authors? Can anyone who may have used it give estimates of cpu time needed to build sidechains for 10 residues, 25 residues, or 100 residues(gasp!)? I have read the appropriate references and I am very interested in this program. Thanks in advance, Jim Poole, Ohio University, Dept. of Chemistry phone (614) 593-1744 fax (614) 593-0l48 email jim@quanta.phy.ohiou.edu or jpoole@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu From robert@sg1.oc.wau.nl Fri Mar 12 03:48:51 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA22748; Fri, 12 Mar 93 03:48:51 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA03802; Fri, 12 Mar 93 03:45:59 EST Received: from Sg1.OC.wau.nl by Sun2.IenD.wau.nl (4.1/1.34) id AA29829; Fri, 12 Mar 93 09:45:41 +0100 Received: by Sg1.OC.wau.nl (911016.SGI/SMI-4.1) id AA06167; Fri, 12 Mar 93 09:44:19 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 09:44:19 GMT From: robert@sg1.oc.wau.nl (Robert Schrijvers) Message-Id: <9303120944.AA06167@Sg1.OC.wau.nl> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: usercharmm Hi, Who could help me solve a F77 linking problem? I tried to make my own charmm version by linking the charmm object files Every time I try to do this I encounter the same error message from the linker: three procedures are not defined ie. do_fio8,do_fioi4 and do_fior4. In my archive files there are no such procedures defined. I am running this on a Silicon Graphics personal Iris 4D25. Thanks in advance, Robert Schrijvers Molecular Modeling & Design Department of Organic Chemistry Agricultural University Wageningen Dreijenplein 8 6703 HB Wageningen The Netherlands Phone: 08370-82364 FAX:08370-84914 e-mail: robert@SG1.OC.WAU.NL From jim@quanta.phy.ohiou.edu Fri Mar 12 14:02:28 1993 Received: from quanta.phy.ohiou.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA23275; Fri, 12 Mar 93 14:02:28 -0500 Received: by quanta.phy.ohiou.edu (911016.SGI/920801.DMW) (for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu) id AA01740; Fri, 12 Mar 93 18:58:50 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 18:58:50 GMT From: jim@quanta.phy.ohiou.edu (Jim Poole) Message-Id: <9303121858.AA01740@quanta.phy.ohiou.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: CONGEN found Thanks for all the response about CONGEN. I have since spoke with Robert Bruccoleri, the author, and I am getting the liscence in place. Thanks again for the info. Jim Poole Chemistry Deptament, Ohio University phone (614)593-1744 fax (614)593-0148 email jim@quanta.phy.ohiou.edu or jpoole@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu From W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl Fri Mar 12 17:19:05 1993 Received: from utct.ct.utwente.nl by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA23631; Fri, 12 Mar 93 17:19:05 -0500 Received: from utctu2 (utctu2.ct.utwente.nl) by ct.utwente.nl with SMTP id AA05748 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 09:38:22 +0100 Received: by utctu2 (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @utct.ct.utwente.nl:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA03080; Fri, 12 Mar 93 09:40:57 GMT From: W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl (Willem Paul van Hoorn) Message-Id: <9303120940.AA03080@utctu2> Subject: Re: Ewald parameters To: charmm-bbs ( CHARMm BBS) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 09:40:44 +0000 (WET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 688 In the file commands.doc (On silicon graphics: $CHM_DATA/doc/commands.doc) is a reference to a file ewald.doc which unfortunately is not present. See also my earlier question about these doc files. Does still nobody knows how to print them? Regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Willem Paul van Hoorn (ir.) University of Twente e-mail: wphoorn@ct.utwente.nl Organic Chemistry Department phone : (NL)53-892955 P.O. Box 217 (NL)53-892980 7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands fax : (NL)53-356024 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From jarrinm@woods.ulowell.edu Fri Mar 12 17:46:06 1993 Received: from willow.ulowell.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA23729; Fri, 12 Mar 93 17:46:06 -0500 Received: by woods.ulowell.edu (MX V3.1C) id 29668; Thu, 11 Mar 1993 14:03:28 EST Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 14:03:24 EST From: jarrinm@woods.ulowell.edu To: charmm-bbs Message-Id: <0096959E.65A85360.29668@woods.ulowell.edu> Subject: Averages & rms fluctuatios When doign a dynamics run is possible to ask charmm to print out averages and rms fluctuatios of the major energy terms. This is done by setting IPRFRQ = to a specific # of steps which dictates how often the averages and rms are sent the output file. Is there any way to instruct charmm to print cummulative averages and rms values? By cummulative I mean an output every N steps which includes ALL previous takes steps (not only of the last N steps). This occurs during the symulation stage of a dynamics run but I would like to obtain the same output for the equilibration stage. I thank you in advance for your input. Mario Jarrin From W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl Fri Mar 12 17:48:55 1993 Received: from utct.ct.utwente.nl by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA23741; Fri, 12 Mar 93 17:48:55 -0500 Received: from utctu2 (utctu2.ct.utwente.nl) by ct.utwente.nl with SMTP id AA06077 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 14:09:17 +0100 Received: by utctu2 (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @utct.ct.utwente.nl:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA05171; Fri, 12 Mar 93 14:12:12 GMT From: W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl (Willem Paul van Hoorn) Message-Id: <9303121412.AA05171@utctu2> Subject: Re: Ewald parameters To: charmm-bbs ( CHARMm BBS) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 14:11:49 +0000 (WET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 688 In the file commands.doc (On silicon graphics: $CHM_DATA/doc/commands.doc) is a reference to a file ewald.doc which unfortunately is not present. See also my earlier question about these doc files. Does still nobody knows how to print them? Regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Willem Paul van Hoorn (ir.) University of Twente e-mail: wphoorn@ct.utwente.nl Organic Chemistry Department phone : (NL)53-892955 P.O. Box 217 (NL)53-892980 7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands fax : (NL)53-356024 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From JARRINM%AM.mrgate@woods.ulowell.edu Thu Mar 18 17:47:17 1993 Received: from woods.ulowell.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA29771; Thu, 18 Mar 93 17:47:17 -0500 Received: by woods.ulowell.edu (MX V3.1C) id 10290; Thu, 18 Mar 1993 17:44:33 EST Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 17:44:30 EST From: JARRINM%AM.mrgate@woods.ulowell.edu To: CHARMM-BBS X-Vmsmail-To: CHARMM-BBS@EMPEROR.HARVARD.EDU Message-Id: <00969B3D.71ABE740.10290@woods.ulowell.edu> Subject: Periodic Boundary Conditions From: NAME: JARRINM TEL: N/A ADDR: STUDENT To: charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu@INTERNET I am trying to learn to use PBC in the simulations I run. To my dissapointment I could not find any reference to the PBOU command in the charmm documentation that I have. Can anibody provide me (or tell me where I could get) the information I need in order to learn about the use of this command in charmm? I already thank you for your help. Mario Jarrin Chemistry Dpt. U. of MA at Lowell One University Ave Lowell, MA 01854 (508)934-3708/3541 e-mail:jarrinm@woods.ulowell.edu From eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Thu Mar 25 05:15:32 1993 Received: from benoni.Uit.No by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA07321; Thu, 25 Mar 93 05:15:32 -0500 Received: from benoni by ppenoni.uit.no with SMTP (PP) id <01652-0@ppenoni.uit.no>; Thu, 25 Mar 1993 11:12:10 +0000 Received: from trypsin.Chem.Uit.No by benoni.uit.no (5.65+IDA/Babel-1.15/ABaa-1.2/Ultrix) id AAbenoni01648; Thu, 25 Mar 1993 11:12:08 +0100 Received: by trypsin.chem.uit.no (911016.SGI/ABaa-2.0mini) id AA02831; Thu, 25 Mar 93 10:08:15 GMT Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 10:08:15 GMT From: eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Message-Id: <9303251008.AA02831@trypsin.chem.uit.no> To: charmm-bbs Subject: CDIE or RDIE; Solvation The choice of dielectric constant: is there a general opinion among CHARMm users that a distance dependent dielectric constant for in vacuo conditions is history? ( I have some copies of lecture notes from CHARMm course 1990, which recommend the use of constant dielectric for both in vacuo and aqueous conditions). There are many methods for solvating molecules, but which method is recommended if you want to solvate the whole protein (i.e. not stochastic boundary cond.) in water; box, radius, image etc..? Is image only used for the box option? Is there any documentation for use of SOLVATE8.STR etc.( under msi/quanta3.3/data directory)? Something else: Does anybody have experience with serine proteases and the residue numbering; 184A 184, 188A 188, 221A 221. Does CHARMm get any problem with this? -elle ####################################################### # Eldbjoerg Sofie Heimstad # # Protein Crystallography Group # # University Of Tromsoe, IMR # # 9037 Tromsoe, NORWAY phone: +47-83-45706 # # 44737 # # fax : +47-83-44765 # # E-mail: eldbjorg@trypsin.chem.uit.no # ####################################################### From F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU Thu Mar 25 13:27:06 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA07652; Thu, 25 Mar 93 13:27:06 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA10039; Thu, 25 Mar 93 13:24:10 EST Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 10:24:03 -0800 (PST) From: F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU (Brian W. Beck) Message-Id: <930325102403.20605299@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU> Subject: Making a solvent box of DMF To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu" Has anyone ever done or heard of anyone using dimethylformamide for solvent. I know of parameters for formamide, and for N-Methyl acetamide, but I can't for any literature sources for equilibrium bond lengths (ie. structure) and partial charges for DMF. I've built a DMF and calculated the partial charges using MOPAC, but I'd like to compare this to other work or literature precedent. Also, I've got a question about creating novell solvent boxes that you all can probably answer. After minimizing what I hope is a reasonable single molecule structure of DMF, I created a pseudo regular array of them by replicating the DMF over a lattice that would give me a density of 0.9487 g/ml, but I randomly oriented the DMF at each lattice point so I wouldn't have a regular crystal of DMF. I'm going to minimize for a few steps to get rid of bad contacts, but I was wondering whether I should start equilibrating my box at 0 K and ramp up to 300K or should I just start at 300K since I'm don't have regular structure to protect by ramping the temperatures. -Brian ================================================================================ | Brian W. Beck | Disclaimer: WASHINGTON ST. UNIVERSITY is only | |--------------------| responsible for the thoughts in my head. The | | Biochem/Biophysics | gibberish that pours forth from my lips and | | WSU , 261 Fulmer | fingertips is of no consequence and should | | Pullman, WA 99164 | be ignored at all costs. | | (509) 335 - 4083 | | |--------------------------------------|---------------------------------------| | E-mail Address: |Heisenberg's Molecular Voodoo Principle| | INTERNET F0388913@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu |"If there's a CAAT in a Pribnow box, | | BITNET F0388913@WSUVMS1 | you don't know whether it's "alive" | | DECNET JAGUAR::F0388913 | and functioning until you look inside"| ================================================================================ ========= SYMPOSIUM ========= Simulation of Polypeptide and Protein Structure May 3-4, 1993 A symposium to discuss research progress in the Theory CenterUs Parallel Processing Resource for Biomedical Scientists, as well as recent advances in computational chemistry and polypeptide modeling. ======== LOCATION ======== Sheraton Inn and Conference Center One Sheraton Drive Ithaca, New York 14850 ================== PRELIMINARY AGENDA ================== Malvin H. Kalos Director, Cornell Theory Center Welcome & Overview of the Parallel Processing Resource for Biomedical Scientists David Shalloway Biochemistry, Cornell University Effective Energy Simulating Annealing for Molecular Structure Prediction Harold Scheraga Chemistry, Cornell University The Multiple-minima Problem in Protein Folding Peter Kollman University of California/San Francisco Molecular Dynamics and Free Energy Calculations of Protein George Nemethy Biomathematical Sciences/Mt. Sinai Medical Center The Structure and Assembly of Collagen Daniel Ripoll/Richard Gillilan Cornell Theory Center Simulation and Visualization of Acetylcholinesterase Electrostatics Klaus Schulten Physics, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign Large Scale Simulations of Protein-Membrane Systems John Brady Food Science, Cornell University Molecular Dynamics Simulations of Carbohydrates Andrew McCammon Chemistry, University of Houston Computer-aided Molecular Design Chani Pangali Kendall Square Research Corporation Computational Chemistry on the KSR1 Jan Hermans Professor, Biophysics University of North Carolina/Chapel Hill Molecular Dynamics Studies of Peptide Conformational Equilibrium Dr. Dzung Nguyen, Ph.d Scientist, Biosym Technologies, Inc. Molecular Dynamics Study of the Structure and Dynamics of Proteins in a Crystalline Lonic Environment ============== POSTER SESSION ============== To apply for a poster session and/or video theatre presentation, please send abstract of research to cal@tc.cornell.edu by March 30, 1993. ======== WORKSHOP ======== In conjunction with the symposium, the Theory Center will conduct, during May 5-7, a training workshop on using the KSR1 parallel computer. A fee will be charged for the training workshop. Registration available separately. ============== ACCOMMODATIONS ============== Two local hotels have set aside rooms for the nights of May 3-4. Please make your reservations directly with the hotel and mention that you are coming for the Simulation of Polypeptide and Protein Structure symposium. Reservations must be made by April 12 to assure room availability. Sheraton Inn One Sheraton Drive Ithaca, NY 14850 607-257-2000 or 1-800-257-6992 607-257-3998 (fax) Rates start at $62 Holiday Inn 2310 North Triphammer Road Ithaca, NY 14850 607-257-3100 or 1-800-465-4329 607-257-4425 (fax) Rates start at $60 ================= REGISTRATION FORM ================= Return this part only, by April 5: Symposium on Simulation of Polypeptide and Protein Structure May 3-4, 1993 Sheraton Inn and Conference Center, Ithaca, NY Name: __ Title: __ Organization: __ Address: __ City/State/Zip/Country: __ Phone/Fax: __ Email: __ Special dietary requirements: Kosher__ Vegetarian__ Other ________________________________________ Return completed form to: (deadline April 5, 1993) Donna Smith, Conference Coordinator 422 Theory Center Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853 607-254-8686; 607-254-8888 (fax) donna@tc.cornell.edu From dchin Mon Mar 29 13:24:03 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA10555; Mon, 29 Mar 93 13:24:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 13:24:03 -0500 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9303291824.AA10555@emperor.harvard.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Parallel Processing Symposium I am posting this from: From jeanne@TC.Cornell.EDU Mon Mar 29 13:00:24 1993 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 12:57:12 -0500 From: "Jeanne C. Miller" To: amber@cgl.ucsf.edu, charmm-bbs-sysop, chemistry@ccl.net, dibug@comp.bioz.unibas.ch, gromos@igc.ethz.ch, hyperchem@autodesk.com, mmodinfo@uoft02.utoledo.edu, spasms-users@cgl.ucsf.edu, sybylreq@quant.chem.rpi.edu Subject: KSR Symposium Announcement ========= SYMPOSIUM ========= Simulation of Polypeptide and Protein Structure May 3-4, 1993 A symposium to discuss research progress in the Theory CenterUs Parallel Processing Resource for Biomedical Scientists, as well as recent advances in computational chemistry and polypeptide modeling. ======== LOCATION ======== Sheraton Inn and Conference Center One Sheraton Drive Ithaca, New York 14850 ================== PRELIMINARY AGENDA ================== Malvin H. Kalos Director, Cornell Theory Center Welcome & Overview of the Parallel Processing Resource for Biomedical Scientists David Shalloway Biochemistry, Cornell University Effective Energy Simulating Annealing for Molecular Structure Prediction Harold Scheraga Chemistry, Cornell University The Multiple-minima Problem in Protein Folding Peter Kollman University of California/San Francisco Molecular Dynamics and Free Energy Calculations of Protein George Nemethy Biomathematical Sciences/Mt. Sinai Medical Center The Structure and Assembly of Collagen Daniel Ripoll/Richard Gillilan Cornell Theory Center Simulation and Visualization of Acetylcholinesterase Electrostatics Klaus Schulten Physics, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign Large Scale Simulations of Protein-Membrane Systems John Brady Food Science, Cornell University Molecular Dynamics Simulations of Carbohydrates Andrew McCammon Chemistry, University of Houston Computer-aided Molecular Design Chani Pangali Kendall Square Research Corporation Computational Chemistry on the KSR1 Jan Hermans Professor, Biophysics University of North Carolina/Chapel Hill Molecular Dynamics Studies of Peptide Conformational Equilibrium Dr. Dzung Nguyen, Ph.d Scientist, Biosym Technologies, Inc. Molecular Dynamics Study of the Structure and Dynamics of Proteins in a Crystalline Lonic Environment ============== POSTER SESSION ============== To apply for a poster session and/or video theatre presentation, please send abstract of research to cal@tc.cornell.edu by March 30, 1993. ======== WORKSHOP ======== In conjunction with the symposium, the Theory Center will conduct, during May 5-7, a training workshop on using the KSR1 parallel computer. A fee will be charged for the training workshop. Registration available separately. ============== ACCOMMODATIONS ============== Two local hotels have set aside rooms for the nights of May 3-4. Please make your reservations directly with the hotel and mention that you are coming for the Simulation of Polypeptide and Protein Structure symposium. Reservations must be made by April 12 to assure room availability. Sheraton Inn One Sheraton Drive Ithaca, NY 14850 607-257-2000 or 1-800-257-6992 607-257-3998 (fax) Rates start at $62 Holiday Inn 2310 North Triphammer Road Ithaca, NY 14850 607-257-3100 or 1-800-465-4329 607-257-4425 (fax) Rates start at $60 ================= REGISTRATION FORM ================= Return this part only, by April 5: Symposium on Simulation of Polypeptide and Protein Structure May 3-4, 1993 Sheraton Inn and Conference Center, Ithaca, NY Name: __ Title: __ Organization: __ Address: __ City/State/Zip/Country: __ Phone/Fax: __ Email: __ Special dietary requirements: Kosher__ Vegetarian__ Other ________________________________________ Return completed form to: (deadline April 5, 1993) Donna Smith, Conference Coordinator 422 Theory Center Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853 607-254-8686; 607-254-8888 (fax) donna@tc.cornell.edu --end post-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Donovan Chin Ph.d Phone: 617.496.6820 Fax: 617.495.9857 Harvard University e-mail dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry 12 Oxford St. Cambridge, MA 02138, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU Thu Apr 1 15:43:20 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA15220; Thu, 1 Apr 93 15:43:20 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA06865; Thu, 1 Apr 93 15:40:15 EST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1993 12:40:10 -0800 (PST) From: F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU (Brian W. Beck) Message-Id: <930401124010.2060c02a@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU> Subject: Equilibration Suggestions? To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu" As I've written before, I've been trying to make a box of dimethyl formamide as a solvent, and now I've got it going, but I wanted a test for equilibration because I've started from a simple cubic lattice and I'm trying to get to a liquid. Refering to Allen & Tildesley, I've tried using the the translational order parameter: N 1 __ rho(k)= - \ cos(k*ri) N /_ i where k is the a reciprocal lattice vector of the initial lattice and ri is the position vector of atom i. To keep rho(k) origin-independent, I've actually calculated the the sqrt of the sum of the square of the above function plus the square of a similar sine function. However, what I observe happening is the simulation starts partially disorderd (remember I started from a randomly oriented cubic lattice) and generally remains so across my simulation. 1st: What methods do the rest of you use to test equilibration of novell liquid systems? 2nd: Has anyone used the translational order parameter before and run into similar phenomena? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -Brian ================================================================================ | Brian W. Beck | Disclaimer: WASHINGTON ST. UNIVERSITY is only | |--------------------| responsible for the thoughts in my head. The | | Biochem/Biophysics | gibberish that pours forth from my lips and | | WSU , 261 Fulmer | fingertips is of no consequence and should | | Pullman, WA 99164 | be ignored at all costs. | | (509) 335 - 4083 | | |--------------------------------------|---------------------------------------| | E-mail Address: |Heisenberg's Molecular Voodoo Principle| | INTERNET F0388913@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu |"If there's a CAAT in a Pribnow box, | | BITNET F0388913@WSUVMS1 | you don't know whether it's "alive" | | DECNET JAGUAR::F0388913 | and functioning until you look inside"| ================================================================================ From scsupham@reading.ac.uk Fri Apr 2 04:47:23 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA15930; Fri, 2 Apr 93 04:47:23 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA17741; Fri, 2 Apr 93 04:44:20 EST Received: from reading.ac.uk by susssys1.reading.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <28078-0@susssys1.reading.ac.uk>; Fri, 2 Apr 1993 10:35:19 +0100 From: scsupham@reading.ac.uk Date: Fri, 2 Apr 93 10:35:31 BST Message-Id: <2210.9304020935@scsscsc3> To: charmm-bbs <@harvard:charmm-bbs@emperor> Subject: Scaling of 1,4 ES interactions Cc: scsupham@reading.ac.uk, jasmit@chemistry.reading.ac.uk Content-Type: X-sun-attachment ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: text X-Sun-Data-Description: text X-Sun-Data-Name: text X-Sun-Content-Lines: 8 1,4 electrostatic interactions are scaled by 0.5 in CHARMm, but I have been unable to find any justification for this. Would it be invalid to alter the scaling factor to 1.0 when using ESP derived charges? Is the scaling factor required to reproduce correct torsional barriers and exists as a result of the setup of torsional and non-bonded parameterisation. jasmit. John Upham, Dept. of Chemistry, University of Reading, Berks., RG6 2AD, UK. Email: scsupham%reading.ac.uk@uk.ac (BITnet), scsupham@uk.ac.reading (Janet) Voice: +44 734 875123 x7441 (day), Fax: +44 734 311610 ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: default X-Sun-Data-Description: default X-Sun-Data-Name: .signature X-Sun-Content-Lines: 3 John Upham, Dept. of Chemistry, University of Reading, Berks., RG6 2AD, UK. Email: scsupham%reading.ac.uk@uk.ac (BITnet), scsupham@uk.ac.reading (Janet) Voice: +44 734 875123 x7441 (day), Fax: +44 734 311610 END --> chmbbs-mar93.log <--- BEGIN --> chmbbs-apr93.log <--- From F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU Thu Apr 1 15:43:20 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA15220; Thu, 1 Apr 93 15:43:20 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA06865; Thu, 1 Apr 93 15:40:15 EST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1993 12:40:10 -0800 (PST) From: F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU (Brian W. Beck) Message-Id: <930401124010.2060c02a@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU> Subject: Equilibration Suggestions? To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu" As I've written before, I've been trying to make a box of dimethyl formamide as a solvent, and now I've got it going, but I wanted a test for equilibration because I've started from a simple cubic lattice and I'm trying to get to a liquid. Refering to Allen & Tildesley, I've tried using the the translational order parameter: N 1 __ rho(k)= - \ cos(k*ri) N /_ i where k is the a reciprocal lattice vector of the initial lattice and ri is the position vector of atom i. To keep rho(k) origin-independent, I've actually calculated the the sqrt of the sum of the square of the above function plus the square of a similar sine function. However, what I observe happening is the simulation starts partially disorderd (remember I started from a randomly oriented cubic lattice) and generally remains so across my simulation. 1st: What methods do the rest of you use to test equilibration of novell liquid systems? 2nd: Has anyone used the translational order parameter before and run into similar phenomena? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -Brian ================================================================================ | Brian W. Beck | Disclaimer: WASHINGTON ST. UNIVERSITY is only | |--------------------| responsible for the thoughts in my head. The | | Biochem/Biophysics | gibberish that pours forth from my lips and | | WSU , 261 Fulmer | fingertips is of no consequence and should | | Pullman, WA 99164 | be ignored at all costs. | | (509) 335 - 4083 | | |--------------------------------------|---------------------------------------| | E-mail Address: |Heisenberg's Molecular Voodoo Principle| | INTERNET F0388913@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu |"If there's a CAAT in a Pribnow box, | | BITNET F0388913@WSUVMS1 | you don't know whether it's "alive" | | DECNET JAGUAR::F0388913 | and functioning until you look inside"| ================================================================================ From scsupham@reading.ac.uk Fri Apr 2 04:47:23 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA15930; Fri, 2 Apr 93 04:47:23 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA17741; Fri, 2 Apr 93 04:44:20 EST Received: from reading.ac.uk by susssys1.reading.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <28078-0@susssys1.reading.ac.uk>; Fri, 2 Apr 1993 10:35:19 +0100 From: scsupham@reading.ac.uk Date: Fri, 2 Apr 93 10:35:31 BST Message-Id: <2210.9304020935@scsscsc3> To: charmm-bbs <@harvard:charmm-bbs@emperor> Subject: Scaling of 1,4 ES interactions Cc: scsupham@reading.ac.uk, jasmit@chemistry.reading.ac.uk Content-Type: X-sun-attachment ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: text X-Sun-Data-Description: text X-Sun-Data-Name: text X-Sun-Content-Lines: 8 1,4 electrostatic interactions are scaled by 0.5 in CHARMm, but I have been unable to find any justification for this. Would it be invalid to alter the scaling factor to 1.0 when using ESP derived charges? Is the scaling factor required to reproduce correct torsional barriers and exists as a result of the setup of torsional and non-bonded parameterisation. jasmit. John Upham, Dept. of Chemistry, University of Reading, Berks., RG6 2AD, UK. Email: scsupham%reading.ac.uk@uk.ac (BITnet), scsupham@uk.ac.reading (Janet) Voice: +44 734 875123 x7441 (day), Fax: +44 734 311610 ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: default X-Sun-Data-Description: default X-Sun-Data-Name: .signature X-Sun-Content-Lines: 3 John Upham, Dept. of Chemistry, University of Reading, Berks., RG6 2AD, UK. Email: scsupham%reading.ac.uk@uk.ac (BITnet), scsupham@uk.ac.reading (Janet) Voice: +44 734 875123 x7441 (day), Fax: +44 734 311610 From brian@opus.chem.psu.edu Fri Apr 2 10:36:16 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16242; Fri, 2 Apr 93 10:36:16 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA21908; Fri, 2 Apr 93 10:33:13 EST Received: by opus.chem.psu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21180; Fri, 2 Apr 1993 10:33:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1993 10:33:57 -0500 From: brian@opus.chem.psu.edu (Brian J. Toleno) Message-Id: <9304021533.AA21180@opus.chem.psu.edu> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard I was wondering if anyone out there had a way to make RTFs from Gaussian92 or MOPAC files, or anyway to get geometries, etc. results from these progs into Quanta 3.2 (yes, its the old one). Thanks in advance. BT brian@opus.chem.psu.edu From kuczera@tedybr.chem.ukans.edu Fri Apr 2 13:41:09 1993 Received: from tedybr.chem.UKans.EDU by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16813; Fri, 2 Apr 93 13:41:09 -0500 Received: by tedybr.chem.ukans.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14982; Fri, 2 Apr 1993 12:36:01 -0600 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1993 12:36:01 -0600 From: kuczera@tedybr.chem.ukans.edu Message-Id: <9304021836.AA14982@tedybr.chem.ukans.edu> To: charmm-bbs In response to John Upham on the 1,4 factor: E14F = 0.5 (and sometimes even = 0.4) was used in previous CHARMM parametrizations to scale down 1-4 electrostatic (and van der Waals) interactions. As you mention, the reasons for this are not clear today; certainly it is only a slight complication and does no harm. All sorts of parameter values specifying equilibrium geometries and force constants are in principle dependent on the value of E14F. In the CHARMM version 22 parameter set we decided to simplify things and use E14F = 1.0. Surprisingly, modifying this parameter from 0.5 to 1.0 does not change things a lot, even for charged systems like the acetate ion (things = vibrational spectra, torsional barriers). For the model molecules I worked on, I found that generally only slight modifications of the dihedral force constants were needed, if any. To summarize, as you might expect, if you are parametrizing new molecules it makes sense to use E14F = 1.0 as long as you check that this does not introduce problems when merging new and old parameters. Krzysztof Kuczera Department of Chemistry University of Kansas 2010 Malott Hall Lawrence, KS 66045 tel: (913) 864-5060 (my office) or 864-4670 (Chemistry office) fax: (913) 864-5396 e-mail: kuczera@tedybr.chem.ukans.edu chant: rock-chalk-jayhawk From brbrooks@helix.nih.gov Fri Apr 2 14:58:48 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16851; Fri, 2 Apr 93 14:58:48 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA27063; Fri, 2 Apr 93 14:55:48 EST Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA20203; Fri, 2 Apr 93 14:55:44 -0500 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA19175; Fri, 2 Apr 93 14:55:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 93 14:55:43 -0500 From: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov (Bernie Brooks) Message-Id: <9304021955.AA19175@helix.nih.gov> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, kuczera@tedybr.chem.ukans.edu Subject: More on 1-4 electrostatics. In response to John Upham and Krzysztof Kuczera regarding 1-4 electrostatics. During the development of PARAM19 in 1984, we ran a number of crystal simulations (mostly cyclohexapeptides with 1-3 waters). We examined a wide variety od 1-4 factors and found that a factor of 0.4 gave optimal agreement with the crystal structures. Wheras it is true that a suboptimal 1-4 scale factor can be compensated for with adjusting torsional parameters, we have found this to be difficult to do in a general manner for transferable potential terms (i.e. quick fixes are generally not transferable). We have found that a 0.4-0.5 electrostatic scale factors are a good bridge betweed 1-3 interactions (not computed) and 1-5 interactions (fully calculated). This reduces the problems associated with splitting dipoles. For example, the C5 conformation of the alainine dipeptide is destabilized with a full 1-4 interaction (two repusive and one attractive interactions). With a 0.5 scale factor, there are two half repulsive and one attractive interaction. My recommendation is to use a scale factor of 0.5 for future parameter deveopment work. It is easier and the parameters are more transferable. Bernie Brooks, NIH' From brian@opus.chem.psu.edu Mon Apr 5 13:56:44 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA19694; Mon, 5 Apr 93 13:56:44 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA09187; Mon, 5 Apr 93 12:53:31 EST Received: by opus.chem.psu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13596; Mon, 5 Apr 1993 13:55:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 13:55:12 -0400 From: brian@opus.chem.psu.edu (Brian J. Toleno) Message-Id: <9304051755.AA13596@opus.chem.psu.edu> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard I was wondering if anyone out there had a way to make RTFs from Gaussian92 or MOPAC files, or anyway to get geometries, etc. results from these progs into Quanta 3.2 (yes, its the old one). Thanks in advance. BT brian@opus.chem.psu.edu From milan@helix.nih.gov Mon Apr 5 17:32:31 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA20176; Mon, 5 Apr 93 17:32:31 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA13123; Mon, 5 Apr 93 16:29:19 EST Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA03830; Mon, 5 Apr 93 17:29:19 -0400 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA08837; Mon, 5 Apr 93 17:28:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 93 17:28:26 -0400 From: milan@helix.nih.gov (Milan Hodoscek) Message-Id: <9304052128.AA08837@helix.nih.gov> To: brian@opus.chem.psu.edu (Brian J. Toleno) Cc: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard In-Reply-To: <9304051755.AA13596@opus.chem.psu.edu> References: <9304051755.AA13596@opus.chem.psu.edu> Brian J. Toleno writes: > > > > I was wondering if anyone out there had a way to make RTFs from Gaussian92 > or MOPAC files, or anyway to get geometries, etc. results from these progs > into Quanta 3.2 (yes, its the old one). Thanks in advance. > > BT > brian@opus.chem.psu.edu > > Hi, I made a program which makes charmm input file to see movies out of gaussian output with charmm graphics on Apollo or with quanta... Regards -- Milan Hodoscek From chandra@yorvic.york.ac.uk Tue Apr 6 13:55:34 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA21561; Tue, 6 Apr 93 13:55:34 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA00632; Tue, 6 Apr 93 12:52:19 EST From: Chandra Verma Date: Tue, 6 Apr 93 18:52:18 GMT Message-Id: <10936.9304061852@bill> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@edu.harvard.harvard Subject: Has anyone examined the effect of mixing all-atom and extended potentials in a simulation. For example what happens if say a protein is represented by an extended atom potential and a ligand that binds to the protein by an all atom potential. If so, what happens? From hong@dna.chm.jhu.edu Tue Apr 6 17:56:34 1993 Received: from jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA21878; Tue, 6 Apr 93 17:56:34 -0400 Received: from dna.chm.jhu.edu by JHMAIL.HCF.JHU.EDU (PMDF #12543) id <01GWP787KZQ8000TLZ@JHMAIL.HCF.JHU.EDU>; Tue, 6 Apr 1993 17:54 EST Received: by dna.chm.jhu.edu; Tue, 6 Apr 93 17:48:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 93 17:48:47 -0400 From: hong@dna.chm.jhu.edu (Guo Hong) Sender: hong@dna.chm.jhu.edu To: charmm-bbs Message-Id: <01GWP787KZQ8000TLZ@JHMAIL.HCF.JHU.EDU> Apparently-To: charmm-bbs subscribe charmm-bbs From mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com Wed Apr 7 04:40:11 1993 Received: from phinet.smithkline.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA22656; Wed, 7 Apr 93 04:40:11 -0400 Received: from FRGEN.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by smithkline.com (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA18699; Wed, 7 Apr 93 04:05:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 04:05:34 -0400 Message-Id: <9304070805.AA18699@smithkline.com> From: mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com To: charmm_bbs@smithkline.com.local Subject: Mixing all atom and extended potentials If the ligand is a non-peptide, then it would seem sensible to use extended potentials for the protein (to reduce the non-bonded list) and all atom-potentials for the ligand -- I presume I'm right in thinking that the parameter development for small molecules is done with all atom-potentials. I have mixed the two and got "sensible" results. Original query follows......... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | _____ ____ || SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals Ltd | | / ___\\\\ _ \ || Brockham Park | | | |___ \\|_| | || Tim Mitchell (Comp. Chem.) Betchworth | | \____ \ | _ < || Phone (0)737 36 4535 Surrey | | ____| | | |_| | || Fax. (0)737 36 4539 RH3 7AJ | | \_____/ |____/ || mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com U.K. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: INET::"chandra@yorvic.york.ac.uk" 6-APR-1993 18:58:32.21 To: charmm-bbs%emperor@edu.harvard.harvard CC: Subj: Has anyone examined the effect of mixing all-atom and extended potentials in a simulation. For example what happens if say a protein is represented by an extended atom potential and a ligand that binds to the protein by an all atom potential. If so, what happens? From Cathy_Terwedow@MSI.COM Wed Apr 7 16:01:04 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA24244; Wed, 7 Apr 93 16:01:04 -0400 Received: from msi.com ([192.190.12.69]) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10882; Wed, 7 Apr 93 15:54:11 EDT Message-Id: <9304071954.AA10882@schizoid.msi.com> Date: 7 Apr 1993 15:54:28 +0000 From: "Cathy Terwedow" Subject: Force Field Development Sem To: "All CHARMm Users" Cc: Frank_Momany@MSI.COM Subject: Time:2:49 PM OFFICE MEMO Force Field Development Seminar Date:4/7/93 Scientific Seminar FORCE FIELD DEVELOPMENT Monday, April 26 16 New England Executive Park Burlington, MA Molecular Simulations Incorporated invites you to visit their corporate headquarters for a one-day seminar on force-field parameter development, refinement methods, and recent results of calculations. 10:00 Frank Momany, Molecular Simulations Inc. Introduction 10:15 Lothar Schafer, The University of Arkansas Recent Results from Geometry Refined Correlation ab initio Studies and their Use in the Development of Empirical Force Field Parameters 11:15 Bernard Brooks, The National Institutes of Health Evaluation of Macromolecular Force Field Parameters through Molecular #011#Dynamic Simulations 12:15 Lunch, Discussion 1:30 Kjeld Rassmussen, The Technical University of Denmark The Consistent Force Field: Development of Potential Energy Functions by Optimization of Experimental Data 2:30 Thomas Halgren, Merck Research Laboratories The MMFF Force Field: Development of Potential Energy Parameters and #011#functions using ab initio Results 3:30 Break 3:45 Frank Momany, MSI Use of QUANTA(r) 3.3/CHARMm(r) Parameters on Small to Medium Size Cyclic and Linear Peptides 4:40 Discussion and Conclusion Reservations are requested. Please fax your response to Cathy Terwedow, 617/229-9899. If you prefer, you can call our seminar information line at 617/229-9800 x567 and make your reservation by voice mail. From Cathy_Terwedow@MSI.COM Wed Apr 7 16:28:41 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA24283; Wed, 7 Apr 93 16:28:41 -0400 Received: from msi.com ([192.190.12.69]) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10991; Wed, 7 Apr 93 16:21:48 EDT Message-Id: <9304072021.AA10991@schizoid.msi.com> Date: 7 Apr 1993 16:23:33 +0000 From: "Cathy Terwedow" Subject: Momany Seminar To: "All CHARMm Users" Cc: Frank_Momany@MSI.COM Subject: Time:3:21 PM OFFICE MEMO Momany Seminar Date:4/7/93 I just sent out a notice to the CHARMm bulletin board about a seminar on force field development being held at Molecular Simulations' headquarters in Burlington, MA. If you wish to register for this seminar, PLEASE give me your name, address, phone and fax numbers, as well as your academic or corporate affiliation and title! Just saying "Yes, I'll attend" is not enough! Thank-you, Cathy Terwedow Manager of Marketing Communications Molecular Simulations From W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl Thu Apr 15 08:11:42 1993 Received: from [130.89.50.60] by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA03227; Thu, 15 Apr 93 08:11:42 -0400 Received: from utctu6.ct.utwente.nl ([130.89.50.110]) by ct.utwente.nl with SMTP id AA27875 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Thu, 15 Apr 1993 14:07:43 +0200 Received: by utctu6.ct.utwente.nl (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @utct.ct.utwente.nl:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA27304; Thu, 15 Apr 93 14:05:05 +0100 From: W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl (Willem Paul van Hoorn) Message-Id: <9304151305.AA27304@utctu6.ct.utwente.nl> Subject: Hydrogen-bond display parameters Quanta To: charmm-bbs (CHARMm BBS) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 14:04:59 +0000 (WDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1244 Hi, When I let Quanta draw hydrogen bonds it seems that it doesn't recognize certain N-types as hydrogen-bond acceptors. The parameters for deciding whether an atom is a donor or an acceptor are found in $HYD_LIB/param.par (Is this true??). In this file only the following N-types are marked as acceptors: N5R Nitrogen in a five membered aromatic ring N6R Nitrogen in a six membered aromatic ring N6RP for Aryl-Aryl bond between six membered rings At least I should have expected the following N-type also marked as acceptors: NT Nitrogen (tetrahedral), i.e. Amine, etc. NP Nitrogen in peptide, amide, or related, group NC Charged guanidinium-type nitrogen NC2 for neutral guanidinium group - Arg sidechain ... Does anyone know why these parameters are set up as they are? Thanks, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Willem Paul van Hoorn (ir.) University of Twente e-mail: wphoorn@ct.utwente.nl Organic Chemistry Department phone : (NL)53-892955 P.O. Box 217 (NL)53-892980 7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands fax : (NL)53-356024 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From @BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU:BUSATH@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU Fri Apr 16 17:39:13 1993 Received: from brownvm.brown.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05242; Fri, 16 Apr 93 17:39:13 -0400 Message-Id: <9304162139.AA05242@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2169; Fri, 16 Apr 93 17:06:59 EDT Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin BUSATH@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 9875; Fri, 16 Apr 1993 17:06:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 17:06:17 EDT From: David Busath Subject: Reply to van Horn To: CHARMM-BBS The other atoms you mentioned usually have a polar hydrogen attached which serves as a hydrogen bond donor, No? From MEMMS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Tue Apr 20 12:06:35 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA08465; Tue, 20 Apr 93 12:06:35 -0400 Message-Id: <9304201606.AA08465@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA13592; Tue, 20 Apr 93 11:03:05 EST Received: by hsdndev.harvard.edu; Tue, 20 Apr 93 12:02:55 -0400 Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (NJE origin MEMMS@CUNYVM) by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with RFC822 id 7232; Tue, 20 Apr 1993 12:01:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 12:00:03 EDT From: Mihaly Mezei Subject: Inclusion To: Charmm BB Greetings, Could you please add me to the Charmm mailing list? Thank you. Mihaly Mezei MEMMS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics Mount Sinai School of Medicine New York, NY 10029 From W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl Thu Apr 22 04:12:46 1993 Received: from utct.ct.utwente.nl by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA10882; Thu, 22 Apr 93 04:12:46 -0400 Received: from utctu6.ct.utwente.nl by ct.utwente.nl with SMTP id AA14251 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Thu, 22 Apr 1993 10:09:05 +0200 Received: by utctu6.ct.utwente.nl (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @utct.ct.utwente.nl:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA28032; Thu, 22 Apr 93 10:06:17 +0100 From: W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl (Willem Paul van Hoorn) Message-Id: <9304220906.AA28032@utctu6.ct.utwente.nl> Subject: Answers Hydrogen display Quanta To: charmm-bbs (CHARMm BBS) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 10:06:13 +0000 (WDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2478 I have sent the following question to the CHARMm BBS: >When I let Quanta draw hydrogen bonds it seems that it doesn't recognize >certain N-types as hydrogen-bond acceptors. >The parameters for deciding whether an atom is a donor or an acceptor >are found in $HYD_LIB/param.par (Is this true??). In this file only >the following N-types are marked as acceptors: >N5R Nitrogen in a five membered aromatic ring >N6R Nitrogen in a six membered aromatic ring >N6RP for Aryl-Aryl bond between six membered rings >At least I should have expected the following N-type also marked as >acceptors: >NT Nitrogen (tetrahedral), i.e. Amine, etc. >NP Nitrogen in peptide, amide, or related, group >NC Charged guanidinium-type nitrogen >NC2 for neutral guanidinium group - Arg sidechain >... >Does anyone know why these parameters are set up as they are? Chandra Verma answers: >If you look at $HYD_LIB there is a file called dictionary.lib. Copy that file >into the area you are running quanta from or maybe in your home area (you will >have to test this out). then copy the param.par file into some area and put in >the missing atom types or change any atom types to what you want. then edit >dictionary.lib and include a line which points to your file and when you look >at the EDIT menu there is apply dictionary option - use it and the files in >dictionary.lib ought to come up including your file and use it. why the status >is as at present i haven't a clue! MSI Technical Support Hotline answers: > The nitrogen types you specify are more typically regarded as donors for >hydrogen bonds rather than acceptors. In the Quanta method, though, the >hydrogen itself is marked as the donor (rather than the heavy atom, as is done >in CHARMm). > > If you want these nitrogens to be involved in hydrogen bonding in an >acceptor role, you can make the changes in $HYD_LIB/param.par to convert them >to acceptors. > > Bob Funchess Thanks for all answers, Regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Willem Paul van Hoorn (ir.) University of Twente e-mail: wphoorn@ct.utwente.nl Organic Chemistry Department phone : (NL)53-892955 P.O. Box 217 (NL)53-892980 7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands fax : (NL)53-356024 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From chandra@yorvic.york.ac.uk Fri Apr 23 05:24:20 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11749; Fri, 23 Apr 93 05:24:20 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA12756; Fri, 23 Apr 93 04:20:54 EST From: Chandra Verma Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 10:20:36 GMT Message-Id: <4314.9304231020@dibble> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@edu.harvard.harvard Subject: Venable et al have just published a report on the dynamics of HIV-1 Protease in a sperical aqueous droplet in Proteins (vol 15). The waters are prevented from flying off by applying a weak centripetal force which approximates an external pressure of 2 atmospheres. has anyone any idea of how these dynamics compare with those with the waters restrained from flying off by fixing only the outer layer or two of the sphere and leaving the rest of the waters free chandra From chin@thurifer Tue Apr 27 16:07:00 1993 Received: from gmwgate.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA02542; Tue, 27 Apr 93 16:07:00 -0400 Message-Id: <9304272007.AA02542@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: by thurifer; Tue, 27 Apr 93 16:07:47 EDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 93 16:07:47 EDT From: chin@thurifer (Donovan Chin) To: charmm-bbs Subject: New charmm-bbs version.. Greetings, Due to the size and complexity of the existing charmm-bbs (> 150 members with 10 addresses to other groups), I have put together a new version of the charmm-bbs exploder program (many thanks Jan). The existing charmm-bbs can be fooled every now-and-then by faulty e-mail addresses and/or downed systems, much to the inconvenience of many of it's subscribers. The new charmm-bbs will be more "intelligent" and "administrative" so that an acceptable level of reliability will be consistently maintained. Before I fully implement the new charmm-bbs, I would like to solicit a few volunteers from the charmm-bbs community to test the new system. Ideally, I would like to have a wide sample of e-mail addresses if possible. If you think you have an unusual e-mail address or mail program, I would appreciate it if you consider taking time out to be a volunteer. The tests will be very short...more on this if you are willing. If you are able to be a tester, then send e-mail stating so to: chin@thurifer.harvard.edu. I will respond at the appropriate time when I have gathered enough people. Regards, Donovan charmm-bbs-administrator. From chind@cobalt.ulowell.edu Tue Apr 27 17:06:08 1993 Received: from cobalt.ulowell.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA02577; Tue, 27 Apr 93 17:06:08 -0400 Received: by cobalt.ulowell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13388; Tue, 27 Apr 1993 17:00:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 17:00:43 -0400 From: chind@cobalt.ulowell.edu Message-Id: <9304272100.AA13388@cobalt.ulowell.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: What is PSTRCT in charmm? ** I am posting this for jarrinm@woods.ulowell.edu ** --------------------------------------------------------------------------- U N I V E R S I T Y O F M A S S A C H U S E T T S L O W E L L Subject: Meaning of PSTRCT? I am trying to do an energy minimization using the algorithm ABNR (Adopted basis Newton-Raphson). The number of steps for the minimization is 10000 (NSTEP=10000) and the tolerance applied to the average gradient is set to 0.10 (TOLGRD=0.10). Before the minimization starts, the following message is sent to the LOG file: "ABNER> An energy minimization has been requested" This is followed by a list of 12 keywords, such as TOLGRD and NSTEP, and their respective numerical values. Among these keywords there is one named PSTRCT=0.0001 Soon after this message minimization starts, but it sops before the total number of steps or before arriving to a TOLGRD=0.10. Instead the message sent to the LOG file is: "ABNER> Minimization exiting with variable tolerance (0.0001) satisfied" I believe that the message is reffering to PSTRCT since is the only keyword set to a value of 0.0001 Can somebody tell me what PSTRCT stands for? I searched $CHM_DATA/doc but I could not find information about PSTRCT. I am using CHARMm 21.3 I would really appreciate any information about this problem, thank you. Mario Jarrin Chemistry Department U. of Massachusetts at Lowell One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854 508-934-3708/3541 e-mail: jarrinm@woods.ulowell.edu From ryszard@MSI.COM Tue Apr 27 17:40:25 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA02613; Tue, 27 Apr 93 17:40:25 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA01941; Tue, 27 Apr 93 17:37:04 EDT Received: from hogan.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12936; Tue, 27 Apr 93 17:32:44 EDT Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA04324; Tue, 27 Apr 1993 17:36:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 17:36:45 -0400 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9304272136.AA04324@hogan.MSI.COM> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, chind@cobalt.ulowell.edu Subject: Re: What is PSTRCT in charmm? If coordinates are moving less then PSTRCT abner stops with the message "ABNER> Minimization exiting with variable tolerance satisfied". Actually it is testing biggest RELATIVE displacement maximum (abs(par_new(i) - par_old(i))/par_old(i)) In charmm22 default value for PSTRCT is set to zero. Ryszard, MSI From chin@thurifer Wed Apr 28 20:42:39 1993 Received: from gmwgate.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04306; Wed, 28 Apr 93 20:42:39 -0400 Message-Id: <9304290042.AA04306@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: by thurifer; Wed, 28 Apr 93 20:43:27 EDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 20:43:27 EDT From: chin@thurifer (Donovan Chin) To: charmm-bbs Subject: I have enough testers... ..for the new charmm-bbs. Thanks, Donovan Chin charmm-bbs-administrator. From UCH422@unidozr.hrz.uni-dortmund.de Thu Apr 29 06:52:39 1993 Received: from nx1.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04478; Thu, 29 Apr 93 06:52:39 -0400 Received: from zx1.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE by mail.hrz.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (PP) id <09937-0@mail.hrz.uni-dortmund.de>; Thu, 29 Apr 1993 12:49:08 +0200 Received: by zx1.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (/\../\ Smail3.1.14.4 #14.2) id ; Thu, 29 Apr 93 12:49 Message-Id: Received: from unidozr.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (UCH422) by DDOHRZ11.BITNET (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id 4875; Thu, 29 Apr 93 12:49:20 SET Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 12:48:55 SET From: wos Subject: correl To: charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu. **************************************************************** I HOPE THIS MESSAGE IS NOW CORRECTLY ADDRESSED!!!!! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DEAR MRS. AND MR., I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS IN CALCULATING CORRELATION FUNCTIONS AND FLUCTATIONS WITH QUANTA/CHARMM3.3 I HAVE SIMULATED A SYSTEM OF 50 MOLECULES OF A LIQUID CRYSTAL, 4-(T-4'-N-PENTYL-CYCLOHEXYL)-BENZONITRIL, WITH PERIODIC BOUNDARY CONDITIONS. I WANT TO GENERATE A STREAM FILE TO CALCULATE CORRELATION FUNCTIONS, MEAN SQUARE DISPLACEMENT OF CENTRE OF MASS ETC. THEREFORE I WANT TO USE THE KEYWARDS CORFUN AND CORREL. THE ENTER KEYWORD IS NECESSARY TO SPECIFY THE ATOMS, BONDS AND DIHEDRALS TO CHECK WHICH FUNCTIONS ARE TO BE CALCULATED. MY PROBLEM IS TO DEFINE THESE DECLARATIONS. I CAN USE ATOM TYPES OR ATOM NUMBERS BUT THE CALCULATION INTERRUPTS WITH ERROR 'UNREGOGNIZED ATOMS/COMMANDS'. PLEASE TELL HOW I CAN GENERATE THE CORRECT STREAM FILE FOR THE PROBLEMS I HAVE DESCRIBED ABOVE. WHICH KEYWORD CALCULATES THE CENTRE OF MASS? THE MEANING OF THE KEYWORDS MAXTIME AND MAXSERIES ARE NOT CLEAR DEFINED WITH REGARD TO THE KEYWORD CORFUN. BEST REGARDS, B. WOSNIK From UCH422@unidozr.hrz.uni-dortmund.de Thu Apr 29 08:24:40 1993 Received: from nx1.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04510; Thu, 29 Apr 93 08:24:40 -0400 Received: from zx1.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE by mail.hrz.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (PP) id <10194-0@mail.hrz.uni-dortmund.de>; Thu, 29 Apr 1993 14:21:09 +0200 Received: by zx1.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (/\../\ Smail3.1.14.4 #14.2) id ; Thu, 29 Apr 93 14:21 Message-Id: Received: from unidozr.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (UCH422) by DDOHRZ11.BITNET (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id 4901; Thu, 29 Apr 93 14:21:22 SET Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 14:20:58 SET From: wos Subject: shape To: charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu. DEAR MRS. AND MR., I HAVE SIMULATED A SYSTEM OF 50 MOLECULES OF A LIQUID CRYSTAL AND DONE A CONSTANT PRESSURE AND TEMPERATURE CALCULATION WITH PERIODIC BOUNDARIES (CUBIC SYSTEM) FURTHERMORE I WANT TO USE MY *.DCD FILES FOR EXTERNAL CALCULATIONS. THEREFORE I TRY TO CONVERT THESE .DCD FILES INTO IOBUFFER-FORMAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATIONS ABOUT THE SYMMETRIC SHAPE MATRIX XTLABC WHEN QCRYS=TRUE. ==> USERS'S GUIDE SUPPLEMENT S.156!!!! PLEASE TELL ME ABOUT THE WAY TO DEFINE THIS EXPRESSION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANKS, BEATE WOSNIK From ryszard@MSI.COM Thu Apr 29 11:45:23 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04629; Thu, 29 Apr 93 11:45:23 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA06733; Thu, 29 Apr 93 11:41:55 EDT Received: from hogan.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17816; Thu, 29 Apr 93 11:37:32 EDT Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15644; Thu, 29 Apr 1993 11:41:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 11:41:34 -0400 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9304291541.AA15644@hogan.MSI.COM> To: UCH422@unidozr.hrz.uni-dortmund.de, charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Re: shape Dear Beate, Symmetric shape matrix XTLABC is stored in DCD file as a low triagle. It means in general: S11 S12 S22 S13 S23 S33 In your case: A 0 B 0 0 C (since you are dealing with CUBIC system). If you have any further problems with it, let me know and we can deal with it off line. Sincerely, Ryszard Czerminski, MSI From dchin Thu Apr 29 14:54:50 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05048; Thu, 29 Apr 93 14:54:50 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 14:54:50 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9304291854.AA05048@emperor.harvard.edu> To: mytest Subject: test This is a test =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Donovan Chin Phone: 617.496.6820 Fax: 617.495.9857 Harvard University e-mail dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry 12 Oxford St. Cambridge, MA 02138, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From dchin Thu Apr 29 14:55:46 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05064; Thu, 29 Apr 93 14:55:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 14:55:46 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9304291855.AA05064@emperor.harvard.edu> To: mytest Subject: Test This is just a test =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Donovan Chin Phone: 617.496.6820 Fax: 617.495.9857 Harvard University e-mail dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry 12 Oxford St. Cambridge, MA 02138, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From dchin Thu Apr 29 14:59:35 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05105; Thu, 29 Apr 93 14:59:35 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 14:59:35 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9304291859.AA05105@emperor.harvard.edu> To: bbs-log Subject: dkfj dkfjk =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Donovan Chin Phone: 617.496.6820 Fax: 617.495.9857 Harvard University e-mail dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry 12 Oxford St. Cambridge, MA 02138, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From dchin Thu Apr 29 15:00:46 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05133; Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:00:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:00:46 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9304291900.AA05133@emperor.harvard.edu> To: bbs-log Subject: dkfj kdjf =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Donovan Chin Phone: 617.496.6820 Fax: 617.495.9857 Harvard University e-mail dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry 12 Oxford St. Cambridge, MA 02138, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From dchin Thu Apr 29 15:01:25 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05145; Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:01:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:01:25 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9304291901.AA05145@emperor.harvard.edu> To: mytest Subject: dkfjk =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Donovan Chin Phone: 617.496.6820 Fax: 617.495.9857 Harvard University e-mail dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry 12 Oxford St. Cambridge, MA 02138, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From chind@cobalt.ulowell.edu Thu Apr 29 15:02:24 1993 Received: from cobalt.ulowell.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05158; Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:02:24 -0400 Received: by cobalt.ulowell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA10985; Thu, 29 Apr 1993 14:57:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 14:57:00 -0400 From: chind@cobalt.ulowell.edu Message-Id: <9304291857.AA10985@cobalt.ulowell.edu> To: mytest Subject: test cobalt ~r test.let Citizens: This is short message which serves only to test on the charmm-bbs. It has more than 100 characters so that charmm-bbs will not think it is a subscription. This mindless dribble is from a temporary state of mind and not indicative of the state I live in. Vivaldi From chind@cobalt.ulowell.edu Thu Apr 29 15:04:57 1993 Received: from cobalt.ulowell.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05174; Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:04:57 -0400 Received: by cobalt.ulowell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA05118; Thu, 29 Apr 1993 14:59:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 14:59:32 -0400 From: chind@cobalt.ulowell.edu Message-Id: <9304291859.AA05118@cobalt.ulowell.edu> To: mytest Subject: test Citizens: This is short message which serves only to test on the charmm-bbs. It has more than 100 characters so that charmm-bbs will not think it is a subscription. This mindless dribble is from a temporary state of mind and not indicative of the state I live in. Vivaldi ' From dchin Thu Apr 29 15:07:39 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05189; Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:07:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:07:39 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9304291907.AA05189@emperor.harvard.edu> To: mytest Subject: theh dfjdk =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Donovan Chin Phone: 617.496.6820 Fax: 617.495.9857 Harvard University e-mail dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry 12 Oxford St. Cambridge, MA 02138, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From dchin Thu Apr 29 15:27:10 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05228; Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:27:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:27:10 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9304291927.AA05228@emperor.harvard.edu> To: mytest Subject: charmm-bbs2.0 **Start over ** Dear testers, Some of you did not get the message below because I had decided to use a SUN for the bbs. Well as I found out, SUN does funny convoluted things with certain email addresses. Consequently some of you didnt get the original messaged. I am back to using a SGI now. THerefore "mytest@emperor.harvard.edu" will be the address for the test. This starting fresh. If are receiving this a second time, sorry, just reply back. --Begin original message-- Greetings volunteers: First, many thanks to all of you for taking part in the test of the new charmm-bbs2.0. "Ryszard Czerminski" "Robert Funchess" "Boryeu Mao" "David Deerfield" "Brian Beck" "Djamal Bouzida" "Eldbjoerg Heimstad" "Peter Grootenhuis" "Marc Gingold" "Arne Elofsson" "Thomas Hoeffel" "Angelo Rossi" "Bruce Tidor" ** So that I know that this gets through, please reply ** Depending on your various time tables (as well as time zones), the tests shouldn't take too long to complete. Here are the highlights of the new charmm-bbs(2.0): ** The address (after the tests) will still be "charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu". ** Messages send to charmm-bbs are pre-processed to determine if they are acceptable and then redirected to all the subscribers. The main criteria for acceptability is as follows: (1)Returned mail is trapped by charmm-bbs2.0 (e.g. if a person's address is no longer valid or a machine is down somewhere). It is sent to charmm-bbs-administrator. (2)Charmm-bbs2.0 now requires that you use the Subject: field. If you do not use the Subject field, it will send a message back to you stating why you need to use the Subject field along with your original message. (3)If there are any key words such as "subscribe, sign, of, please, add, remove, delete, drop" in the body of the message AND the body of text is less than 100 characters; then it is redirected to the charmm-bbs-administrator as it is probably related to a subscription status. (4)If the body of the text is less than 100 characters and doesn't contain one of the keywords in (3), then it is sent to charmm-bbs-administrator. This may be contain words not acceptable for distribution to the list. NOTE: if the body of text contains personal signatures as well, it is possible that one line messages could go to the list. (5)If the message is greater than 50 Kb it is rejected. Once a message has been accepted by the charmm-bbs2.0 pre- processor it will redirect to the list of subscribers. **NEW** charmm-bbs2.0 will now send a confirmation letter to the originator of each posted message stating that it was RECEIVED and that it has been DISTRIBUTED (no more guessing). The originator of a message will also receive a second copy of the letter as it is distributed to the list . The look and feel of charmm-bbs2.0 will be similar to the computational chemistry bbs at ccl.net (so sue me). When you see this message you will have an idea on what the distributed charmm-bbs2.0 mail will look like. As this message is getting long, I will send another message describing the tests. I'll be back at the appropriate time. --Donovan charmm-bbs-administrator. ~ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Donovan Chin Phone: 617.496.6820 Fax: 617.495.9857 Harvard University e-mail dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry 12 Oxford St. Cambridge, MA 02138, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From ryszard@MSI.COM Thu Apr 29 15:35:44 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05262; Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:35:44 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for mytest@emperor) id AA11171; Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:32:21 EDT Received: from hogan.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18401; Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:28:00 EDT Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13861; Thu, 29 Apr 1993 15:32:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 15:32:03 -0400 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9304291932.AA13861@hogan.MSI.COM> To: dchin%emperor@harvard, mytest%emperor@harvard Subject: Re: charmm-bbs2.0 **Start over ** Donovan, I have got your test (only one). The way you have described it will work - looks good. See you, Ryszard From arne@mango.mef.ki.se Fri Apr 30 03:27:05 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) for dchin id AA06036; Fri, 30 Apr 93 03:27:05 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for dchin@emperor) id AA21894; Fri, 30 Apr 93 03:23:39 EDT Received: by mango.mef.ki.se (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/4.03) id AA15579; Fri, 30 Apr 93 09:23:55 GMT From: arne@mango.mef.ki.se (Arne Elofsson) Message-Id: <9304300923.AA15579@mango.mef.ki.se> To: dchin%emperor@harvard (Donovan Chin) Cc: mytest%emperor@harvard, arne@mango.mef.ki.se Subject: Re: charmm-bbs2.0 **Start over ** In-Reply-To: (Your message of Thu, 29 Apr 93 15:27:10 D.) <9304291927.AA05228@emperor.harvard.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 93 09:23:54 +0000 The second message also went true for arne elofsson From dchin Sat May 1 12:03:53 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA07945; Sat, 1 May 93 12:03:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 1 May 93 12:03:53 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9305011603.AA07945@emperor.harvard.edu> To: mytest Subject: * Second round of tests... Ok, so far so good. I have not heard from Peter, Marc (the link to france was down last week) or Angelo but they can catch up later. Now I would like to test two things. Tests: (1) Will each of you send a message to mytest@emperor.harvard.edu that is longer than 100 characters (including signatures), BUT DONT INCLUDE A SUBJECT. Charmm-bbs2.0 should reject the letter and send it back to you with a message stating why. Put the line "test for NO SUBJECT field" in the body of text for this test. If anyone gets this message delivered to them, please let me know. ** When you get the rejected message back from charmm-bbs2.0, please send a note to me at: "dchin@emperor.harvard.edu" ** next test (2) Now send a message to mytest@emperor.harvard.edu that HAS a subject field. You may want to take this time to share any views you may have about this bbs. I welcome any suggestions. Put the line " test DISTRIBUTED message" in the body of the text. ** When everybody receives a message from everyone else, please send a note to me at: "dchin@emperor.harvard.edu" ** Probably the best thing to do here is to collect the messages from everyone for a day or so and then send me a message stating something like, '..received messages from person1, person2, person3....etc.' Thanks ahead of time, --Donovan. ps. once again; due to the different schedules of the testers, messages may pop up slowly over time. This was written Saturday April 4th. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Donovan Chin Phone: 617.496.6820 Fax: 617.495.9857 Harvard University e-mail dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry 12 Oxford St. Cambridge, MA 02138, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From bobf@MSI.COM Sat May 1 12:33:37 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA07986; Sat, 1 May 93 12:33:37 -0400 Received: from support (support.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21428; Sat, 1 May 93 12:25:52 EDT Received: by support (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for mytest@emperor.harvard.edu id AA06350; Sat, 1 May 93 12:29:34 -0400 Message-Id: <9305011629.AA06350@support> From: Bob Funchess Date: Sat, 1 May 1993 12:29:33 -0400 Organization: Molecular Simulations Inc. Phone: (617) 229-9800 ext. 202 To: mytest test for NO SUBJECT field Now I have to come up with some sort of gunk to fill up the 100 character limit. One line is 80 characters, so two lines should do it... even if spaces don't count I should be there by now. Bob F. -- Dr. Robert B. Funchess Molecular Simulations Inc. Technical Support Scientist 16 New England Executive Park bobf@msi.com Burlington, MA 01803-5297 (617) 229-9800 x202 FAX (617) 229-9899 From bobf@MSI.COM Sat May 1 12:36:58 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA07996; Sat, 1 May 93 12:36:58 -0400 Received: from support (support.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21434; Sat, 1 May 93 12:29:14 EDT Received: by support (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for mytest@emperor.harvard.edu id AA06362; Sat, 1 May 93 12:32:51 -0400 Message-Id: <9305011632.AA06362@support> From: Bob Funchess Date: Sat, 1 May 1993 12:32:51 -0400 Organization: Molecular Simulations Inc. Phone: (617) 229-9800 ext. 202 To: mytest Subject: test two test DISTRIBUTED message written Saturday May 1 (Donovan, Saturday April 4th?? are you using the same calendar as the rest of us?) I just got new mail: Mail Delivery Subs May 1 (68/2845) ** MESSAGE REJECTED Presumably that's the first test. I have a couple of questions about the new format, but maybe I should talk to Donovan directly about those since I just saw him 5 minutes ago. Bob F. -- Dr. Robert B. Funchess Molecular Simulations Inc. Technical Support Scientist 16 New England Executive Park bobf@msi.com Burlington, MA 01803-5297 (617) 229-9800 x202 FAX (617) 229-9899 From dchin Sat May 1 13:16:03 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA08035; Sat, 1 May 93 13:16:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 1 May 93 13:16:03 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9305011716.AA08035@emperor.harvard.edu> To: mytest Subject: *Dates.. April 4th --> May 1st. Dont ask. --Donovan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Donovan Chin Phone: 617.496.6820 Fax: 617.495.9857 Harvard University e-mail dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry 12 Oxford St. Cambridge, MA 02138, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From bobf@MSI.COM Sat May 1 14:12:14 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA08083; Sat, 1 May 93 14:12:14 -0400 Received: from support (support.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21467; Sat, 1 May 93 14:04:29 EDT Received: by support (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for mytest@emperor.harvard.edu id AA06541; Sat, 1 May 93 14:08:12 -0400 Message-Id: <9305011808.AA06541@support> From: Bob Funchess Date: Sat, 1 May 1993 14:08:11 -0400 Organization: Molecular Simulations Inc. Phone: (617) 229-9800 ext. 202 To: mytest junk mail has to be more than one hunder chars. adfjkalds f fdjkadslf dsjdfkl df dsfjkl;ds f adsjkfl;ds fjdsafkl;sda fj f jkdsa;f df asdjfk;sad fsadjfk asdfjaskdlf askd;lfjsakdf as fjasdkl;fjadsk fdjdsakf;ljasdlkfjewurjvcm xkjxsenm -- Dr. Robert B. Funchess Molecular Simulations Inc. Technical Support Scientist 16 New England Executive Park bobf@msi.com Burlington, MA 01803-5297 (617) 229-9800 x202 FAX (617) 229-9899 From tidor@mycroft.wi.mit.edu Sat May 1 14:40:47 1993 Received: from mycroft.wi.mit.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA08231; Sat, 1 May 93 14:40:47 -0400 Received: by mycroft.wi.mit.edu id ; Sat, 1 May 93 14:34:46 -0400 Message-Id: <9305011834.AA22572@mycroft.wi.mit.edu> To: mytest Date: Sat, 01 May 93 14:34:46 -0400 From: tidor@mycroft.wi.mit.edu This is a test from tidor@mycroft.wi.mit.edu. There is no subject line and the message has more than 100 characters. Will Charmm-bbs2.0 reject this message? test for NO SUBJECT field Bruce From tidor@mycroft.wi.mit.edu Sat May 1 14:45:54 1993 Received: from mycroft.wi.mit.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA08281; Sat, 1 May 93 14:45:54 -0400 Received: by mycroft.wi.mit.edu id ; Sat, 1 May 93 14:39:53 -0400 Message-Id: <9305011839.AA22722@mycroft.wi.mit.edu> To: mytest Subject: test2 Date: Sat, 01 May 93 14:39:53 -0400 From: tidor@mycroft.wi.mit.edu test DISTRIBUTED message This is a test message to mytest@emperor.harvard.edu from tidor@mycroft.wi.mit.edu. Cheers, Bruce From db3q@engcd.bu.edu Sat May 1 17:05:45 1993 Received: from DARWIN.BU.EDU by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA08329; Sat, 1 May 93 17:05:45 -0400 Received: from ENGCD.BU.EDU by darwin.bu.edu (5.61+++/Spike-2.1) id AA01947; Sat, 1 May 93 17:03:55 -0500 Received: by engcd.bu.edu.bu.edu (5.61+++/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA17887; Sat, 1 May 93 17:06:20 -0400 Date: Sat, 1 May 93 17:06:20 -0400 From: db3q@engcd.bu.edu (Djamal Bouzida) Message-Id: <9305012106.AA17887@engcd.bu.edu.bu.edu> To: mytest test for NO SUBJECT field >Tests: > >(1) Will each of you send a message to mytest@emperor.harvard.edu that > is longer than 100 characters (including signatures), BUT DONT > INCLUDE A SUBJECT. > > Charmm-bbs2.0 should reject the letter and send it back to you with a > message stating why. > > Put the line "test for NO SUBJECT field" in the body of text for > this test. If anyone gets this message delivered to them, please > let me know. > > ** When you get the rejected message back from charmm-bbs2.0, > please send a note to me at: "dchin@emperor.harvard.edu" ** > -- Djamal Bouzida E-mail: db3q@engcd.bu.edu From db3q@engcd.bu.edu Sat May 1 17:08:26 1993 Received: from DARWIN.BU.EDU by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA08340; Sat, 1 May 93 17:08:26 -0400 Received: from ENGCD.BU.EDU by darwin.bu.edu (5.61+++/Spike-2.1) id AA01957; Sat, 1 May 93 17:06:36 -0500 Received: by engcd.bu.edu.bu.edu (5.61+++/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA17896; Sat, 1 May 93 17:09:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 1 May 93 17:09:01 -0400 From: db3q@engcd.bu.edu (Djamal Bouzida) Message-Id: <9305012109.AA17896@engcd.bu.edu.bu.edu> To: mytest Subject: subject goes here. test DISTRIBUTED message >next test > >(2) Now send a message to mytest@emperor.harvard.edu that HAS a > subject field. > > You may want to take this time to share any views you may have > about this bbs. I welcome any suggestions. > > Put the line " test DISTRIBUTED message" in the body of the text. > > ** When everybody receives a message from everyone else, please send a note > to me at: "dchin@emperor.harvard.edu" ** > > Probably the best thing to do here is to collect the messages from > everyone for a day or so and then send me a message stating something > like, '..received messages from person1, person2, person3....etc.' -- Djamal Bouzida E-mail: db3q@engcd.bu.edu From /PN=BORYEU.MAO/DD.ID=SSW.BMAO/PRMD=UPJOHN/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com Sun May 2 14:47:26 1993 Received: from sprintf.merit.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09270; Sun, 2 May 93 14:47:26 -0400 Received: by sprintf.merit.edu (5.64/1123-1.0-X.500) id AA18244; Sun, 2 May 93 14:44:01 -0400 Received: by sprint.com (SXG 6.0/scanf.7) with X.400 id 00ft1Ngua001; 2 May 93 18:43:29 UT Date: 2 May 93 14:27:27-0400 From: /PN=BORYEU.MAO/DD.ID=SSW.BMAO/PRMD=UPJOHN/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com To: "TELEMAIL-00000001 *" Subject: NOTE 05/02/93 14:39:00 Message-Id: <"SSW 930502142726683041"*/PN=BORYEU.MAO/DD.ID=SSW.BMAO/PRMD=UPJOHN/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com> To: OPENADDR--SSW From: boryeu mao Subject: test for NO SUBJECT field This message has more than 100 chars but no SUBJECT; it should be returned by ch-bbs. Since the address scheme for sending out the message from this site is unusual, let's hope this will come through without the SUBJECT and thus get rejected. Fingers crossed... Here it goes..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Boryeu Mao ph. 616-385-5550 facs. 616-385-7373 email /PN=BORYEU.MAO/DD.ID=SSW.BMAO/PRMD=UPJOHN/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@SPRINT.COM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From /PN=BORYEU.MAO/DD.ID=SSW.BMAO/PRMD=UPJOHN/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com Sun May 2 15:23:27 1993 Received: from sprintf.merit.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09290; Sun, 2 May 93 15:23:27 -0400 Received: by sprintf.merit.edu (5.64/1123-1.0-X.500) id AA18665; Sun, 2 May 93 15:20:03 -0400 Received: by sprint.com (SXG 6.0/scanf.7) with X.400 id 00ft1vRua001; 2 May 93 19:19:22 UT Date: 2 May 93 15:03:28-0400 From: /PN=BORYEU.MAO/DD.ID=SSW.BMAO/PRMD=UPJOHN/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com To: "TELEMAIL-00000001 *" Subject: failed 'test for NO SUBJECTfield' Message-Id: <"SSW 930502150327683101"*/PN=BORYEU.MAO/DD.ID=SSW.BMAO/PRMD=UPJOHN/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com> To: OPENADDR--SSW From: boryeu mao Subject: failed 'test for NO SUBJECTfield' To: OPENADDR--SSW 2 May 1993 (A message to Donovan, but FYI for all who must have received my 'test for NO SUBJECT field' message.) Donovan - As I suspected, my test-1 (for NOT SUBJECT field) got distributed. Our email protocol has a 'Subject' field that could not be deleted; thus I tried test-1 with a subject field but no subject in it, which was considered by your bbs setup to be a valid message to be posted. Since my test-1 actually got distributed, it WAS my 'test DISTRIBUTED message' to those participating in the new bbs testing then (as is this one). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Boryeu Mao ph. 616-385-5550 facs. 616-385-7373 email /PN=BORYEU.MAO/DD.ID=SSW.BMAO/PRMD=UPJOHN/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@SPRINT.COM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU Sun May 2 23:35:32 1993 Received: from jaguar.csc.wsu.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09435; Sun, 2 May 93 23:35:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 2 May 1993 20:32:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian W. Beck" To: mytest Cc: F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU Message-Id: <930502203202.21404399@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU> ------------------------------ CHARMM BBS ------------------------------- test for NO SUBJECT field Well here goes. I'll assume that there won't be any problems doing this, as I've had none before with other subject line controlled list servers. BTW, as of Sunday (May 2) at 8:30pm PDT I've received 4 messages from testers. bobf@msi.com tidor@mycroft.wi.mit.edu db3q@engcd.bu.edu BORYEU.MAO@sprint.com. -Brian ================================================================================ | Brian W. Beck | Disclaimer: WASHINGTON ST. UNIVERSITY is only | |--------------------| responsible for the thoughts in my head. The | | Biochem/Biophysics | gibberish that pours forth from my lips and | | WSU , 261 Fulmer | fingertips is of no consequence and should | | Pullman, WA 99164 | be ignored at all costs. | | (509) 335 - 4083 | | |--------------------------------------|---------------------------------------| | E-mail Address: |Heisenberg's Molecular Voodoo Principle| | INTERNET F0388913@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu |"If there's a CAAT in a Pribnow box, | | BITNET F0388913@WSUVMS1 | you don't know whether it's "alive" | | DECNET JAGUAR::F0388913 | and functioning until you look inside"| ================================================================================ From F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU Sun May 2 23:41:50 1993 Received: from jaguar.csc.wsu.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09446; Sun, 2 May 93 23:41:50 -0400 Date: Sun, 2 May 1993 20:38:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian W. Beck" To: mytest Cc: F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU Message-Id: <930502203824.21404399@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU> Subject: A subject for all seasons ------------------------------ CHARMM BBS ------------------------------- test DISTRIBUTED message Well here goes. I'll assume that there won't be any problems doing this, as I've had none before with other subject line controlled list servers. Donovan: my test #1 was rejected. BTW, as of Sunday (May 2) at 8:30pm PDT I've received 4 messages from testers. bobf@msi.com tidor@mycroft.wi.mit.edu db3q@engcd.bu.edu BORYEU.MAO@sprint.com. -Brian ================================================================================ | Brian W. Beck | Disclaimer: WASHINGTON ST. UNIVERSITY is only | |--------------------| responsible for the thoughts in my head. The | | Biochem/Biophysics | gibberish that pours forth from my lips and | | WSU , 261 Fulmer | fingertips is of no consequence and should | | Pullman, WA 99164 | be ignored at all costs. | | (509) 335 - 4083 | | |--------------------------------------|---------------------------------------| | E-mail Address: |Heisenberg's Molecular Voodoo Principle| | INTERNET F0388913@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu |"If there's a CAAT in a Pribnow box, | | BITNET F0388913@WSUVMS1 | you don't know whether it's "alive" | | DECNET JAGUAR::F0388913 | and functioning until you look inside"| ================================================================================ From eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Mon May 3 03:35:59 1993 Received: from benoni.Uit.No by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09515; Mon, 3 May 93 03:35:59 -0400 Received: from benoni by ppenoni.uit.no with SMTP (PP) id <12544-0@ppenoni.uit.no>; Mon, 3 May 1993 09:32:27 +0000 Received: from trypsin.Chem.Uit.No by benoni.uit.no (5.65+IDA/Babel-1.15/ABaa-1.2/Ultrix) id AAbenoni12540; Mon, 3 May 1993 09:32:22 +0200 Received: by trypsin.chem.uit.no (911016.SGI/ABaa-2.0mini) id AA28775; Mon, 3 May 93 09:33:57 GMT Date: Mon, 3 May 93 09:33:57 GMT From: eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Message-Id: <9305030933.AA28775@trypsin.chem.uit.no> To: mytest test for NO SUBJECT field This is monday morning in Tromsoe, North Norway. It is snowing outside, so it not much warm and not much looks like spring or summer. This is a test with no subject and more than 100 words, I will try to fill up CHARMM> if 2 gt 1 join SOLV s@2 renumber RDCMND substituted parameter 2 (2) : "80" Comparing "80" and "1". IF test evaluated as true. Performing command ***** LEVEL -1 WARNING FROM ***** ***** SECOND SEGMENT DOESNT FOLLOW FIRST ****************************************** BOMLEV ( -2) IS NOT REACHED. WRNLEV IS 2 CHARMM> coor stat STATISTICS FOR 3264 SELECTED ATOMS: ----------------------------------------------------- Do you know if anyone else has experienced this, I got normal termination and the system with protein together with crystallographic water and TIP3 water looks OK in QUANTA. The reason why I wanted to use CHARMm standalone is that QUANTA does not like the residue numbering for trypsin as 188, 188A 188, 188A and 221, 221A. CHARMm handles this without changing any residue numbers or renaming. Say I want to do further calculations on my solvated sytem, i) Should I minimise the bulk water first, before the whole system? ii) How do I prevent my waters for flying off by fixing only the outer layer or two of the sphere and leaving the rest of the waters free? -------- By the way, is it advicable to minimise the protein before solvating in bulk water? Do you know if anyone else has experienced this, I got normal termination and the system with protein together with crystallographic water and TIP3 water looks OK in QUANTA. The reason why I wanted to use CHARMm standalone is that QUANTA does not like the residue numbering for trypsin as 188, 188A 188, 188A and 221, 221A. CHARMm handles this without changing any residue numbers or renaming. Say I want to do further calculations on my solvated sytem, i) Should I minimise the bulk water first, before the whole system? ii) How do I prevent my waters for flying off by fixing only the outer layer or two of the sphere and leaving the rest of the waters free? -------- By the way, is it advicable to minimise the protein before solvating in bulk water? Is there other important things to be aware of in calculations (MM and MD) of a solvated sytem? Thanks in advance, Elle ####################################################### # Eldbjoerg Sofie Heimstad # # Protein Crystallography Group # # University Of Tromsoe, IMR # # 9037 Tromsoe, NORWAY phone: +47-83-45706 # # 44737 # # fax : +47-83-44765 # # E-mail: eldbjorg@trypsin.chem.uit.no # ####################################################### From arne@mango.mef.ki.se Mon May 3 03:44:06 1993 Received: from mango.mef.ki.se by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09526; Mon, 3 May 93 03:44:06 -0400 Received: by mango.mef.ki.se (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/4.03) id AA18224; Mon, 3 May 93 09:40:59 GMT Date: Mon, 3 May 93 09:40:59 GMT From: arne@mango.mef.ki.se (Arne Elofsson) Message-Id: <9305030940.AA18224@mango.mef.ki.se> To: mytest This is a test from Arne Elofsson. "test for NO SUBJECT field" Arne Elofson bla bla bla bla bla bla bla arne bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla From arne@mango.mef.ki.se Mon May 3 03:45:23 1993 Received: from mango.mef.ki.se by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09538; Mon, 3 May 93 03:45:23 -0400 Received: by mango.mef.ki.se (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/4.03) id AA34617; Mon, 3 May 93 09:42:20 GMT Date: Mon, 3 May 93 09:42:20 GMT From: arne@mango.mef.ki.se (Arne Elofsson) Message-Id: <9305030942.AA34617@mango.mef.ki.se> To: mytest Subject: Test with subjevt from Arne Elofsson This is a test from Arne Elofsson. " test DISTRIBUTED message" Arne Elofson bla bla bla bla bla bla bla arne bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla From eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Mon May 3 03:49:33 1993 Received: from benoni.Uit.No by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09548; Mon, 3 May 93 03:49:33 -0400 Received: from benoni by ppenoni.uit.no with SMTP (PP) id <12689-0@ppenoni.uit.no>; Mon, 3 May 1993 09:46:02 +0000 Received: from trypsin.Chem.Uit.No by benoni.uit.no (5.65+IDA/Babel-1.15/ABaa-1.2/Ultrix) id AAbenoni12685; Mon, 3 May 1993 09:46:00 +0200 Received: by trypsin.chem.uit.no (911016.SGI/ABaa-2.0mini) id AA28822; Mon, 3 May 93 09:47:36 GMT Date: Mon, 3 May 93 09:47:36 GMT From: eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Message-Id: <9305030947.AA28822@trypsin.chem.uit.no> To: mytest Subject: test2 test DISTRIBUTED message My first mail (test 1) was rejected from MAILER-DAEMON..... I have received 5 messages until now: Dr. Robert B. Funchess Bruce tidor@mycroft.wi.mit.ed Djamal Bouzid Boryeu Mao (as you know test1 also) Brian W. Beck It seems to work fine! -elle By the way, it is snowing outside! ####################################################### # Eldbjoerg Sofie Heimstad # # Protein Crystallography Group # # University Of Tromsoe, IMR # # 9037 Tromsoe, NORWAY phone: +47-83-45706 # # 44737 # # fax : +47-83-44765 # # E-mail: eldbjorg@trypsin.chem.uit.no # ####################################################### From rossi@watson.ibm.com Mon May 3 07:49:11 1993 Received: from watson.ibm.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09635; Mon, 3 May 93 07:49:11 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 5645; Mon, 03 May 93 07:45:47 EDT Received: from YKTVMH by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 0184; Mon, 3 May 1993 07:45:59 EDT Received: from sandcastle.watson.ibm.com by yktvmh.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 03 May 93 07:45:59 EDT Received: by sandcastle.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA50887; Mon, 3 May 1993 07:45:44 -0400 Message-Id: <9305031145.AA50887@sandcastle.watson.ibm.com> To: mytest Subject: Test1 Date: Mon, 03 May 93 07:45:44 -0500 From: "Angelo R. Rossi (914-945-2834)" Donavan: I apologize for the the delay in testing, but, as the French say "mieux vaux tard que jamais". I put this in here so that the European counterparts would think we are suave and chic. Angelo From rossi@watson.ibm.com Mon May 3 07:53:25 1993 Received: from watson.ibm.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09645; Mon, 3 May 93 07:53:25 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 5687; Mon, 03 May 93 07:50:02 EDT Received: from YKTVMH by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 0252; Mon, 3 May 1993 07:50:14 EDT Received: from sandcastle.watson.ibm.com by yktvmh.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 03 May 93 07:50:14 EDT Received: by sandcastle.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA38376; Mon, 3 May 1993 07:49:59 -0400 Message-Id: <9305031149.AA38376@sandcastle.watson.ibm.com> To: mytest Date: Mon, 03 May 93 07:49:59 -0500 From: "Angelo R. Rossi (914-945-2834)" This is test 2. This is test #2. Or is it Test number 2. If not then it must be test number two. That is all. Angelo From UCH422@unidozr.hrz.uni-dortmund.de Mon May 3 08:47:39 1993 Received: from nx1.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09674; Mon, 3 May 93 08:47:39 -0400 Received: from zx1.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE by mail.hrz.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (PP) id <11684-0@mail.hrz.uni-dortmund.de>; Mon, 3 May 1993 14:43:55 +0200 Received: by zx1.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (/\../\ Smail3.1.14.4 #14.2) id ; Mon, 3 May 93 14:44 Message-Id: Received: from unidozr.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (UCH422) by DDOHRZ11.BITNET (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id 1904; Mon, 03 May 93 14:44:07 SET Date: Mon, 03 May 93 14:43:36 SET From: wos Subject: s2 To: charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu. DEAR RYSZARD, PLEASE TELL ME THE WAY I HAVE TO ADD THE EXTRA INFORMATION ABOUT THE SHAPE MATRIX. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW I MUST DESCRIBE THIS ADDITION. IN FORTRAN CODE. FURTHERMORE I WANT TO USE THE KEYWORDS CORREL AND CORFUN TO CALCULATE CORRELATION FUNCTIONS AND MEAN SQUARE DISPLACEMENT OF CENTRE OF MASS BUT I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS IN GENERATING THE STREAM FILE FOR INSTANTS TO DEFINE THE KEYWORD ENTER IF THE SYSTEM CONTAINS MORE THAN ONE OR TWO MOLECULES. THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS TO CALCULATE ONE MOLECUL. IS IT POSSIBL TO SEND ME A STREAM FILE? WITH REGARD, BEATE WOSNIK From THOEFFEL@ELINET1.DOWELANCO.COM Mon May 3 09:11:06 1993 Received: from dowelanco.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09690; Mon, 3 May 93 09:11:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 8:02:37 -0500 (EST) From: THOEFFEL@ELINET1.DOWELANCO.COM To: mytest Message-Id: <930503080237.667@ELINET1.DOWELANCO.COM> Subject: next test (test #2) test DISTRIBUTED message. thomas From THOEFFEL@ELINET1.DOWELANCO.COM Mon May 3 09:17:19 1993 Received: from dowelanco.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09700; Mon, 3 May 93 09:17:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 8:09:06 -0500 (EST) From: THOEFFEL@ELINET1.DOWELANCO.COM To: mytest Message-Id: <930503080906.667@ELINET1.DOWELANCO.COM> ljahdfjhasfjhasdfkjhalkf ;jaadfhashjkjhsdfkjhasdfhj test for NO SUBJECT field klsdfkjdfgkjsfdfdg ;skjdfgkjsdf;gkjsd;fkj ;skjdfglkjsdf;gkjsdfk ;ksjfdkjdfg;kjsdfg;kjsdg ;ldl;kfglkjsdfljsdfg;kj ;skdfjljsdf;kjsdfkl;skjfd that should do it thomas From rossi@watson.ibm.com Mon May 3 12:13:30 1993 Received: from watson.ibm.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09781; Mon, 3 May 93 12:13:30 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 8957; Mon, 03 May 93 12:10:06 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 6565; Mon, 3 May 1993 12:10:06 EDT Received: from sandcastle.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 03 May 93 12:10:05 EDT Received: by sandcastle.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA38168; Mon, 3 May 1993 12:10:03 -0400 Message-Id: <9305031610.AA38168@sandcastle.watson.ibm.com> To: mytest Subject: This is Test2 Date: Mon, 03 May 93 12:10:02 -0500 From: "Angelo R. Rossi (914-945-2834)" Hello: This is test 2. This is TEST two. This is definitely TEST TWO. A. R. Rossi From DEERFIELD@B.PSC.EDU Mon May 3 13:18:40 1993 Received: from b.psc.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09810; Mon, 3 May 93 13:18:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 13:15:07 -0400 (EDT) From: DEERFIELD@B.PSC.EDU To: mytest Cc: DEERFIELD@B.PSC.EDU Message-Id: <930503131507.20802da1@B.PSC.EDU> test for NO SUBJECT field Have received posts from: Robert B. Funchess bobf@msi.com Bruce tidor@mycroft.wi.mit.edu Djamal Bouzida db3q@engcd.bu.edu Boryeu Mao /PN=BORYEU.MAO/DD.ID=SSW.BMAO/PRMD=UPJOHN/ ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com Brian W. Beck F0388913@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu Arne Elofsson arne@mango.mef.ki.se Eldbjoerg Sofie Heimstad eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Angelo R. Rossi rossi@watson.ibm.com From DEERFIELD@B.PSC.EDU Mon May 3 13:20:06 1993 Received: from b.psc.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09822; Mon, 3 May 93 13:20:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 13:16:40 -0400 (EDT) From: DEERFIELD@B.PSC.EDU To: mytest Message-Id: <930503131640.20802da1@B.PSC.EDU> Subject: test2 test DISTRIBUTED message Have received posts from: Robert B. Funchess bobf@msi.com Bruce tidor@mycroft.wi.mit.edu Djamal Bouzida db3q@engcd.bu.edu Boryeu Mao /PN=BORYEU.MAO/DD.ID=SSW.BMAO/PRMD=UPJOHN/ ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com Brian W. Beck F0388913@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu Arne Elofsson arne@mango.mef.ki.se Eldbjoerg Sofie Heimstad eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Angelo R. Rossi rossi@watson.ibm.com Message without subject line: ** MESSAGE REJECTED BY: mytest@emperor.harvard.edu David Deerfield deerfiel@psc.edu From ryszard@MSI.COM Mon May 3 13:53:41 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09840; Mon, 3 May 93 13:53:41 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for mytest@emperor) id AA13597; Mon, 3 May 93 13:50:12 EDT Received: from hogan.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22361; Mon, 3 May 93 13:45:44 EDT Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA01600; Mon, 3 May 1993 13:49:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 13:49:55 -0400 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9305031749.AA01600@hogan.MSI.COM> To: mytest%emperor@harvard "test for NO SUBJECT field" 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 Hopefuly it has more then 100 characters, Ryszard Czerminski, MSI From ryszard@MSI.COM Mon May 3 14:00:46 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09859; Mon, 3 May 93 14:00:46 -0400 Received: from hogan.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22391; Mon, 3 May 93 13:52:56 EDT Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15437; Mon, 3 May 1993 13:57:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 13:57:05 -0400 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9305031757.AA15437@hogan.MSI.COM> To: mytest Subject: test2 " test DISTRIBUTED message" So far (Mon May 3 13:53:41 EDT 1993) I have received 5 messages. I have promptly deleted all of them so I cannot from whom. More or less (in random order) from: bobf tidor rossi eldbjorg It seems to work so far. Ryszard Czerminski, MSI From marc@david.saclay.cea.fr Tue May 4 09:08:18 1993 Received: from mailimailo.cicb.fr by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA10194; Tue, 4 May 93 09:08:18 -0400 Received: from u-mta.mailimailo.cicb.fr (mailimailo.cicb.fr) by mailimailo.univ-rennes1.fr (5.65c8/150391); Tue, 4 May 1993 15:02:18 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=cicb/ADMD=atlas/C=FR/; Relayed; 04 May 93 15:02:18+0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=cea/ADMD=atlas/C=FR/; Relayed; 04 May 93 20:06:14-0500 Date: 04 May 93 20:06:14-0500 From: SBPM Marc GINGOLD Message-Id: <9305041906.AA03570(a)david.saclay.cea.fr> To: mytest test DISTRIBUTED message Our Lan was down for some days. Here is the reply test DISTRIBUTED message from marc. From marc@david.saclay.cea.fr Tue May 4 09:11:20 1993 Received: from mailimailo.cicb.fr by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA10207; Tue, 4 May 93 09:11:20 -0400 Received: from u-mta.mailimailo.cicb.fr (mailimailo.cicb.fr) by mailimailo.univ-rennes1.fr (5.65c8/150391); Tue, 4 May 1993 15:05:26 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=cicb/ADMD=atlas/C=FR/; Relayed; 04 May 93 15:05:26+0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=cea/ADMD=atlas/C=FR/; Relayed; 04 May 93 20:09:18-0500 Date: 04 May 93 20:09:18-0500 From: SBPM Marc GINGOLD Message-Id: <9305041909.AA03643(a)david.saclay.cea.fr> To: mytest Subject: test DISTRIBUTED message Our Lan was down for some days. We receive after returning to normal activity several test messages. Including these of mytest-request bbs is very useful. I post again my request: Is there an install.com devoted to HP ? or a machdep.f ? Bye! This was a test DISTRIBUTED message from marc. From dchin Wed May 5 14:35:52 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11207; Wed, 5 May 93 14:35:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 May 93 14:35:52 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9305051835.AA11207@emperor.harvard.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: ** Down Time. Dear subscrbers of charmm-bbs. I have been informed that the power to our chemistry building will be down from 8:00 pm tonight (wednesday 5th) till late thursday afternoon (6 th). Therefore, charmm-bbs will not be operating during this time. Regards, Donovan charmm-bbs-administrator. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Donovan Chin Phone: 617.496.6820 Fax: 617.495.9857 Harvard University e-mail dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry 12 Oxford St. Cambridge, MA 02138, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= END --> chmbbs-apr93.log <--- BEGIN --> may93.log <--- MAY93.log -- From dchin Mon May 17 17:05:47 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11313; Mon, 17 May 93 17:05:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 May 93 17:05:47 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9305172105.AA11313@emperor.harvard.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: ** NEW CHARMM-BBS ** ** Attention charmm-bbs subscribers ** The new version of the charmm-bbs is now online. *First let me give due credit. Many thanks to all of you for taking part in the test of the new charmm-bbs2.0. Many thanks Jan for help in putting this together. Here are the highlights of the new charmm-bbs(2.0): What has NOT changed: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (1) The address is still "charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu". charmm-bbs-sysop@emperor.harvard.edu for subscription info, list of subscribers etc... (2) Messages posted to charmm-bbs are still archived on a monthly basis. You can request these log files by sending a message to 'charmm-bbs-sysop@emperor.harvard.edu'. What HAS changed in the new charmm-bbs: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (1) You will now get a confirmation e-mail message stating that your message was accepted and will be distributed to charmm-bbs. (2) Messages sent to charmm-bbs are pre-processed to determine if they are acceptable and, if so, redirected to all the subscribers. The main criteria for acceptability is as follows: a. Returned mail is trapped by charmm-bbs2.0 (e.g. if a person's address is no longer valid or a machine is down somewhere). It is sent to charmm-bbs-administrator. b. Charmm-bbs2.0 now requires that you use the 'Subject' field. If you do not use the Subject field, it will send a message back to you stating why you need to use the Subject field along with your original message. c. If there are any key words such as "subscribe, please, add, remove, delete, drop" in the body of the message AND the body of text is less than 100 characters; then it is redirected to the charmm-bbs-administrator as it is probably related to a subscription status. d. If the body of the text is less than 100 characters and doesn't contain one of the keywords in (c), then it is sent to charmm-bbs-administrator. This may be contain words not acceptable for distribution to the list. NOTE: if the body of text contains personal signatures as well, it is possible that one line messages could go to the list. e. If the message is greater than 50 Kb it is rejected. Once a message has been accepted by the charmm-bbs2.0 pre- processor it will redirect to the list of subscribers. When you see this message you will have an idea on what the new distributed charmm-bbs2.0 mail will look like. ** A NOTE ON GENERAL POLICY ** ** Many of you have expressed satisfaction with this bbs, which is good. However, I would like to suggest a general policy that should be applicable to all subscribers. I would like everyone who receives responses to their posted questions, to post a summary of these responses back to charmm-bbs. This will reduce any redundancies and may even spark further discussions/questions on related topics. ** This bulletin board was created by :Donovan Chin:, it is not sponsored by MSI or Harvard (although many members of MSI and the Harvard community do participate). I only hope it serves some purpose in bringing about the general useability of charmm to a broader level. If you have any questions on the above, please let me know. Regards, Donovan Chin charmm-bbs-administrator ------------------------------------------------------------------- DONOVAN CHIN Harvard University E-mail: dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry Phone: (617) 495-9435 12 Oxford St. Fax: (617) 495-9857 Cambridge, MA 02138, USA ------------------------------------------------------------------- From brian@opus.chem.psu.edu Wed May 19 11:35:46 1993 Received: from opus.chem.psu.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA13063; Wed, 19 May 93 11:35:46 -0400 Received: by opus.chem.psu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15783; Wed, 19 May 1993 11:32:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 11:32:28 -0400 From: brian@opus.chem.psu.edu (Brian J. Toleno) Message-Id: <9305191532.AA15783@opus.chem.psu.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: A few questions How can you delete more than one fragment at a time? How can you change the number of waters of solvation in a solvation shell? We are using the old Quanta. Thanks. BT brian@opus.chem.psu.edu From MEMMS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Thu May 20 17:35:54 1993 Received: from hsdndev.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA14317; Thu, 20 May 93 17:35:54 -0400 Message-Id: <9305202135.AA14317@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: by hsdndev.harvard.edu; Thu, 20 May 93 17:32:08 -0400 Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (NJE origin MEMMS@CUNYVM) by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with RFC822 id 2836; Thu, 20 May 1993 17:31:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 May 93 17:26:46 EDT From: Mihaly Mezei Subject: Null nonbonded group? To: Charmm bb Hi, we are getting the message ***** LEVEL -3 WARNING FROM ***** ***** Null nonbond group found. Redo. while reading a parameter file. What does it mean and which part of the parameter file does it come from? This message comes after several NOTE: atom type "MNA " is removed from previous group type messages, but we got these notes earlier also without anything untoward happening. Thanks, Mihaly Mezei Mount Sinai School of MEdicine, CUNY MEMMS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU From stroop@chemie.fu-berlin.de Fri May 21 04:41:21 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA14505; Fri, 21 May 93 04:41:21 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA27287; Fri, 21 May 93 04:37:01 EDT Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from harpo.chemie.fu-berlin.de (130.133.217.4) with smtp id ; Fri, 21 May 93 10:36 MEST Received: by harpo.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) id ; Fri, 21 May 93 10:36 MES Message-Id: From: stroop@chemie.fu-berlin.de (Ralf Stroop) Subject: Multiple Terms for Dihedrals To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Date: Fri, 21 May 1993 10:36:41 +0100 (MES) Cc: stroop@chemie.fu-berlin.de (Ralf Stroop) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1514 Hi, Running CHARMm22 or MSI-CHARMm I usually get warnings caused by 'multiple terms for dihedrals', and in those cases that the multiple terms are having the same periodicity I even get an ERROR: PARRDR> Multiple terms for dihedral type CT -CT -CT -OE PARRDR> ... PARRDR> Error: Repeated TORSION parameter: INDEX 405 CODE25071790 PERIODICITY 1 * What is the purpos of having different multiple terms for dihedrals (with different periodicities)? * What's the way, CHARMm extract the right periodicity out of the parameter-file? Extract from the parameter-file: ... CT CT CT OE 0.55 1 0.0 OE CT CT CT 0.69 1 0.0 ... CT CUA1 CUA1 CT 0.56 1 0.0 CT CUA1 CUA1 CT 3.45 2 180.0 ... CH2E CUA1 CUA1 CH2E 0.56 1 0.0 CH2E CUA1 CUA1 CH2E 3.45 2 180.0 ... CT CUA2 CUA2 CT 0.56 1 0.0 CT CUA2 CUA2 CT 3.45 2 180.0 ... CT CUA3 CUA3 CT 0.56 1 0.0 CT CUA3 CUA3 CT 3.45 2 180.0 ... (These messages don't appear running the same script with CHARMm 21.3.) Thanks in advance, Ralf Stroop. --------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Stroop Werrastrasse 50 1000 Berlin 44 Germany Tel.: +49/30/6874502 Email: stroop@chemie.fu-berlin.de Freie Universitaet Berlin Institut fuer Kristallographie Takustrasse 6 1000 Berlin 33 Tel.: +49/30/8382842 --------------------------------------------------------------- From ryszard@MSI.COM Tue May 25 13:15:05 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16419; Tue, 25 May 93 13:15:05 -0400 Received: from hogan.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02229; Tue, 25 May 93 13:15:56 EDT Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13105; Tue, 25 May 1993 13:11:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 May 1993 13:11:02 -0400 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9305251711.AA13105@hogan.MSI.COM> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Multiple Terms for Dihedrals In response to Ralf Stroop question about dihedrals: >>* What is the purpos of having different multiple terms >> for dihedrals (with different periodicities)? The purpose is to describe torsion potential more exactly. Keep in mind that single sinusoid is only approximation to the real (whatever it means) torsion potential. More exact description of this potential can be made by using fourier expansion (with different periodicities). Single sinusoid is only first term of this expansion. >>* What's the way, CHARMm extract the right periodicity out >> of the parameter-file? If there are two (or more - up to six) different periodicities in parameter file, charmm is using all of them e.g. in example below used potential would have a form E(phi) = 0.56*(1+cos(phi)) + 3.45*(1+cos(2*phi+180)) >>CT CUA1 CUA1 CT 0.56 1 0.0 >>CT CUA1 CUA1 CT 3.45 2 180.0 >>CT CT CT OE 0.55 1 0.0 >>OE CT CT CT 0.69 1 0.0 Two lines above look like a bug in parameter file (e.g. repeated torsion potential with different force constant ) From these lines you are getting an error message. >>(These messages don't appear running the same script >>with CHARMm 21.3.) The reason for not getting these messages from charmm21.3 is the bug in charmm21.3, I believe. There was no checking for multiple dihedrals and the last term from parameter file was used. Sincerely, Ryszard Czerminski, MSI From becky@MSI.COM Tue May 25 14:58:16 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16529; Tue, 25 May 93 14:58:16 -0400 Received: from seavoid ([192.190.4.173]) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02460; Tue, 25 May 93 14:59:09 EDT Message-Id: <9305251859.AA02460@schizoid.msi.com> Received: by seavoid (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09000; Tue, 25 May 93 14:54:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 May 93 14:54:01 -0400 From: Becky Rone X 276 To: charmm-bbs Subject: dihedrals The repeated dihedral was a bug in QUANTA 3.2 parameters for charmm21.3. We now have a set of C-shells which sort parameters so that duplicates can more easily be found. These shells were used in preparing QUANTA 3.3, so this error does not appear in QUANTA 3.3. END --> may93.log <--- BEGIN --> jun93.log <--- JUNE93.log -- From MEMMS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Thu Jun 3 17:29:01 1993 Received: from hsdndev.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA10173; Thu, 3 Jun 93 17:29:01 -0400 Message-Id: <9306032129.AA10173@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: by hsdndev.harvard.edu; Thu, 3 Jun 93 17:25:01 -0400 Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (NJE origin MEMMS@CUNYVM) by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with RFC822 id 8490; Thu, 3 Jun 1993 17:24:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 93 17:23:50 EDT From: Mihaly Mezei Subject: Null nonbonded group To: Charmm bb Hi, we were getting the message ***** LEVEL -3 WARNING FROM ***** ***** Null nonbond group found. Redo. while reading a parameter file. The message comes after several NOTE: atom type "MNA " is removed from previous group type messages, but we got these notes earlier also without anything untoward happening. Steve Fleischman told us that this indicates that a MASS statement is missing from the RTF file. I would be curious if someone knows the precise meaning if this message, though. Mihaly Mezei Mount Sinai School of Medicine, CUNY MEMMS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU From brbrooks@helix.nih.gov Fri Jun 4 15:51:08 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11714; Fri, 4 Jun 93 15:51:08 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA15927; Fri, 4 Jun 93 15:47:11 EDT Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA18175; Fri, 4 Jun 93 15:47:06 -0400 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA03816; Fri, 4 Jun 93 15:47:06 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 15:47:06 -0400 From: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov (Bernie Brooks) Message-Id: <9306041947.AA03816@helix.nih.gov> To: MEMMS%cunyvm@harvard, charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Re: Null nonbonded group Cc: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov The meaning of the message "Null nonbond group found, redo." is that there is a group of vdw atom types that has no members. This can indicate a repeated atom type, or the establishemnt of a wildcard group followed by a series of explicit removals until the group is empty. In either case it indicates a potential problem that should be fixed. The easiest fix is to comment out the line which establishes the null group. Bernie Brooks From "PSI%SURFNET.1412007::GAIA::groot"@caos.caos.kun.nl Tue Jun 8 06:16:27 1993 Received: from caos1.caos.kun.nl by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA14658; Tue, 8 Jun 93 06:16:27 -0400 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (MBA7157) by caos.caos.kun.nl (PMDF V4.2-11 #4030) id <01GZ4VJ2WK1SA23H62@caos.caos.kun.nl>; Tue, 8 Jun 1993 12:09:21 METDST Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 12:09:21 METDST From: "PSI%SURFNET.1412007::GAIA::groot"@caos.caos.kun.nl Subject: modelling protein-peptide complexes To: CHARMM-BBS Message-Id: <01GZ4VJ2Y5WYA23H62@caos.caos.kun.nl> X-Vms-To: PSI%DATANET1.18802007370::IN%"CHARMM-BBS@EMPEROR.HARVARD.EDU" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT For some time I have been trying to model complexes between proteins and oligopeptides. I use the default charged N- and C-terminal patches for the peptides in combination with a distance dependent dielectric (including explicit water molecules is not feasible because of the large amount of peptides I want to study). However, interactions between the termini of the peptide and the protein residues seem to unrealistically dominate the binding. Does anybody recognize this problem? Does anybody has suggestions for solving this problem ? Peter Grootenhuis -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail address: grootenhuis@akzo.akzo.400net.nl ==> The "reply" or "answer" commands will NOT work for answering this mail. You need to specify the whole e-mail address. Postal address: Organon International bv --- Dr. Peter D.J. Grootenhuis --- CMC group KR1004 P.O. Box 20 --- 5340 BH OSS --- The Netherlands Phone: 31-4120-61920 --- Fax: 31-4120-62539 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From JARRINM%AM.mrgate@woods.ulowell.edu Fri Jun 11 14:00:04 1993 Received: from woods.ulowell.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA18690; Fri, 11 Jun 93 14:00:04 -0400 Received: by woods.ulowell.edu (MX V3.1C) id 24682; Fri, 11 Jun 1993 13:56:02 EDT Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 13:55:57 EDT From: JARRINM%AM.mrgate@woods.ulowell.edu To: CHARMM-BBS X-Vmsmail-To: CHARMM-BBS@EMPEROR.HARVARD.EDU Message-Id: <0096DDE8.993A89E0.24682@woods.ulowell.edu> Subject: Merging dynamics files I am trying to merge different trajectories of dynamics into one. For this I have tried to use the command MERGE, but with no succes so far. I have not been able to write the correct CHARMm sript. Does anibody knows how to do this? If so maybe you could share your script with us, or maybe give me a few pointers. Thank you. Mario Jarri'n jarrinm@woods.ulowell.edu From ryszard@MSI.COM Fri Jun 11 14:43:25 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA18743; Fri, 11 Jun 93 14:43:25 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for CHARMM-BBS@emperor) id AA13557; Fri, 11 Jun 93 14:39:22 EDT Received: from hogan.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13156; Fri, 11 Jun 93 14:39:16 EDT Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14795; Fri, 11 Jun 1993 14:39:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 14:39:13 -0400 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9306111839.AA14795@hogan.MSI.COM> To: CHARMM-BBS%emperor@harvard, JARRINM%AM.mrgate@woods.ulowell.edu Subject: Re: Merging dynamics files In standard charmm package there is test directory. Some of the files in this directory are using MERGE command (dyntest1 dyntest2 quasi stdtest trnphi). You may try to use them as an examples. Ryszard Czerminski, MSI From chind@cobalt.ulowell.edu Fri Jun 11 14:51:34 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA18782; Fri, 11 Jun 93 14:51:34 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for CHARMM-BBS@emperor) id AA13689; Fri, 11 Jun 93 14:47:31 EDT Received: by cobalt.ulowell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA07958; Fri, 11 Jun 1993 14:46:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 14:46:26 -0400 From: chind@cobalt.ulowell.edu Message-Id: <9306111846.AA07958@cobalt.ulowell.edu> To: CHARMM-BBS%emperor@harvard, JARRINM%AM.mrgate@woods.ulowell.edu Subject: Re: Merging dynamics files Try this... ...TOP OF CHARMM SCRIPT RTF'F ETC.. !Files i want to merge.. set 1 small open read unit 23 file name @1_a1.dcd open read unit 24 file name @1_a2.dcd open read unit 25 file name @1_a3.dcd open read unit 26 file name @1_a4.dcd !Name of file i want to merge the above to... open write unit 60 file name BIG_aa.dcd !Now do merge command.. merge coor firstu 23 nunit 4 skip 1 nfile 40 outputu 60 stop You will need to change nfile (number of records you expect in the output file), nunit (the number of files you are merging), and maby skip (number of records to skip in writing the output file). See the documentation file dynamc.doc in the $CHM_DATA/doc directory for more details.. --Donovan From rita@black.sci.kun.nl Wed Jun 16 10:39:46 1993 Received: from wn1.sci.kun.nl by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA27362; Wed, 16 Jun 93 10:39:46 -0400 Received: from black.sci.kun.nl by wn1.sci.kun.nl with SMTP id AA19800 (5.65c8/1.2 for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Wed, 16 Jun 1993 16:35:36 +0200 Message-Id: <199306161435.AA19800@wn1.sci.kun.nl> To: charmm-bbs Cc: rita@black.sci.kun.nl Subject: Charmm crystal builder Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 16:35:35 +0200 From: rita@black.sci.kun.nl Dear Mrs. and Mr., I am a student and I'm supposed to be working with the Charmm crystal builder, but I bumped into a fatal problem (help!): I need to know the orientation of the a-, b- and c-axes in the x, y, z carthesian coordinate system, since this orientation defines the orientation of the primary structure with respect to the a-, b- and c- axes (which define the lattice). Allmost every orientation of the primary structure in the same lattice defines a different crystal structure, so I need the information mentioned above to know which crystal structure I am building. Unfortunately there is no documentation on this. The Harvard documentation mentions that the convention used by CHARMM for orientating the crystal in real space may be found in the routine CONCOR in [.MANIP]CORMAN2.SRC, but I have no access to Charmm source files. Can someone out there please help me? Thanks in advance, Rita Bijlsma ...................... R. Bijlsma University of Nijmegen e-mail: rita@sci.kun.nl From ryszard@MSI.COM Wed Jun 16 15:31:46 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA27781; Wed, 16 Jun 93 15:31:46 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA05167; Wed, 16 Jun 93 15:27:42 EDT Received: from hogan.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18970; Wed, 16 Jun 93 15:27:28 EDT Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13469; Wed, 16 Jun 1993 15:27:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1993 15:27:26 -0400 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9306161927.AA13469@hogan.MSI.COM> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, rita@black.sci.kun.nl Subject: Re: Charmm crystal builder Please find enclosed fragment of corman.doc file which explains the orientation of unit cell vectors (abc) with respect to cartesian coordinate system (xyz). Note that the described 'coordinate convert' command is new and may not yet exists in the charmm which you have. ... 14) The CONVert command The COOR CONVert command will cause the coordinates of all defined and selected atoms to be transformed from the unit cell to cartesian coordinates or back from cartesian to fractional coordinates. Two orientations in cartesian coordinates are supported : ALIGned - in which b-vector is along y-axis and a-vector in xy-plane (this is old charmm standard) SYMMetric - in which shape matrix constructed from unit cell vectors is symmetric Two keywords in any order [FRAC|ALIG|SYMM] are required after CONVert. Unit cell parameters (a,b,c,alpha,beta,gamma) follow in the same line. (NOTE: this is different!!!) ... Ryszard Czerminski, MSI From cqsimpson@halnet.com Wed Jun 16 18:37:27 1993 Received: from interlock.halnet.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA28170; Wed, 16 Jun 93 18:37:27 -0400 Received: by interlock.halnet.com id AA16338 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 1.1 for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Wed, 16 Jun 1993 17:33:35 -0500 Received: by interlock.halnet.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Wed, 16 Jun 1993 17:33:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1993 17:35:17 -0500 From: cqsimpson@halnet.com (Charlie Simpson) Message-Id: <9306162235.AA12551@cre2> To: charmm-bbs Subject: request for charmm-bbs Cc: I would like to sign up for the CHARMM bbs. For what it's worth, Halliburton Service leads the Oil Service industry and Oil Companies in the area of Computational Chemistry/Molecular Modeling. We have very close ties with MSI and IBM and would be glad to be a part of the charmm-bbs. 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Box 1431 Phone 405/251-4564 Duncan, OK 73536-0444 Fax 405/251-3218 Life for him was an adventure, and perilous indeed, but men were not made for safe havens. -- Edith Hamilton on Aeschylus ================================================================================ From eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Thu Jun 17 07:32:14 1993 Received: from benoni.Uit.No by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA29107; Thu, 17 Jun 93 07:32:14 -0400 Received: from benoni by ppenoni.uit.no with SMTP (PP) id <01908-0@ppenoni.uit.no>; Thu, 17 Jun 1993 13:27:59 +0000 Received: from trypsin.Chem.Uit.No by benoni.uit.no (5.65+IDA/Babel-1.15/ABaa-1.2/Ultrix) id AAbenoni01904; Thu, 17 Jun 1993 13:27:55 +0200 Received: by trypsin.chem.uit.no (911016.SGI/ABaa-2.0mini) id AA04201; Thu, 17 Jun 93 13:32:12 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Jun 93 13:32:12 GMT From: eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Message-Id: <9306171332.AA04201@trypsin.chem.uit.no> To: charmm-bbs Subject: merge coor I also have problems with merging trajectory files, have tried with different values of "SKIP", but the same error message remain unchanged. These two following files has different SKIP values, is that really the problem!? -elle. ####################################################### # Eldbjoerg Sofie Heimstad # # Protein Crystallography Group # # University Of Tromsoe, IMR # # 9037 Tromsoe, NORWAY phone: +47-83-45706 # # 44737 # # fax : +47-83-44765 # # E-mail: eldbjorg@trypsin.chem.uit.no # ####################################################### From eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Thu Jun 17 07:39:41 1993 Received: from benoni.Uit.No by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA29117; Thu, 17 Jun 93 07:39:41 -0400 Received: from benoni by ppenoni.uit.no with SMTP (PP) id <01970-0@ppenoni.uit.no>; Thu, 17 Jun 1993 13:35:31 +0000 Received: from trypsin.Chem.Uit.No by benoni.uit.no (5.65+IDA/Babel-1.15/ABaa-1.2/Ultrix) id AAbenoni01966; Thu, 17 Jun 1993 13:35:26 +0200 Received: by trypsin.chem.uit.no (911016.SGI/ABaa-2.0mini) id AA04225; Thu, 17 Jun 93 13:39:43 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Jun 93 13:39:43 GMT From: eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Message-Id: <9306171339.AA04225@trypsin.chem.uit.no> To: charmm-bbs Subject: merge error Sorry, forgot the error message using "merge coor": READING TRAJECTORY FROM UNIT 50 NUMBER OF COORDINATE SETS IN FILE: 100 NUMBER OF PREVIOUS DYNAMICS STEPS: 51000 FREQUENCY FOR SAVING COORDINATES: 1000 NUMBER OF STEPS FOR CREATION RUN: 100000 TITLE> * COORDINATES AFTER EQUILIBRATION DYNAMICS TITLE> * DATE: 1/29/93 11:27:44 CREATED BY USER: eldbjorg TITLE> * ***** WARNING ***** SKIP= 1 WAS NOT A MULTIPLE OF THE FILE INTERVAL= 1000 IT HAS BEEN RESET TO 1000 ***** WARNING ***** BEGIN= 0 WAS NOT IN THE INPUT FILE IT HAS BEEN RESET TO 51000 SKIP = 1000 NBEGN = 51000 NSTEP =100000 TRAJU= 60 VCLOSE: Closing unit 50 with status "KEEP" 100 COORDINATE SETS STARTING FROM STEP NO 51000 FOR EVERY 1000 STEPS WRITTEN ON UNIT 60 VCLOSE: Closing unit 60 with status "KEEP" READING TRAJECTORY FROM UNIT 51 NUMBER OF COORDINATE SETS IN FILE: 100 NUMBER OF PREVIOUS DYNAMICS STEPS: 150500 FREQUENCY FOR SAVING COORDINATES: 500 NUMBER OF STEPS FOR CREATION RUN: 50000 ***** ERROR ***** FILES DO NOT MERGE UNIT 51 BEGINS AT 150500 INSTEAD OF 151000 *** LEVEL -1 WARNING *** BOMLEV IS 0 BOMLEV HAS BEEN SATISFIED. TERMINATING. Execution terminated due to the detection of a fatal error. -elle ####################################################### # Eldbjoerg Sofie Heimstad # # Protein Crystallography Group # # University Of Tromsoe, IMR # # 9037 Tromsoe, NORWAY phone: +47-83-45706 # # 44737 # # fax : +47-83-44765 # # E-mail: eldbjorg@trypsin.chem.uit.no # ####################################################### From @surrey.ac.uk,@central.surrey.ac.uk:chs1nt@surrey.ac.uk Thu Jun 17 11:40:58 1993 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA29230; Thu, 17 Jun 93 11:40:58 -0400 Via: uk.ac.surrey; Thu, 17 Jun 1993 15:17:24 +0100 Via: central.surrey.ac.uk; Thu, 17 Jun 93 15:15:06 BST Received: by central.surrey.ac.uk (16.6/16.2) id AA04331; Thu, 17 Jun 93 15:13:45 +0100 From: Dr Nicholas P Tomkinson Message-Id: <9306171413.AA04331@central.surrey.ac.uk> Subject: merge coor To: charmm-bbs Date: Thu, 17 Jun 93 15:13:45 BST Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] I have a similar problem with the traj read/write commands. I have previously heated over 12500 steps and (stupidly probably but isn't hindsight a wonderful thing) saved every 1000 steps in the consequent equilibration/simulation. As a result I have a simulation that starts at step 23500 and has step interval of 1000. If I try to read this it tells me that BEGIN = 23500 is not a multiple of SKIP = 1000. OK, so I know that I should have perhaps used a save of 500 steps or equilibrated for an extra 500 steps to make life easier, but is there anything to do in retrospect or should I just redo the simulation? Nick Tomkinson From parasol@netcom.com Thu Jun 17 13:10:50 1993 Received: from netcom4.netcom.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA29302; Thu, 17 Jun 93 13:10:50 -0400 Received: by netcom4.netcom.com (5.65/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id AA10677; Thu, 17 Jun 93 10:07:13 -0700 From: parasol@netcom.com (Shashi Raval) Message-Id: <9306171707.AA10677@netcom4.netcom.com> Subject: A faster version of CHARMM? To: charmm-bbs Date: Thu, 17 Jun 93 10:07:13 PDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] To all CHARMM users. Parasol Inc. has been re-organizing CHARMM to develop a truly parallelized, distributed implementation. Key to our success is, of course, the even distribution of the atoms and workload over the network of processors. This is dependent on the molecule, its environment, and the way it is being manipulated. To further our development, we would like to test our approach on real applications. Parasol would like to hear from any users who: - use large numbers of atoms, - would benefit from substantial speed up in processing time, and - would be prepared to share their scripts with us, so we can investigate the potential for our approach. If you are interested in helping, please contact Peter Hunt parasol@netcom.com Parasol inc. (408) 354 9525 -- From becky@MSI.COM Thu Jun 17 13:20:20 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA29317; Thu, 17 Jun 93 13:20:20 -0400 Received: from seavoid (seavoid.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20722; Thu, 17 Jun 93 13:16:13 EDT Message-Id: <9306171716.AA20722@schizoid.msi.com> Received: by seavoid (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05577; Thu, 17 Jun 93 13:16:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 93 13:16:03 -0400 From: Becky Rone X 276 To: charmm-bbs Subject: merge and skip For some of you having trouble the following explanation may help. As I understand it the trajectory files actually store not the originating frame, but the first stored frame. So if the first calculation after a DYNA command is the 5000 step and you are storing every 100th step, the first frame in the file is really 5100. Now I might be wrong about what I remember, but give it a try. Furthermore, I never could merge two files which were saved at different intervals. I heard that a few hardcore CHARMMites have small pieces of code which can perform this action. If you have QUANTA you might give it a chance. As I recall you can read each file in the Conformatonal Search trim the set to some interval which sets a common denominator and perform the analysis on this consistent set. If you don't have QUANTA the same logic may work. Write each trajectory at a common denominator value using skip and then merge the two files. I also vaguely remember that in some spots the skip command actually refers to the frame number not the step number at which the coordinates were written. Good Luck all. From eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Fri Jun 18 10:10:13 1993 Received: from benoni.Uit.No by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA01535; Fri, 18 Jun 93 10:10:13 -0400 Received: from benoni by ppenoni.uit.no with SMTP (PP) id <10910-0@ppenoni.uit.no>; Fri, 18 Jun 1993 16:06:03 +0000 Received: from trypsin.Chem.Uit.No by benoni.uit.no (5.65+IDA/Babel-1.15/ABaa-1.2/Ultrix) id AAbenoni10906; Fri, 18 Jun 1993 16:06:01 +0200 Received: by trypsin.chem.uit.no (911016.SGI/ABaa-2.0mini) id AA05270; Fri, 18 Jun 93 16:10:21 GMT Date: Fri, 18 Jun 93 16:10:21 GMT From: eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Message-Id: <9306181610.AA05270@trypsin.chem.uit.no> To: charmm-bbs Subject: neutral Cc: eldborg@chem.uit.no I want to make the charges of acidic, basic, N-termini and C-termini functional groups net neutral. I have changed (in the PDB file) to ARGN, ASPH, GLUH and LYSN, and tried to model N-ter and C-ter in QUANTA, but get unwanted positive charge on the protein. Is there any better way to do this, perhaps with CHARMM standalone?! Thanks in advance, -elle ####################################################### # Eldbjoerg Sofie Heimstad # # Protein Crystallography Group # # University Of Tromsoe, IMR # # 9037 Tromsoe, NORWAY phone: +47-83-45706 # # 44737 # # fax : +47-83-44765 # # E-mail: eldbjorg@trypsin.chem.uit.no # ####################################################### From ryszard@MSI.COM Fri Jun 18 10:33:13 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA01555; Fri, 18 Jun 93 10:33:13 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA08321; Fri, 18 Jun 93 10:29:07 EDT Received: from hogan.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22103; Fri, 18 Jun 93 10:28:42 EDT Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA10557; Fri, 18 Jun 1993 10:28:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 10:28:39 -0400 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9306181428.AA10557@hogan.MSI.COM> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Subject: Re: neutral Cc: eldborg@chem.uit.no With charmm standalone you can modify charges using scalar command (see scalar.doc). For example to modify charge of the first atom to -0.76 you have to issue following command scalar charge set -0.76 sele bynu 1:1 end. See also select.doc for examples how to use selection facility. Ryszard Czerminski, MSI From varma@sfu.ca Mon Jun 21 14:39:33 1993 Received: from [142.58.103.1] by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04737; Mon, 21 Jun 93 14:39:33 -0400 Received: from beaufort.sfu.ca by whistler.sfu.ca (5.65/SFU-2.0) id AA03089; Mon, 21 Jun 93 11:35:15 -0700 Received: by beaufort.sfu.ca (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA06889; Mon, 21 Jun 93 11:35:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 11:35:21 -0700 From: varma@sfu.ca Message-Id: <9306211835.AA06889@beaufort.sfu.ca> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Dynamics I have two questions concerning md simulations. 1) When running simulations in water, what is the average fluctuations observed? I usually heat for 10,000 steps and equilibrate for the same time, but always observe +/- 20 degree high low values from the intended simulation temperature (300K). 2) this concerns quanta - Does Quanta produce a random SEED when running dynamics -i.e., if you run two two dynamics, will you observe different results, or will the trajectories be identical? Thanks in advance ************************************************** Vikram Varma Dept. of Chemistry Simon Fraser University Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6. Canada Off (604) 291 5650 Fax (604) 291 3765 ************************************************** From "PSI%SURFNET.1412007::MOIRA::groot"@caos.caos.kun.nl Thu Jun 24 03:33:29 1993 Received: from caos1.caos.kun.nl by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA08663; Thu, 24 Jun 93 03:33:29 -0400 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (MBA3520) by caos.caos.kun.nl (PMDF V4.2-11 #4030) id <01GZR2GSMR00AATYZT@caos.caos.kun.nl>; Thu, 24 Jun 1993 09:24:59 METDST Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 09:24:59 METDST From: "PSI%SURFNET.1412007::MOIRA::groot"@caos.caos.kun.nl Subject: interaction function To: CHARMM-BBS Message-Id: <01GZR2GSOCV6AATYZT@caos.caos.kun.nl> X-Vms-To: PSI%DATANET1.18802007370::IN%"CHARMM-BBS@EMPEROR.HARVARD.EDU" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Dear Netters, I have a series of noncovalently bound enzyme-inhibitor complexes for which the 3D-structures have been determined/modelled. I am trying to find computational methods that will allow me to estimate the binding between the enzyme and these inhibitors. In other words: does somebody know of A VALIDATED (published) INTERACTION FUNCTION ? Are there papers in which experimentally determined binding data are correlated with calculated interaction energies? Since I am interested in both a large number and a wide variety of inhibitor structures I don't think free energy perturbation methods will help me with respect to this. Peter Grootenhuis -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail address: grootenhuis@akzo.akzo.400net.nl ==> The "reply" or "answer" commands will NOT work for answering this mail. You need to specify the whole e-mail address. Postal address: Organon International bv --- Dr. Peter D.J. Grootenhuis --- CMC group KR1004 P.O. Box 20 --- 5340 BH OSS --- The Netherlands Phone: 31-4120-61920 --- Fax: 31-4120-62539 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From belandrum@halnet.com Thu Jul 1 15:05:00 1993 Received: from interlock.halnet.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA18728; Thu, 1 Jul 93 15:05:00 -0400 Received: by interlock.halnet.com id AA08179 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 1.1 for CHARMM-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Thu, 1 Jul 1993 14:01:06 -0500 Received: by interlock.halnet.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Thu, 1 Jul 1993 14:01:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 13:55:13 -0500 From: belandrum@halnet.com (Bruce E. Landrum) Message-Id: <9307011855.AA19631@cre1> To: CHARMM-bbs Subject: subroutine to read DCDs Cc: I would like to be able to have a subroutine that I can read individual frames from a dynamic DCD file so that I can perform specialized calculations. Does anyone have such a subroutine developed already? If so, I would appreciate receiving the source code to it. Thanks, Bruce =============================================================================== Bruce E. Landrum blandrum@halnet.com Halliburton Energy Services P.O. Drawer 1431 Phone 405/251-4470 Duncan, OK 73536-0438 Fax 405/251-4155 =============================================================================== From becky@MSI.COM Thu Jul 1 16:07:08 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA18822; Thu, 1 Jul 93 16:07:08 -0400 Received: from seavoid (seavoid.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13263; Thu, 1 Jul 93 16:02:33 EDT Message-Id: <9307012002.AA13263@schizoid.msi.com> Received: by seavoid (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08686; Thu, 1 Jul 93 16:01:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 16:01:34 -0400 From: Becky Rone X 276 To: charmm-bbs Subject: dynamics trajectories Cc: support@seavoid.MSI.COM Dear Bruce: Take a look at the TRAJ READ command. It can be used very successfully to process single frames in any manner you choose. You can even write a user subroutine to perform the desired calculations on your molecule, if CHARMm does not provide the capability you what. However, CHARMm is overflowing with statistical capabilities to use on DYNAMICS. QUANTA accesses only a part of all the things that CHARMm can do. But don't overlook the analysis facility in QUANTA it can do a number of things for the analysis of DYNAMIC trajectories in an easy and convenient manner. From burkhart@rds325.goodyear.com Thu Jul 1 17:13:38 1993 Received: from goodyear.goodyear.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA00406; Thu, 1 Jul 93 17:13:38 -0400 Received: from rds325 (rds325.goodyear.com) by goodyear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09034; Thu, 1 Jul 93 17:09:45 EDT Received: by rds325 (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA18451; Thu, 1 Jul 93 17:07:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 17:07:36 -0400 From: burkhart@rds325.goodyear.com (Craig W. Burkhart) Message-Id: <9307012107.AA18451@rds325> To: charmm-bbs Subject: DCD File Formats (and other stuff...) Concerning the current round of talk on CHARMm .DCD files: - Becky is right about the TRAJ facility. It can supply you with an entire set I/O capabilities. CHARMm is full of correlation capabilities. I use it to do velocity correlations for molecular diffusion constants. It would not pay you to write your own code to do something similar. Writing a CHARMm script is much easier. - The binary .DCD format is published in MSI's doc set. See "Quanta User's Guide Supplement", Ch. 10, Part 4, pp. 155-6. MSI's DCD documentation is a bit tricky to read though -- so be careful. I had a similar thing in mind, but I want to use Mathematica to do the visualization. What I want is a 2D raster plot of time on the x-axis and a set of torsions (from say a polymer chain's backbone) on the y-axis. Each torsion would have a time set of raster cells associated with it. The value of a particular torsion would be color coded according to some natural scheme (say, the Tektronix color wheel for hue). The mapping would be done in a particular torsion's modulo 360 value. Does anyone have a Mathematica package (or any other code) to do this? Integral to this kind of visualization is reading both .DCD, .PSF files and Quanta torsion family (.tor) files. Fortunately, .PSFs and .tor are usually in ascii. DCD files are a bit more problematic... I was thinking about doing this in my spare time in the near future. But if anyone has done it already, please pass on the information. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig W. Burkhart, Ph.D The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. Senior Research Chemist Akron Technical Center E-mail: cburkhart@goodyear.com Akron, OH 44309-3531 Phone: 216.796.4431 Fax: 216.796.3947 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU Thu Jul 1 20:35:01 1993 Received: from jaguar.csc.wsu.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA01033; Thu, 1 Jul 93 20:35:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 17:30:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian W. Beck" To: charmm-bbs Cc: F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU Message-Id: <930701173043.230028c5@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU> Subject: DCD file pseudo-code Concerning the recent requests for code which reads binary .DCD files, my group and I frequently do so to generate g(r), elec-static-pot, etc data. Included below is some pseudo-fortran-code which reasonably describes the format of a .DCD file. I pretty much used this pseudo-code to act as the kernel for my first .DCD reading program. -Brian ================================================================================ | Brian W. Beck | Disclaimer: WASHINGTON ST. UNIVERSITY is only | |--------------------| responsible for the thoughts in my head. The | | Biochem/Biophysics | gibberish that pours forth from my lips and | | WSU , 261 Fulmer | fingertips is of no consequence and should | | Pullman, WA 99164 | be ignored at all costs. | | (509) 335 - 4083 | | |--------------------------------------|---------------------------------------| | E-mail Address: |Heisenberg's Molecular Voodoo Principle| | INTERNET F0388913@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu |"If there's a CAAT in a Pribnow box, | | BITNET F0388913@WSUVMS1 | you don't know whether it's "alive" | | DECNET JAGUAR::F0388913 | and functioning until you look inside"| ================================================================================ ------------------------------- CUT HERE -------------------------------------- parameter (nfrmax=500,ishmax=200,natmax=3000) implicit real*8 (a-h,o-z) character*4 hdr character*4 endmark character*80 title(20) character*80 dcdfile character*16 outfile c in dcd files all the x,y,z are saved as real not real*8 c for charmm21 real*4 x(natmax),y(natmax),z(natmax) real*4 blen,xij,yij,zij integer ICNTRL(20) c read(5,*) dcdfile open(20,file=dcdfile,form='unformatted') c c HDR for coordinate files is "CORD" c HDR for velocity files is "VELD" c icntrl(1)=NUMBER OF COORDINATE SETS IN FILE c icntrl(2)=first step written c icntrl(3)=FREQUENCY FOR SAVING COORDINATES c icntrl(4)=NUMBER OF STEPS FOR CREATION RUN c icntrl(5)=frequency for saving velocities c icntrl(6)=0 c icntrl(7)=0 c icntrl(8)=number of degrees of freedom c icntrl(9)=number of "fixed" atoms=0 c i10=number of lines in title c all the titles start with "*" c natrec=total number of atoms c nfreat=natrec-icntrl(9) c hdr='CORD' write(20) hdr,icntrl write(20) i10,(title(j),j=1,i10) write(20) natrec natomT=natrec nfix=icntrl(9) natom=natomT-nfix c iterating on time frames do 180 iframe=1,numframe if (iframe.eq.1) then write(20) (x(i),i=1,natomT) write(20) (y(i),i=1,natomT) write(20) (z(i),i=1,natomT) else write(20) (x(i+nfix),i=1,natom) write(20) (y(i+nfix),i=1,natom) write(20) (z(i+nfix),i=1,natom) endif 180 continue stop END From laaksone@csc.fi Fri Jul 2 01:33:44 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA01157; Fri, 2 Jul 93 01:33:44 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA06284; Fri, 2 Jul 93 01:29:25 EDT Received: by csc.fi id AA16191 (5.65c8+/IDA-1.4.4 for charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu); Fri, 2 Jul 1993 08:29:33 +0300 Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 08:27:43 +0300 (EET) From: Leif Laaksonen Subject: CHARMm binary DCD files To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here is the "body" of a small fortran program I use when I want to read a binary trajectory file. Observe, however, that this code does not work for a constant pressure simulation and there is no check for maximum number of atoms. But it is possible to use it and add further code to it. Cheers, -leif laaksonen ---------------cut here---------------- C C Small fortran program to scan the trajectory C C Leif laaksonen 1993 C PARAMETER (MAXATOMS = 15000) C dimension x(MAXATOMS) dimension y(MAXATOMS) dimension z(MAXATOMS) dimension icntrl(20) character FileName*256 character hdr*4 character*80 title(32) write(6,*) 'Give file name' read(5,'(A)') FileName open(unit = 21 , status = "OLD" , file = FileName , 1 form="UNFORMATTED" , ERR = 100) read(21) hdr,icntrl write(6,'(a)') 'HDR is: ',hdr write(6,*) 'Number of data sets: ',icntrl(1) read(21) ntitl,(title(i),i=1,ntitl) do i=1,ntitl write(6,'(a)') title(i) enddo read(21) natom write(6,*) 'Number of atoms: ',natom nfreat = natom - icntrl(9) write(6,*) 'Number of free atoms: ',nfreat do 5 i=1,icntrl(1) write(6,*) 'reading frame: ',i if(i .eq. 1) then read(21) (x(j),j=1,natom) read(21) (x(j),j=1,natom) read(21) (x(j),j=1,natom) else read(21) (x(j),j=1,nfreat) read(21) (x(j),j=1,nfreat) read(21) (x(j),j=1,nfreat) endif 5 continue stop 100 continue write(6,*) 'Cant open input file properly' end ---------------cut here---------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leif Laaksonen | Center for Scientific Computing | Phone: 358 0 4572378 P.O. Box 405 | Telefax: 358 0 4572302 FIN-02101 Espoo | Voice Mail: 358 486257407 FINLAND | Mail: Leif.Laaksonen@csc.fi I need a fix 'cause I'm going down Down to the bits that I left uptown Lennon/McCartney ------------------------------------------------------------------- END --> jun93.log <--- BEGIN --> jul93.log <--- JULY93.log -- From belandrum@halnet.com Thu Jul 1 15:05:00 1993 Received: from interlock.halnet.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA18728; Thu, 1 Jul 93 15:05:00 -0400 Received: by interlock.halnet.com id AA08179 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 1.1 for CHARMM-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Thu, 1 Jul 1993 14:01:06 -0500 Received: by interlock.halnet.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Thu, 1 Jul 1993 14:01:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 13:55:13 -0500 From: belandrum@halnet.com (Bruce E. Landrum) Message-Id: <9307011855.AA19631@cre1> To: CHARMM-bbs Subject: subroutine to read DCDs Cc: I would like to be able to have a subroutine that I can read individual frames from a dynamic DCD file so that I can perform specialized calculations. Does anyone have such a subroutine developed already? If so, I would appreciate receiving the source code to it. Thanks, Bruce =============================================================================== Bruce E. Landrum blandrum@halnet.com Halliburton Energy Services P.O. Drawer 1431 Phone 405/251-4470 Duncan, OK 73536-0438 Fax 405/251-4155 =============================================================================== From becky@MSI.COM Thu Jul 1 16:07:08 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA18822; Thu, 1 Jul 93 16:07:08 -0400 Received: from seavoid (seavoid.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13263; Thu, 1 Jul 93 16:02:33 EDT Message-Id: <9307012002.AA13263@schizoid.msi.com> Received: by seavoid (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08686; Thu, 1 Jul 93 16:01:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 16:01:34 -0400 From: Becky Rone X 276 To: charmm-bbs Subject: dynamics trajectories Cc: support@seavoid.MSI.COM Dear Bruce: Take a look at the TRAJ READ command. It can be used very successfully to process single frames in any manner you choose. You can even write a user subroutine to perform the desired calculations on your molecule, if CHARMm does not provide the capability you what. However, CHARMm is overflowing with statistical capabilities to use on DYNAMICS. QUANTA accesses only a part of all the things that CHARMm can do. But don't overlook the analysis facility in QUANTA it can do a number of things for the analysis of DYNAMIC trajectories in an easy and convenient manner. From burkhart@rds325.goodyear.com Thu Jul 1 17:13:38 1993 Received: from goodyear.goodyear.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA00406; Thu, 1 Jul 93 17:13:38 -0400 Received: from rds325 (rds325.goodyear.com) by goodyear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09034; Thu, 1 Jul 93 17:09:45 EDT Received: by rds325 (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA18451; Thu, 1 Jul 93 17:07:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 17:07:36 -0400 From: burkhart@rds325.goodyear.com (Craig W. Burkhart) Message-Id: <9307012107.AA18451@rds325> To: charmm-bbs Subject: DCD File Formats (and other stuff...) Concerning the current round of talk on CHARMm .DCD files: - Becky is right about the TRAJ facility. It can supply you with an entire set I/O capabilities. CHARMm is full of correlation capabilities. I use it to do velocity correlations for molecular diffusion constants. It would not pay you to write your own code to do something similar. Writing a CHARMm script is much easier. - The binary .DCD format is published in MSI's doc set. See "Quanta User's Guide Supplement", Ch. 10, Part 4, pp. 155-6. MSI's DCD documentation is a bit tricky to read though -- so be careful. I had a similar thing in mind, but I want to use Mathematica to do the visualization. What I want is a 2D raster plot of time on the x-axis and a set of torsions (from say a polymer chain's backbone) on the y-axis. Each torsion would have a time set of raster cells associated with it. The value of a particular torsion would be color coded according to some natural scheme (say, the Tektronix color wheel for hue). The mapping would be done in a particular torsion's modulo 360 value. Does anyone have a Mathematica package (or any other code) to do this? Integral to this kind of visualization is reading both .DCD, .PSF files and Quanta torsion family (.tor) files. Fortunately, .PSFs and .tor are usually in ascii. DCD files are a bit more problematic... I was thinking about doing this in my spare time in the near future. But if anyone has done it already, please pass on the information. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig W. Burkhart, Ph.D The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. Senior Research Chemist Akron Technical Center E-mail: cburkhart@goodyear.com Akron, OH 44309-3531 Phone: 216.796.4431 Fax: 216.796.3947 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU Thu Jul 1 20:35:01 1993 Received: from jaguar.csc.wsu.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA01033; Thu, 1 Jul 93 20:35:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 17:30:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian W. Beck" To: charmm-bbs Cc: F0388913@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU Message-Id: <930701173043.230028c5@JAGUAR.CSC.WSU.EDU> Subject: DCD file pseudo-code Concerning the recent requests for code which reads binary .DCD files, my group and I frequently do so to generate g(r), elec-static-pot, etc data. Included below is some pseudo-fortran-code which reasonably describes the format of a .DCD file. I pretty much used this pseudo-code to act as the kernel for my first .DCD reading program. -Brian ================================================================================ | Brian W. Beck | Disclaimer: WASHINGTON ST. UNIVERSITY is only | |--------------------| responsible for the thoughts in my head. The | | Biochem/Biophysics | gibberish that pours forth from my lips and | | WSU , 261 Fulmer | fingertips is of no consequence and should | | Pullman, WA 99164 | be ignored at all costs. | | (509) 335 - 4083 | | |--------------------------------------|---------------------------------------| | E-mail Address: |Heisenberg's Molecular Voodoo Principle| | INTERNET F0388913@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu |"If there's a CAAT in a Pribnow box, | | BITNET F0388913@WSUVMS1 | you don't know whether it's "alive" | | DECNET JAGUAR::F0388913 | and functioning until you look inside"| ================================================================================ ------------------------------- CUT HERE -------------------------------------- parameter (nfrmax=500,ishmax=200,natmax=3000) implicit real*8 (a-h,o-z) character*4 hdr character*4 endmark character*80 title(20) character*80 dcdfile character*16 outfile c in dcd files all the x,y,z are saved as real not real*8 c for charmm21 real*4 x(natmax),y(natmax),z(natmax) real*4 blen,xij,yij,zij integer ICNTRL(20) c read(5,*) dcdfile open(20,file=dcdfile,form='unformatted') c c HDR for coordinate files is "CORD" c HDR for velocity files is "VELD" c icntrl(1)=NUMBER OF COORDINATE SETS IN FILE c icntrl(2)=first step written c icntrl(3)=FREQUENCY FOR SAVING COORDINATES c icntrl(4)=NUMBER OF STEPS FOR CREATION RUN c icntrl(5)=frequency for saving velocities c icntrl(6)=0 c icntrl(7)=0 c icntrl(8)=number of degrees of freedom c icntrl(9)=number of "fixed" atoms=0 c i10=number of lines in title c all the titles start with "*" c natrec=total number of atoms c nfreat=natrec-icntrl(9) c hdr='CORD' write(20) hdr,icntrl write(20) i10,(title(j),j=1,i10) write(20) natrec natomT=natrec nfix=icntrl(9) natom=natomT-nfix c iterating on time frames do 180 iframe=1,numframe if (iframe.eq.1) then write(20) (x(i),i=1,natomT) write(20) (y(i),i=1,natomT) write(20) (z(i),i=1,natomT) else write(20) (x(i+nfix),i=1,natom) write(20) (y(i+nfix),i=1,natom) write(20) (z(i+nfix),i=1,natom) endif 180 continue stop END From laaksone@csc.fi Fri Jul 2 01:33:44 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA01157; Fri, 2 Jul 93 01:33:44 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA06284; Fri, 2 Jul 93 01:29:25 EDT Received: by csc.fi id AA16191 (5.65c8+/IDA-1.4.4 for charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu); Fri, 2 Jul 1993 08:29:33 +0300 Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 08:27:43 +0300 (EET) From: Leif Laaksonen Subject: CHARMm binary DCD files To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here is the "body" of a small fortran program I use when I want to read a binary trajectory file. Observe, however, that this code does not work for a constant pressure simulation and there is no check for maximum number of atoms. But it is possible to use it and add further code to it. Cheers, -leif laaksonen ---------------cut here---------------- C C Small fortran program to scan the trajectory C C Leif laaksonen 1993 C PARAMETER (MAXATOMS = 15000) C dimension x(MAXATOMS) dimension y(MAXATOMS) dimension z(MAXATOMS) dimension icntrl(20) character FileName*256 character hdr*4 character*80 title(32) write(6,*) 'Give file name' read(5,'(A)') FileName open(unit = 21 , status = "OLD" , file = FileName , 1 form="UNFORMATTED" , ERR = 100) read(21) hdr,icntrl write(6,'(a)') 'HDR is: ',hdr write(6,*) 'Number of data sets: ',icntrl(1) read(21) ntitl,(title(i),i=1,ntitl) do i=1,ntitl write(6,'(a)') title(i) enddo read(21) natom write(6,*) 'Number of atoms: ',natom nfreat = natom - icntrl(9) write(6,*) 'Number of free atoms: ',nfreat do 5 i=1,icntrl(1) write(6,*) 'reading frame: ',i if(i .eq. 1) then read(21) (x(j),j=1,natom) read(21) (x(j),j=1,natom) read(21) (x(j),j=1,natom) else read(21) (x(j),j=1,nfreat) read(21) (x(j),j=1,nfreat) read(21) (x(j),j=1,nfreat) endif 5 continue stop 100 continue write(6,*) 'Cant open input file properly' end ---------------cut here---------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leif Laaksonen | Center for Scientific Computing | Phone: 358 0 4572378 P.O. Box 405 | Telefax: 358 0 4572302 FIN-02101 Espoo | Voice Mail: 358 486257407 FINLAND | Mail: Leif.Laaksonen@csc.fi I need a fix 'cause I'm going down Down to the bits that I left uptown Lennon/McCartney ------------------------------------------------------------------- From W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl Tue Jul 6 11:49:41 1993 Received: from [130.89.50.60] by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA06890; Tue, 6 Jul 93 11:49:41 -0400 Received: from utctu6.ct.utwente.nl by ct.utwente.nl with SMTP id AA10140 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Tue, 6 Jul 1993 17:43:33 +0200 Received: by utctu6.ct.utwente.nl (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @utct.ct.utwente.nl:quanta-l@msi.com id AA06185; Tue, 6 Jul 93 17:41:17 +0100 From: W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl (Willem Paul van Hoorn) Message-Id: <9307061641.AA06185@utctu6.ct.utwente.nl> Subject: Calculating dihedral angles within CHARMm To: charmm-bbs, quanta-l@msi.com Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 17:41:11 +0000 (WDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1112 Dear Netters, Does anyone know how to calculate -within charmm- dihedral angles? I have a script that produces a lot of structures, so it is not possible for me to calculate manually the dihedral angles with Quanta. In the file miscom.doc I found the following reference: Quick command substitution paramteters: 'XVAL' - X position of group of atoms 'YVAL' - X position of group of atoms 'ZVAL' - X position of group of atoms 'DIST' - Distance between two atom analysis 'THET' - Angle for three atom analysis 'PHI ' - Dihedral for four atom analysis The 'PHI ' command seems the one I need, but I can't get it working with ?phi substitutions. Thanks in advance, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (Ir.) Willem Paul van Hoorn University of Twente e-mail: wphoorn@ct.utwente.nl Organic Chemistry Department phone : (NL)53-892955 P.O. Box 217 (NL)53-892980 7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands fax : (NL)53-356024 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From arne@mango.mef.ki.se Wed Jul 7 04:01:18 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA07981; Wed, 7 Jul 93 04:01:18 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA19546; Wed, 7 Jul 93 03:56:54 EDT Received: by mango.mef.ki.se (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/4.03) id AA18113; Wed, 7 Jul 93 09:56:30 GMT Message-Id: <9307070956.AA18113@mango.mef.ki.se> To: W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl (Willem Paul van Hoorn) Cc: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, quanta-l@msi.com, arne@mango.mef.ki.se Subject: Re: Calculating dihedral angles within CHARMm In-Reply-To: (Your message of Tue, 06 Jul 93 17:41:11 GMT.) <9307061641.AA06185@utctu6.ct.utwente.nl> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 93 09:56:29 +0000 From: 'Arne Elofsson (arne@mango.mef.ki.se)' The best way to do this (if there are many structures) is to put all coordinates into a trajectory and then use correl. I think you also might try to use IC (intcor) it should work I think. arne PS. I have a flex (or fortran) file that puts a number of files into a trajectory. (if you are interested) From Don_Gregory@MSI.COM Wed Jul 7 14:33:59 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA08534; Wed, 7 Jul 93 14:33:59 -0400 Received: from msi.com (macpolygen.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13590; Wed, 7 Jul 93 14:29:33 EDT Message-Id: <9307071829.AA13590@schizoid.msi.com> Date: 7 Jul 1993 14:28:51 +0000 From: "Don Gregory" Subject: contouring surfaces To: "CHARMM BBS" , "Quanta BBS" Subject: Time:2:17 PM OFFICE MEMO contouring surfaces Date:7/7/93 There's been some interesting discussion recently regarding how to contour properties on the surface of molecules within Quanta; with some excellent suggestions given by Bruce Bush at Merck. Anyone interested can also review a fortran program written by Rod Hubbard, to do the same kind of thing, but with respect to a number of interesting properties. The program is still somewhat under development, but the full source code, and include files are available in $QNT_ROOT/user_group_files/Hubbard.92-06-22 and the program name is "proprty.f" When you run this program, you supply an msf name, a parameter file name ($HYD_LIB/param.par) a grid step size, and an 'option'. Try this and see what you think. It would be quite useful to get some feedback as to the properties users would like to see included, not only in a program of this nature, but when such functionality is to be added to Quanta in the future, what capabilities would be of greatest use. Don Gregory Mgr. Appl. Sci. MSI From GRIMB@caos.caos.kun.nl Thu Jul 8 05:48:04 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11168; Thu, 8 Jul 93 05:48:04 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA17793; Thu, 8 Jul 93 05:43:38 EDT Received: from caos.caos.kun.nl by caos.caos.kun.nl (PMDF V4.2-11 #4030) id <01H0AR81W3QOAC2Z04@caos.caos.kun.nl>; Thu, 8 Jul 1993 11:40:56 METDST Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 11:40:56 METDST From: GRIMB@caos.caos.kun.nl Subject: image keywords To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Message-Id: <01H0AR81YS76AC2Z04@caos.caos.kun.nl> X-Vms-To: IN%"charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello, I have some problems with the image specs keywords. I can't find information about the INVErse and NOINVerse keywords in the CHARMm manual or the documents. Can somebody explain the function of these keywords to me? Reinier Grimbergen ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- RIM Labatory of Solid State Chemistry University of Nijmegen Toernooiveld 6525 ED Nijmegen The Netherlands ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ryszard@MSI.COM Fri Jul 9 10:43:07 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA13747; Fri, 9 Jul 93 10:43:07 -0400 Received: from hogan.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20560; Fri, 9 Jul 93 10:38:42 EDT Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14978; Fri, 9 Jul 1993 10:38:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 10:38:39 -0400 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9307091438.AA14978@hogan.MSI.COM> To: charmm-bbs Subject: hexagonal water box Does anybody have a way to construct, with charmm, hexagonal water box which would be useful for DNA hydration (or even better, ready charmm script to do just that ?) All hints will be highly appreciated. Ryszard Czerminski, MSI From burkhart@goodyear.com Fri Jul 9 11:10:18 1993 Received: from goodyear.goodyear.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA13768; Fri, 9 Jul 93 11:10:18 -0400 Received: from rdsrv2 ([163.243.17.6]) by goodyear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16186; Fri, 9 Jul 93 11:06:17 EDT Received: from rds325 by rdsrv2 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28185; Fri, 9 Jul 93 11:05:18 EDT Received: by rds325 (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA25953; Fri, 9 Jul 93 11:04:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 11:04:03 -0400 From: burkhart@goodyear.com (Craig W. Burkhart) Message-Id: <9307091504.AA25953@rds325> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Hexagonal Water Box I'm not sure about what is meant by a hexagonal water box. Do you mean a monoclinic unit cell with the setting angle = 120.0 degrees? If so, then this would not be any different than setting up a solvent box with a cubic cell. Just set your box with the crystal parameters, set the molecules in the box, and do the standard minimization and equilibrations with the periodic boundary conditions... Does that answer your question? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig W. Burkhart, Ph.D The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. Senior Research Chemist Akron Technical Center E-mail: cburkhart@goodyear.com Akron, OH 44309-3531 Fone: 216.796.4431 Fax: 216.796.3947 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled" - Feynman -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From burkhart@goodyear.com Fri Jul 9 13:30:18 1993 Received: from goodyear.goodyear.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA13893; Fri, 9 Jul 93 13:30:18 -0400 Received: from rdsrv2 ([163.243.17.6]) by goodyear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16728; Fri, 9 Jul 93 13:26:21 EDT Received: from rds325 by rdsrv2 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00697; Fri, 9 Jul 93 13:25:22 EDT Received: by rds325 (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA26446; Fri, 9 Jul 93 13:24:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 13:24:07 -0400 From: burkhart@goodyear.com (Craig W. Burkhart) Message-Id: <9307091724.AA26446@rds325> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Free Energies of Solvation I am in need of calculating the free energy of solvation for a two-molecule complex in the presence of a hydrocarbon solvent. What is the best way of computing the free energy. If someone is an expert in perturbation and/or thermodynamic integration, could you possibly send me an example CHARMm script -- or a stepwise approach to writing the script? Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig W. Burkhart, Ph.D The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. Senior Research Chemist Akron Technical Center E-mail: cburkhart@goodyear.com Akron, OH 44309-3531 Fone: 216.796.4431 Fax: 216.796.3947 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled" - Feynman -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu Tue Jul 13 15:53:01 1993 Received: from mace.cc.purdue.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA17196; Tue, 13 Jul 93 15:53:01 -0400 Received: by mace.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA29602; Tue, 13 Jul 93 14:48:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Jul 93 14:48:32 -0500 From: wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu (mark wahle) Message-Id: <9307131948.AA29602@mace.cc.purdue.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Extracting atomic coordinates from CHARMm images I need to know whether I can get the atomic coordinates from images created in CHARMm. I have created a crystal lattice using CHARMm images with the CRYSTAL DEFINE and CRYSTAL READ commands. After the lattice is formed and some atoms on the real residue are rotated, I calculate the energy and minimize the entire lattice, images included. What I need to do is get the atomic coordinates from the images after the minimization. Right now all I get are the atomic coordinates from the real residue. I have talked with people at MSI who help with Quanta problems, but they are unaware of a way to do this in CHARMm. The only way they know how to do it is if I retain the copies when I exit from the crystal builder. I am running all of these commands in a CHARMm script file. Any help received is greatly appreciated! Mark C. Wahle Department of Medicinal Chemistry Purdue University e-mail : wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu From raman@bioc01.uthscsa.edu Tue Jul 13 17:22:42 1993 Received: from thorin.uthscsa.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA17905; Tue, 13 Jul 93 17:22:42 -0400 Received: from bioc01.uthscsa.edu by thorin.uthscsa.edu with SMTP; Tue, 13 Jul 1993 16:18:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bioc01.uthscsa.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09113; Tue, 13 Jul 93 16:18:47 CDT From: raman@bioc01.uthscsa.edu (C.S.RAMAN) Message-Id: <9307132118.AA09113@bioc01.uthscsa.edu> Subject: GROMOS To: charmm-bbs Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 16:18:46 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL3] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 992 Hi Is anyone aware of a mailing list like this one for the users of the program GROMOS? I have an email address to obtain the distribution but none for a listserv! Any information regarding this would be highly appreciated! Thanks -raman -- C.S.Raman raman@bioc01.uthscsa.edu - Internet UNIX Programming & Administration 70412.2354@compuserve.com - CIS SPARC & SGI Systems raman@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu - CHPC Department of Biochemistry craman@launchpad.unc.edu UTHSCSA 7703 Floyd Curl Dr. (210) 567-6623 [Tel] San Antonio, TX 78284-7760 (210) 567-6595 [Fax] ****************************************************************************** If a man's wit be wandering, let him study the Mathematics -Francis Bacon ****************************************************************************** From bobf@MSI.COM Tue Jul 13 17:34:18 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA17936; Tue, 13 Jul 93 17:34:18 -0400 Received: from support (support.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07602; Tue, 13 Jul 93 17:29:50 EDT Received: by support (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA16288; Tue, 13 Jul 93 17:29:29 -0400 Message-Id: <9307132129.AA16288@support> From: Bob Funchess Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 17:29:27 -0400 Organization: Molecular Simulations Inc. Phone: (617) 229-9800 ext. 202 To: charmm-bbs Subject: Coordinates of image transformations Depending on how one defines the images it is possible to get the coordinates of any given transformation. The commands to use are a combination of COOR OPER and PRINT COOR. The following example assumes the P-1 space group. CRYS DEFI TRICLINIC 10.0 10.0 10.0 90.0 90.0 90.0 READ IMAGE CARD INIT FREE * IMAGE TRANSFORMATIONS * IMAGE X IMAGE XNEG NEGA X END COOR OPER XNEG SELE ALL END PRINT COOR If you wanted to do several transforms you could set up some sort of loop and use COOR COPY / COOR COPY COMP to restore the 'original' coordinates in between the transformations. Bob Funchess -- Dr. Robert B. Funchess Molecular Simulations Inc. Technical Support Scientist 16 New England Executive Park bobf@msi.com Burlington, MA 01803-5297 (617) 229-9800 x202 FAX (617) 229-9899 From dchin Tue Jul 13 17:57:27 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA18035; Tue, 13 Jul 93 17:57:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 13 Jul 93 17:57:27 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9307132157.AA18035@emperor.harvard.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: writing xtal coor. A simple way to write out coor of the transformations of a asymetric unit is to type: {assuming you have generated the neccessary images} update imgfrq 20 cutim 999.0 imgfrq 20 open write unit 9 card name @2_img.crd write coor image unit 9 card * img * It is important to have used "update imgfrq 20 cutim 999.0 imgfrq 20" as this keys the "write coor image" to do just that. --D ------------------------------------------------------------------- DONOVAN CHIN Harvard University E-mail: dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry Phone: (617) 495-9435 12 Oxford St. Fax: (617) 495-9857 Cambridge, MA 02138, USA ------------------------------------------------------------------- From becky@MSI.COM Tue Jul 13 19:39:46 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA18264; Tue, 13 Jul 93 19:39:46 -0400 Received: from seavoid (seavoid.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07889; Tue, 13 Jul 93 19:35:17 EDT Message-Id: <9307132335.AA07889@schizoid.msi.com> Received: by seavoid (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03450; Tue, 13 Jul 93 19:34:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 13 Jul 93 19:34:30 -0400 From: Becky Rone X 276 To: charmm-bbs Subject: images Try WRITE COOR ..... IMAGES. I think that will do it. From wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu Wed Jul 14 12:23:22 1993 Received: from mace.cc.purdue.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA18678; Wed, 14 Jul 93 12:23:22 -0400 Received: by mace.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA00922; Wed, 14 Jul 93 11:18:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 93 11:18:49 -0500 From: wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu (mark wahle) Message-Id: <9307141618.AA00922@mace.cc.purdue.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: CHARMm Images thanks To all who sent in answer to my CHARMm crystal images question, thank you. I am presently attempting to change my script file to include the suggestions made by various individuals. I will inform you on how it works out. Due to my present schedule, it may not be until next week, but stay tuned. (Sorry for the incorrect English above.) Mark C. Wahle Deparment of Medicinal Chemistry Purdue University E-mail: wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu From MEMMS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Thu Jul 15 17:11:45 1993 Received: from hsdndev.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA22633; Thu, 15 Jul 93 17:11:45 -0400 Message-Id: <9307152111.AA22633@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: by hsdndev.harvard.edu; Thu, 15 Jul 93 17:07:09 -0400 Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (NJE origin MEMMS@CUNYVM) by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with RFC822 id 5777; Thu, 15 Jul 1993 17:06:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 17:00:23 EDT From: Mihaly Mezei Subject: RTF angles To: CHARMM BB We generated an alpha helix (phi=-61 deg, psi=-41.6 deg, omega= 180 deg) with Charmm, using the new and old RTF's. Using the new, however, gave a structure, that, once brought up in Quanta, did not have the proper hydrogen-bond pattern. Upon inspection of the RTF's, it seems that the old RFT was AUTOGENERATing the angles, while the new gave them explicitely with IC statements, and as such, thes should indeed be 'better'. So, the question is, how does one generate a decent alpha helix with the new RTF, one that has the hydrogen bonds we all read about in the textbooks? Mihaly Mezei Mount Sinai School of Medicine, CUNY From benhamou@lynx.dac.neu.edu Fri Jul 16 16:32:42 1993 Received: from lynx.dac.neu.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA23815; Fri, 16 Jul 93 16:32:42 -0400 Received: by lynx.dac.neu.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17943; Fri, 16 Jul 1993 16:27:06 -0400 Message-Id: <9307162027.AA17943@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Subject: subscribe To: charmm-bbs Date: Fri, 16 Jul 93 16:27:05 EDT From: Said Benhamou Cc: benhamou@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Said Benhamou) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Subscribe To whom it may concern, Please subscribe me to this group. Thank you very much. -- o__ Said Benhamou _.>/ _ E-Mail: benhamou@lynx.dac.neu.edu (_) \(_) From tennant%hau410.uk.smithkline.com@smithkline.com Tue Jul 20 05:16:38 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA26641; Tue, 20 Jul 93 05:16:38 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA14214; Tue, 20 Jul 93 05:11:41 EDT Received: by hau410.uk.smithkline.com (921113.SGI.UNSUPPORTED_PROTOTYPE/921111.SGI.ANONFTP) for charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu id AA03109; Tue, 20 Jul 93 10:11:22 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 10:04:27 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Tennant Subject: harmonic constraints To: Charmm Bulletin Board Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi All, Can anybody help me with a quick question? If one uses the comparison coordinates to constrain atoms with the cons harm keyword, does running dynamics simulations overwrite the constraints (ie when the velocities are written to the comparison coords). If so, is there any way around this? Any answers would be most appreciated! cheers, Mike. _____________________________________________________________________________ | _____ ____ || SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals Ltd | | / ___\\\\ _ \ || Coldharbour Rd | | | |___ \\|_| | || Harlow | | \____ \ | _ < || Essex | | ___| | | |_| | || CM19 5AD | | \_____/ |____/ || England | | || Harlow (0279) 622000x3328 | |_____________________________________________________________________________| | Mike Tennant | | Email: tennant%hau410.uk.smithkline.com@phinet.smithkline.com | |*****************************************************************************| | God is real, unless declared integer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------| From eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Tue Jul 20 09:18:14 1993 Received: from benoni.Uit.No by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA27206; Tue, 20 Jul 93 09:18:14 -0400 Received: from benoni by ppenoni.uit.no with SMTP (PP) id <01073-0@ppenoni.uit.no>; Tue, 20 Jul 1993 15:12:45 +0000 Received: from trypsin.Chem.Uit.No by benoni.uit.no (5.65+IDA/Babel-1.15/ABaa-1.2/Ultrix) id AAbenoni01069; Tue, 20 Jul 1993 15:12:43 +0200 Received: by trypsin.chem.uit.no (911016.SGI/ABaa-2.0mini) id AA02153; Tue, 20 Jul 93 15:18:55 GMT Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 15:18:55 GMT From: eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Message-Id: <9307201518.AA02153@trypsin.chem.uit.no> To: charmm-bbs Subject: PDB format Cc: eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Has anyone experienced problem with reading PDB files created by "FRODO" or "CHAIN" in CHARMm? Thanks in advance, elle ####################################################### # Eldbjoerg Sofie Heimstad # # Protein Crystallography Group # # University Of Tromsoe, IMR # # 9037 Tromsoe, NORWAY phone: +47-83-45706 # # 44737 # # fax : +47-83-44765 # # E-mail: eldbjorg@trypsin.chem.uit.no # ####################################################### From mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com Tue Jul 20 10:42:04 1993 Received: from phinet.smithkline.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA27281; Tue, 20 Jul 93 10:42:04 -0400 Received: from FRGEN.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by smithkline.com (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA26880; Tue, 20 Jul 93 10:29:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 10:29:27 -0400 Message-Id: <9307201429.AA26880@smithkline.com> From: mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com To: charmm_bbs@smithkline.com.local Subject: RE: pdb from FRODO Re: Reading in FRODO PDB files... Check that FRODO writes out the segid in cols 73-76. This is non- standard pdb, but CHARMm insists on it. If this is the problem...... Try importing into Quanta (I'm assuming you have it!) and exporting as a "CHARMm/XPLOR pdb" file. If you are a unix user, I have a csh/awk script to format and "ordinary" pdb file for use with CHARMm. I can put in on the net if anyone is interested. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | _____ ____ || SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals Ltd | | / ___\\\\ _ \ || Brockham Park | | | |___ \\|_| | || Tim Mitchell (Comp. Chem.) Betchworth | | \____ \ | _ < || Phone (0)737 36 4535 Surrey | | ____| | | |_| | || Fax. (0)737 36 4539 RH3 7AJ | | \_____/ |____/ || mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com U.K. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --end-- ------------------------------------------------------------------- DONOVAN CHIN Harvard University E-mail: dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry Phone: (617) 495-9435 12 Oxford St. Fax: (617) 495-9857 Cambridge, MA 02138, USA ------------------------------------------------------------------- From belandrum@halnet.com Tue Jul 20 11:52:22 1993 Received: from interlock.halnet.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA27373; Tue, 20 Jul 93 11:52:22 -0400 Received: by interlock.halnet.com id AA03351 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 1.1 for CHARMM-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Tue, 20 Jul 1993 10:45:46 -0500 Received: by interlock.halnet.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Tue, 20 Jul 1993 10:45:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 10:41:25 -0500 From: belandrum@halnet.com (Bruce E. Landrum) Message-Id: <9307201541.AA16808@cre1> To: CHARMM-bbs Subject: scripts, etc. Cc: The awk script sounds like the type of thing that MSI should be encouraging their users to provide to their bbs for ftp. That way users don't have to reinvent the wheel. =============================================================================== Bruce E. Landrum blandrum@halnet.com Halliburton Energy Services P.O. Drawer 1431 Phone 405/251-4470 Duncan, OK 73536-0438 Fax 405/251-4155 =============================================================================== From mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com Wed Jul 21 05:29:29 1993 Received: from phinet.smithkline.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA27766; Wed, 21 Jul 93 05:29:29 -0400 Received: from FRGEN.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by smithkline.com (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA05603; Wed, 21 Jul 93 05:13:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 05:13:55 -0400 Message-Id: <9307210913.AA05603@smithkline.com> From: mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com To: charmm_bbs@smithkline.com.local Subject: csh and awk scripts for CHARMm pdb files # # A csh procedure to convert pdb files into something CHARMm will like # Usage: pdb_charmm filespec # Where filespec is the pdb files to be re-formatted. # Wildcards etc. can be used # re-formatted files haver their root names upper-cased # # For a small molecule, will set the segid to the resname # optionally, if the resid does not start at one, the output file # can be written with the (first) resid as one. # If there are different residues in the file, the segid will be set to # SEG1, though I guess it would be easy enough to prompt for it # # Enjoy !! (and if any *real* unix weenies want to "perfect" # the scripts, please send me a copy !) # # T. Mitchell Feb 1993 mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com # echo -n "Enter a target directory ( for current) > " set temp = ($<) setenv tdir $temp if (`printenv tdir` == "") then echo "CHARMm format pdb files -> "$cwd else setenv tdir $tdir"/" echo "CHARMm format pdb files -> "$tdir endif set file1 = $1 set rec1 = (`cut -f1 -d" " $file1`) set resid = (`cut -c18-21 $file1`) set resno = (`cut -c25-26 $file1`) echo rec1 is $rec1[1] echo resid is $resid[1] echo resno is $resno[1] set ans = "" if ($resno[1] != 1) then echo "The residue no. does not start at 1," echo -n "Do you want to renumber all residues to 1 (y/n) [y] > " set ans = $< if ($ans != "n") set ans = "y" endif set count = 0 set segid = $resid[1] foreach r($rec1) echo count r $count $r echo "resid(count) $resid[$count]" @ count ++ if ( $r == "TER" || $r == "CONECT" ) then echo TER or CONECT found break else if ($count > 1 && $r == "ATOM") then if ($prev != $resid[$count])then echo "Resids are different, segid set to SEG1" set segid = SEG1 break endif endif set prev = $resid[$count] end echo segid $segid foreach i($argv) if (! -r $i) then echo $i not found continue endif setenv ext $i:e setenv root $i:r setenv ucroot `echo $root | tr '[a-z]' '[A-Z]'` echo $tdir$ucroot'.'$ext if ($ans == "y") then nawk -f /usr/scripts/awk2_pdb $i > $tdir$ucroot'.'$ext else if ($segid == "") then nawk -f /usr/scripts/awk_pdb $i > $tdir$ucroot'.'$ext else nawk -f /usr/scripts/awk1_pdb $i > $tdir$ucroot'.'$ext endif end #[End of pdb_charmm] # Here are the awk scripts -- you will have to extract them to files # awk_pdb, awk1_pdb, awk2_pdb respectively. # I can't remember why there should be different scripts, and they # look to be the same for me, but it seems to work OK! # awk_pdb { if ($1 == "ATOM") printf ("%4s%7d %4-s %4-s%5d %8.3f%8.3f%8.3f%18s%4-s\n", \ $1,$2," "$3,$4,"1",$6,$7,$8," ",$4) else print $0 } # awk1_pdb { if ($1 == "ATOM") printf ("%4s%7d %4-s %4-s%5d %8.3f%8.3f%8.3f%18s%4-s\n", \ $1,$2," "$3,$4,"1",$6,$7,$8," ",$4) else print $0 } # awk2_pdb { if ($1 == "ATOM") printf ("%4s%7d %4-s %4-s%5d %8.3f%8.3f%8.3f%18s%4-s\n", \ $1,$2," "$3,$4,"1",$6,$7,$8," ",$4) else print $0 } From YAMAMURA%CGF@Arizona.edu Wed Jul 21 16:25:46 1993 Received: from Osprey.Telcom.Arizona.EDU by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA28282; Wed, 21 Jul 93 16:25:46 -0400 Received: from Arizonet (YAMAMURA@CGF) by Arizona.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2381) id <01H0T082R59SA8C2S0@Arizona.edu>; Wed, 21 Jul 1993 13:20:58 MST Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 13:20:58 -0700 (MST) From: YAMAMURA%CGF@Arizona.edu Subject: Looking for information on charmm on DEC alphas To: charmm-bbs Message-Id: <01H0T082TAFMA8C2S0@Arizona.edu> X-Vms-To: @CHARMM.POST X-Vms-Cc: YAMAMURA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Does anyone out there know about the availability of charmm2X on DEC alphas? If so, which operating system? (OPen VMS or OSF/1). Would an alpha 3000 model 300 with monochrome monitor and 32 mb of memory support charmm2X if the implementation exists or is an implementation being considered for the near future? WOuld really appreciate hearing what you know about these questions. Responses can be send directly to yamamura@cgf.chem.Arizona.EDU and I will summarize back to the list. Thanks very much. Susan Yamamura From mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com Fri Jul 23 04:44:17 1993 Received: from phinet.smithkline.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA29969; Fri, 23 Jul 93 04:44:17 -0400 Received: from FRGEN.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by smithkline.com (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA27838; Fri, 23 Jul 93 04:25:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 93 04:25:32 -0400 Message-Id: <9307230825.AA27838@smithkline.com> From: mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com To: charmm_bbs@smithkline.com.local Subject: PDB --> CHARMm PDB format # # Ooops, A couple of goofs in the last file I sent ( in the awk scripts) # This should fix it -- apologies for any inconvenience. # # A csh procedure to convert pdb files into something CHARMm will like # Usage: pdb_charmm filespec # Where filespec is the pdb files to be re-formatted. # Wildcards etc. can be used # re-formatted files haver their root names upper-cased # # For a small molecule, will set the segid to the resname # optionally, if the resid does not start at one, the output file # can be written withe the (first) resid as one. # If there are different residues in the file, the segid will be set to # SEG1, though I guess it would be easy enough to prompt for it # # Enjoy !! -- and if any *real* unix weenies want to enhance # this script -- send me a copy ! # # T. Mitchell Feb 1993 mitchell_t%frgen.dnet%smithkline.com # echo -n "Enter a target directory ( for current) > " set temp = ($<) setenv tdir $temp if (`printenv tdir` == "") then echo "CHARMm format pdb files -> "$cwd else setenv tdir $tdir"/" echo "CHARMm format pdb files -> "$tdir endif set file1 = $1 set rec1 = (`cut -f1 -d" " $file1`) set resid = (`cut -c18-21 $file1`) set resno = (`cut -c25-26 $file1`) echo rec1 is $rec1[1] echo resid is $resid[1] echo resno is $resno[1] set ans = "" if ($resno[1] != 1) then echo "The residue no. does not start at 1," echo -n "Do you want to renumber all residues to 1 (y/n) [y] > " set ans = $< if ($ans != "n") set ans = "y" endif set count = 0 set segid = $resid[1] foreach r($rec1) echo count r $count $r echo "resid(count) $resid[$count]" @ count ++ if ( $r == "TER" || $r == "CONECT" ) then echo TER or CONECT found break else if ($count > 1 && $r == "ATOM") then if ($prev != $resid[$count])then echo "Resids are different, segid set to SEG1" set segid = SEG1 break endif endif set prev = $resid[$count] end echo segid $segid foreach i($argv) if (! -r $i) then echo $i not found continue endif setenv ext $i:e setenv root $i:r setenv ucroot `echo $root | tr '[a-z]' '[A-Z]'` echo $tdir$ucroot'.'$ext if ($ans == "y") then nawk -f awk2_pdb $i > $tdir$ucroot'.'$ext else if ($segid == "") then nawk -f awk_pdb $i > $tdir$ucroot'.'$ext else nawk -f awk1_pdb $i > $tdir$ucroot'.'$ext endif end #[End of pdb_charmm] # Here are the awk scripts -- you will have to extract them to files # awk_pdb, awk1_pdb, awk2_pdb respectively. # awk_pdb -- resid and sedid from input file { if ($1 == "ATOM") printf ("%4s%7d%1s%4-s %4-s%5d %8.3f%8.3f%8.3f%18s%4-s\n", \ $1,$2," "$3,$4,$5,$6,$7,$8," ",$4) else print $0 } #[end of awk_pdb] # awk1_pdb -- resid from input file, segid --> SEG1 { if ($1 == "ATOM") printf ("%4s%7d%1s%4-s %4-s%5d %8.3f%8.3f%8.3f%18s%4-s\n", \ $1,$2," ",$3,$4,$5,$6,$7,$8," ","SEG1") else print $0 } #[end of awk1_pdb] # awk2_pdb -- resid --> 1, segid from input file { if ($1 == "ATOM") printf ("%4s%7d%1s%4-s %4-s%5d %8.3f%8.3f%8.3f%18s%4-s\n", \ $1,$2," "$3,$4,"1",$6,$7,$8," ",$4) else print $0 } #[end of awk2_pdb] #[EOF] From mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com Mon Jul 26 04:54:14 1993 Received: from phinet.smithkline.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA02887; Mon, 26 Jul 93 04:54:14 -0400 Received: from FRGEN.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by smithkline.com (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA21409; Mon, 26 Jul 93 04:16:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 04:16:48 -0400 Message-Id: <9307260816.AA21409@smithkline.com> From: mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com To: charmm_bbs@smithkline.com.local Subject: Stirring MSI into action I've noticed with interest the complaints about MSI documentation -- which I whole-heartedly agree with. A secondary question also seemed to be posed -- how do we get MSI to make these changes. May I suggest to users in the US that they use their users group meeting to shout loudly for improvements. In the UK, the MSI users group meetings are often lively and vocal events (particularly after a c**p release) -- Jeff Arnold (ex Polygen CEO) once turned up wearing a tee-shirt with a target logo on it!. My understanding is that US meetings are more subdued in comparison. MSI claim that they benefit from the UK meetings because they get to hear users true feelings. We (the UK users) get a chance to present a united front on what's wrong with Quanta/CHARMm. Sometimes MSI even do something about it!. So come on guys -- if you've got a problem, let 'em have it!!. Tim Mitchell, Sec. UK MSI users group. PS - Other European users. Any comments about your users group meetings would be very interesting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | _____ ____ || SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals Ltd | | / ___\\\\ _ \ || Brockham Park | | | |___ \\|_| | || Tim Mitchell (Comp. Chem.) Betchworth | | \____ \ | _ < || Phone (0)737 36 4535 Surrey | | ____| | | |_| | || Fax. (0)737 36 4539 RH3 7AJ | | \_____/ |____/ || mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@smithkline.com U.K. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From robert@sg1.oc.wau.nl Mon Jul 26 10:06:28 1993 Received: from Sun2.IenD.WAU.NL by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA03004; Mon, 26 Jul 93 10:06:28 -0400 Received: from Sg1.OC.wau.nl by Sun2.IenD.wau.nl (4.1/1.34) id AA26783; Mon, 26 Jul 93 16:00:04 +0200 Received: by Sg1.OC.wau.nl (911016.SGI/SMI-4.1) id AA10608; Mon, 26 Jul 93 14:59:20 GMT Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 14:59:20 GMT From: robert@sg1.oc.wau.nl (Robert Schrijvers) Message-Id: <9307261459.AA10608@Sg1.OC.wau.nl> To: charmm-bbs Subject: VIBRAN Hi CHARMMERS Does anyone has some suggestions on how to use the VIBRAN command on calculating rotational barriers. I calculated energy barriers by rotating (and constraining) the torsion angle of interest step by step. I wonder if someone knows or uses a smart strategy to analyse the highest energy structure wether this is the energy maximum as a funtion of the rotating torsion angle or not. Thanks in advance Robert Schrijvers Molecular Modeling & Design Department of Organic Chemistry Agricultural University Wageningen Dreijenplein 8 6703 HB Wageningen The Netherlands Phone: 08370-82364 FAX:08370-84914 e-mail: robert@SG1.OC.WAU.NL From ryszard@MSI.COM Mon Jul 26 15:33:21 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA03302; Mon, 26 Jul 93 15:33:21 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA08241; Mon, 26 Jul 93 15:28:37 EDT Received: from hogan.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20872; Mon, 26 Jul 93 15:27:39 EDT Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14735; Mon, 26 Jul 1993 15:27:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 15:27:37 -0400 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9307261927.AA14735@hogan.MSI.COM> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, robert@sg1.oc.wau.nl Subject: Re: VIBRAN You may consider using TRAVEL facility in CHARMM to calculate reaction paths. If you have already your candidates for saddle points and you want to make sure that these are realy saddle points (i.e. there is only ONE normal mode with imaginary frequency) then calculating frequencies with vibran should be helpful. Ryszard Czerminski, MSI From peter@msi.ch Thu Jul 29 03:47:23 1993 Received: from relay.pipex.net by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05184; Thu, 29 Jul 93 03:47:23 -0400 Received: from msi.ch by relay.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <09532-0@relay.pipex.net>; Thu, 29 Jul 1993 08:42:24 +0100 Received: by msi.ch (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for @pipex.net:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA14326; Thu, 29 Jul 93 09:41:38 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 09:41:38 +0200 From: peter@msi.ch Message-Id: <9307290741.AA14326@msi.ch> To: charmm-bbs Hello everybody, I am looking for publications where CHARMm was used to study sulfonamides. I would appreciate to get some references. Thank's for your help. Peter Zbinden, MSI e-mail: peter@msi.ch From peter@msi.ch Thu Jul 29 03:56:29 1993 Received: from relay.pipex.net by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05192; Thu, 29 Jul 93 03:56:29 -0400 Received: from msi.ch by relay.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <09857-0@relay.pipex.net>; Thu, 29 Jul 1993 08:51:28 +0100 Received: by msi.ch (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for @pipex.net:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA14470; Thu, 29 Jul 93 09:50:59 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 09:50:59 +0200 From: peter@msi.ch Message-Id: <9307290750.AA14470@msi.ch> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Sulfonamides Hello everybody, I am looking for publications where CHARMm was used to study sulfonamides. I would appreciate to get some references. Thank's for your help. Peter Zbinden, MSI e-mail: peter@msi.ch From tom@radical.chm.jhu.edu Fri Jul 30 11:51:29 1993 Received: from radical.chm.jhu.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA06854; Fri, 30 Jul 93 11:51:29 -0400 Message-Id: <9307301551.AA06854@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: by radical.chm.jhu.edu; Fri, 30 Jul 93 11:38:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 93 11:38:38 -0400 From: tom@radical.chm.jhu.edu (Tom Tullius) Sender: tom@radical.chm.jhu.edu To: charmm-bbs Subject: Constraints on nucleotide bases To the Charmm bbs: I am trying to "mutate" a DNA sequence by editing the resids in Quanta. This works OK, but I would then like to minimize the new base. I have had difficulty in writing a CHARMM command to constrain all the atoms of the DNA other than the "mutant" base - this would include the deoxyribose and the phosphate. Could someone give me a suggestion on how to simply constrain only part of a residue (just the sugar and phosphate, not the base)? Cheers, Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Tullius | tom@radical.chm.jhu.edu Department of Chemistry | Telephone: (410) 516-7449 The Johns Hopkins University | FAX: (410) 516-8468 Baltimore, MD 21218 | [alternate FAX: (410) 516-5199] From brbrooks@helix.nih.gov Thu Aug 5 23:26:22 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16366; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:26:22 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA22209; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:21:33 EDT Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA11355; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:21:30 -0400 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA00506; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:21:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:21:14 -0400 From: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov (Bernie Brooks) Message-Id: <9308060321.AA00506@helix.nih.gov> To: GRIMB@caos.caos.kun.nl, charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Re: image keywords The INVErse and NOINverse keywords in the image code are there for debugging purposes. The NOINverse keyword allows Newton's third law to be violated. If you are having trouble with the Image code, these keywords will not help you. Bernie Brooks From brbrooks@helix.nih.gov Thu Aug 5 23:50:40 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16381; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:50:40 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA22381; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:45:51 EDT Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA11404; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:45:48 -0400 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA01692; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:45:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:45:47 -0400 From: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov (Bernie Brooks) Message-Id: <9308060345.AA01692@helix.nih.gov> To: YAMAMURA%CGF@Arizona.edu, charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Re: Looking for information on charmm on DEC alphas We have CHARMM23 running well on a DEC alpha workstation under OS/1. This is a supported machine with CHARMM23. Bernie Brooks From burkhart@goodyear.com Fri Aug 6 14:20:25 1993 Received: from goodyear.goodyear.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16846; Fri, 6 Aug 93 14:20:25 -0400 Received: from rdsrv2 (rdsrv2.goodyear.com) by goodyear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02121; Fri, 6 Aug 93 14:16:12 EDT Received: from rds325 by rdsrv2 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14202; Fri, 6 Aug 93 14:14:54 EDT Received: by rds325 (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for quanta-l@msi.com id AA04583; Fri, 6 Aug 93 14:13:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 14:13:42 -0400 From: burkhart@goodyear.com (Craig W. Burkhart) Message-Id: <9308061813.AA04583@rds325> To: charmm-bbs, quanta-l@msi.com Subject: Umbrella Sampling Does anyone know if you can use a dummy atom as a defined point in the reaction coordinate procedures within CHARMm? It looks like it is doubtful, as the dummy atoms (at least when Quanta sets it up) have a different syntax. Moreover, they don't show up when you do a listing of the atoms. If you cannot use dummy atoms, can anyone tell me how to set up an equivalent point (that is, a midpoint between two other atoms) as an entity that RXNCord can use for a reaction coordinate? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig W. Burkhart, Ph.D Senior Research Chemist E-mail: cburkhart@goodyear.com The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. Fone: 216.796.4431 Akron Technical Center Fax: 216.796.3947 Akron, OH 44309-3531 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Wine and friends must be old to be appreciated" - old Italian maxim -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From schaad@scsun.unige.ch Tue Aug 10 05:19:18 1993 Received: from chx400.switch.ch by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA19500; Tue, 10 Aug 93 05:19:18 -0400 X400-Received: by mta chx400.switch.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=CH/; Relayed; Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:05:08 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/; Relayed; Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:05:00 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:04:09 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:04:09 +0200 X400-Originator: schaad@scsun.unige.ch X400-Recipients: charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/;930810110409] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 243 From: Schaad Olivier Message-Id: <243*/S=schaad/OU=scsun/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> To: charmm-bbs In-Reply-To: <9308091535.AA18593@emperor.harvard.edu> Subject: Parameters for organic molecules Dear sirs I would like to add to the parameter version 22 from Harward University the parameter for organic molecules like Pyridine, benzene, di-pyridine, methyl, ether, esther, and Metal- Nitrogen. Does anybody known a reference about using CHARMM with organic molecules, especially parameters. Thank Olivier Schaad ------------------------------------------------------------------- Olivier SCHAAD Geneva University E-mail: schaad@scsun.unige.ch Department of Biochemistry-SCIENCES-II Phone: (xx41 22) 702 6478 30, quai E-Ansermet Fax: (xx41 22) 702 6476 Geneva, Switzerland Ch-1211 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From schaad@scsun.unige.ch Tue Aug 10 05:19:19 1993 Received: from chx400.switch.ch by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA19504; Tue, 10 Aug 93 05:19:19 -0400 X400-Received: by mta chx400.switch.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=CH/; Relayed; Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:10:08 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/; Relayed; Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:10:04 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:09:13 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:09:13 +0200 X400-Originator: schaad@scsun.unige.ch X400-Recipients: charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/;930810110913] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 244 From: Schaad Olivier Message-Id: <244*/S=schaad/OU=scsun/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> To: charmm-bbs In-Reply-To: <9308091535.AA18593@emperor.harvard.edu> Subject: Molecules sitting on axis of symetry Dear sirs, I would like to use the IMAGE facility in CHARMM and simulate with symetry restraint a molecule with a internal symmetry like Adamantane or benzene 1,5 di pyridine, or hb with water molecules around the protein Thank Olivier Schaad ------------------------------------------------------------------- Olivier SCHAAD Geneva University E-mail: schaad@scsun.unige.ch Department of Biochemistry-SCIENCES-II Phone: (xx41 22) 702 6478 30, quai E-Ansermet Fax: (xx41 22) 702 6476 Geneva, Switzerland Ch-1211 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From luca@aeolus.ethz.ch Sat Aug 14 08:55:17 1993 Received: from bernina.ethz.ch by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA25363; Sat, 14 Aug 93 08:55:17 -0400 X400-Received: by mta bernina.ethz.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Sat, 14 Aug 1993 14:50:05 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Sat, 14 Aug 1993 15:49:58 +0200 Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 12:50:05 +0000 X400-Originator: luca@aeolus.ethz.ch X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/;930814144958] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 10 Conversion: Prohibited From: Luca Toldo Message-Id: <10*/S=luca/OU=aeolus/O=ethz/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> To: charmm-bbs Subject: CHARMM OPLS for Ammonium Sulphate and Ammonium Acetate ? Dear Sirs, I wish to know which are the best OPLS parameters to use for Ammonium Sulphate and for Ammonium Acetate. Looking forward Your reply LUCA TOLDO SWISS FEDERAL INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY ZUERICH email:Luca@aeolus.ethz.ch From JARRINM%AM.mrgate@woods.ulowell.edu Sat Aug 14 16:52:53 1993 Received: from woods.ulowell.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA25923; Sat, 14 Aug 93 16:52:53 -0400 Received: by woods.ulowell.edu (MX V3.1C) id 23273; Sat, 14 Aug 1993 16:47:20 EDT Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 16:47:13 EDT From: JARRINM%AM.mrgate@woods.ulowell.edu To: CHARMM-BBS X-Vmsmail-To: CHARMM-BBS@EMPEROR.HARVARD.EDU Message-Id: <0097104B.20420BE0.23273@woods.ulowell.edu> Subject: Correlation functions When calculating correlation functions using CHARMm, there are a few functions to choose from. One of this is called FFT. Can somebody tell me what is the mathematical fuction FFT stands for? Also when calculating spectral densities, there are four keywords to choose from: [SIZE integer] [FOLD] [RAMP] [SWITCH]. What do these keywords define? Thank you, Mario Jarrin Chemisty Dpt U. of MA at Lowell Lowell, MA 01854 e-mail: jarrinm@woods.ulowell.edu From tennant%hau410.uk.smithkline.com@smithkline.com Fri Aug 20 09:56:10 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA00274; Fri, 20 Aug 93 09:56:10 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA23893; Fri, 20 Aug 93 09:50:51 EDT Received: by hau410.uk.smithkline.com (921113.SGI.UNSUPPORTED_PROTOTYPE/921111.SGI.ANONFTP) for charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu id AA05913; Fri, 20 Aug 93 14:50:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 14:45:04 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Tennant Subject: Dynamics To: Charmm Bulletin Board Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, Can anybody help with this one...? In a dynamics script, is iasors 0 meant to switch off the use of iasvel and just use iscvel, or does it use a combination of both? The documentation implies (states) that just the scaling option will be used, but in practice iasvel seems to be independant of iasors. Any ideas? cheers, Mike. _____________________________________________________________________________ | _____ ____ || SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals Ltd | | / ___\\\\ _ \ || Coldharbour Rd | | | |___ \\|_| | || Harlow | | \____ \ | _ < || Essex | | ___| | | |_| | || CM19 5AD | | \_____/ |____/ || England | | || Harlow (0279) 622000x3328 | |_________________________________||__________________________________________| | | | Mike Tennant | | Email: tennant%hau410.uk.smithkline.com@phinet.smithkline.com | |*****************************************************************************| | Save the Whales -- Harpoon a Honda. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From schaad@scsun.unige.ch Fri Aug 27 07:44:20 1993 Received: from chx400.switch.ch by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04106; Fri, 27 Aug 93 07:44:20 -0400 X400-Received: by mta chx400.switch.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=CH/; Relayed; Fri, 27 Aug 1993 13:38:45 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/; Relayed; Fri, 27 Aug 1993 13:38:41 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Fri, 27 Aug 1993 13:38:37 +0200 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 13:38:37 +0200 X400-Originator: schaad@scsun.unige.ch X400-Recipients: charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/;930827133837] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 298 From: Schaad Olivier Message-Id: <298*/S=schaad/OU=scsun/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> To: charmm-bbs In-Reply-To: <9308091535.AA18593@emperor.harvard.edu> Subject: Generate ALL angles and Dihedrals after a PATCH Dear sirs Do you known if it is possible to USE the Auto generate Angle and dihedrals facility after a PATCH. I would like to Create a new bond between to residues and then generate all the Angle and Dihedrals and to be sure I am consistent with the Energy function. Thank Olivier Schaad ------------------------------------------------------------------- Olivier SCHAAD Geneva University E-mail: schaad@scsun.unige.ch Department of Biochemistry-SCIENCES-II Phone: (xx41 22) 702 6478 30, quai E-Ansermet Fax: (xx41 22) 702 6476 Geneva, Switzerland Ch-1211 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From ln@pike.csb.ki.se Fri Aug 27 08:32:06 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04139; Fri, 27 Aug 93 08:32:06 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA26763; Fri, 27 Aug 93 08:26:51 EDT Received: by pike.csb.ki.se (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32205; Fri, 27 Aug 1993 14:25:14 +0200 Message-Id: <9308271225.AA32205@pike.csb.ki.se> To: Schaad Olivier Cc: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Re: Generate ALL angles and Dihedrals after a PATCH In-Reply-To: (Your message of Fri, 27 Aug 93 13:38:37 O.) <298*/S=schaad/OU=scsun/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 14:25:14 +0100 From: "Lennart Nilsson, KI/CSB" the autogenerate facility does not apply to patches, meaning that you have to include all relevant angles and dihedrals in the patch residue definition in the rtf. lennart nilsson From brbrooks@helix.nih.gov Fri Aug 27 16:32:51 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04527; Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:32:51 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA04761; Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:27:37 EDT Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA01758; Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:27:34 -0400 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA19352; Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:27:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:27:34 -0400 From: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov (Bernie Brooks) Message-Id: <9308272027.AA19352@helix.nih.gov> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, schaad@scsun.unige.ch Subject: Re: Generate ALL angles and Dihedrals after a PATCH There is no facility to autogenerate after a patch. This is something thatt we have wanted for some time, but no one has bothered to write the code. Bernie Brooks From silva@yang.mayo.EDU Fri Aug 27 16:44:24 1993 Received: from bru.mayo.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04538; Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:44:24 -0400 Received: from autobahn.mayo.EDU by bru.mayo.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA12440; Fri, 27 Aug 93 15:37:05 CDT Received: from yang.mayo.edu by autobahn.mayo.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01957; Fri, 27 Aug 93 15:39:06 CDT Received: by yang.mayo.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for @autobahn.mayo.edu:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA09616; Fri, 27 Aug 93 15:37:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 15:37:03 -0500 From: silva@yang.mayo.EDU (Norberto Silva) Message-Id: <9308272037.AA09616@yang.mayo.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Stochastic boundary simulations Hello, I was wondering if someone would be kind enough to give an example input file for doing a stochastic boundary simulation. I would also appreciate if the person donating the input file would also put in a couple of comments here and there so as to explain why certain commands or parameter values were chosen in the simulation (I'll understand though if this is asking for too much). I have already done a lot of conformational searches with CHARMM as well as a little bit of dynamics simulation on a whole protein. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Norberto D. Silva, Jr. "Superstition brings bad luck" Mayo Clinic, Guggenheim 14 --Raymond Smullyan, 5000 B.C. 200 First St. SW Rochester, MN 55905 FAX: (507) 284-9349 e-mail: silva@mayo.edu phone: (507) 284-5794 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From db3q@engcd.bu.edu Fri Aug 27 17:35:07 1993 Received: from DARWIN.BU.EDU by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04580; Fri, 27 Aug 93 17:35:07 -0400 Received: from ENGCD.BU.EDU by darwin.bu.edu (5.61+++/Spike-2.1) id AA26376; Fri, 27 Aug 93 17:29:50 -0400 Received: by engcd.bu.edu.bu.edu (5.61+++/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA02136; Fri, 27 Aug 93 17:33:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 17:33:38 -0400 From: db3q@engcd.bu.edu (Djamal Bouzida) Message-Id: <9308272133.AA02136@engcd.bu.edu.bu.edu> To: CHARMM-bbs Subject: CHARMM / Monte Carlo I am writing this message to address the issue of the use of Monte Carlo methods for studying equilibrium properties of molecular systems. Many existing packages, including CHARMM, do not have an option that the user could click to run a Monte Carlo simulation on the system. Since I've dealt with the efficiency and the flexibility of such methods during my PhD thesis, and developed optimized MC methods, I've decided to find a way on how to connect my routines with the CHARMM code. The easiest solution I came up with was to link my main program through the USER routine provided, and then call the "rebuilding" and "energy-related" routines (SEED,BILDC,GETE,EPROP) from within my program to rebuild the trial configuration and update the MC-step. As you may already have guessed, this procedure is very slow. The reason being that if the trial move consists of moving only some part of the molecule (say a side chain), the building routine will have to rebuild the whole molecule, and the energy routine calculates the new energy of the whole molecule also. And, since this is repeated many times, it is very time consuming. What I need is to rebuild only the new conformation of the atoms that are moved, and the corresponding energy CHANGE which is needed for the Metropolis updating process. Could someone familiar with the routines above please let me know whether it is possible to do what I described, and thus increase the efficiency of the code. If yes, please let me know how. If not, then what COMMON variables are needed to rebuild only one part of the molecule within CHARMM and computing the corresponding energy change. PS: I have another technical request: I believe it should be possible to call C routines through USER (Calling C from Fortran). If someone has already done it, I would appreciate receiving a sample of your code dealing with the interface. ThanQ. -- Djamal Bouzida E-mail: db3q@engcd.bu.edu From W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl Mon Aug 30 09:27:02 1993 Received: from utct.ct.utwente.nl by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA06448; Mon, 30 Aug 93 09:27:02 -0400 Received: from utctu6.ct.utwente.nl by ct.utwente.nl with SMTP id AA13046 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Mon, 30 Aug 1993 15:22:10 +0200 Received: by utctu6.ct.utwente.nl (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @utct.ct.utwente.nl:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA16177; Mon, 30 Aug 93 15:17:03 +0100 From: W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl (Willem Paul van Hoorn) Message-Id: <9308301417.AA16177@utctu6.ct.utwente.nl> Subject: Re: CHARMM / Monte Carlo To: charmm-bbs (CHARMm BBS) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 15:16:59 +0000 (WDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1279 Djamal Bouzida writes: > Many existing packages, including CHARMM, > do not have an option that the user could click to run a > Monte Carlo simulation on the system. Since I've dealt with > the efficiency and the flexibility of such methods during my > PhD thesis, and developed optimized MC methods, I've decided > to find a way on how to connect my routines with the CHARMM > code. I am very interested in using Monte Carlo within CHARMM. I notice that 'life-science people' often use Molecular Dynamics, and 'material-science people' use Monte Carlo methods. Is their a special reason for this? Or am I wrong about this? (My PhD research consists of a material science subject: self assembling organic monolayers, and I use the 'life science' program Quanta/CHARMm, due to historic reasons). Willem Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (ir) Willem Paul van Hoorn University of Twente e-mail: wphoorn@ct.utwente.nl Organic Chemistry Department phone : (+31)53-892955 P.O. Box 217 (+31)53-892980 7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands fax : (+31)53-356024 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From kreidler@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Tue Aug 31 11:51:15 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA08069; Tue, 31 Aug 93 11:51:15 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA03248; Tue, 31 Aug 93 11:45:39 EDT Received: by convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (5.64/10.0) id AA28723; Tue, 31 Aug 93 17:46:13 +0200 From: kreidler@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Kay Kreidler) Message-Id: <9308311546.AA28723@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> Subject: h-bridges in CHARMM 22.0 To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard (charmm bbs) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 17:46:02 +0200 (MET) Cc: kreidler@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Kay Kreidler) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 475 Hi folks out there! I just read a paper of Milne et al. (J. Mol. Struct. 291, (1993) pp89-103 about "Molecular modeling in solvent". There it is described, that in CHARMM version 21.2 the calculation of an explicit hydrogen bond term is not possible. Is this feature implemented in later versions. At the Dept. of Inorganic chemistry we use Charmm 3.3, which is version 22.0. Thanx Kay Kreidler Dept. of Inorganic chemistry Heinrich-Heine University Duesseldorf Germany From ln@pike.csb.ki.se Tue Sep 7 07:33:47 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11335; Tue, 7 Sep 93 07:33:47 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA01722; Tue, 7 Sep 93 07:28:18 EDT Received: by pike.csb.ki.se (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA30385; Tue, 7 Sep 1993 13:26:39 +0200 Message-Id: <9309071126.AA30385@pike.csb.ki.se> To: kreidler@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Kay Kreidler) Cc: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard (charmm bbs) Subject: Re: h-bridges in CHARMM 22.0 In-Reply-To: (Your message of Tue, 31 Aug 93 17:46:02 O.) <9308311546.AA28723@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 93 13:26:39 +0100 From: "Lennart Nilsson, KI/CSB" the charmm energy function does contain a term for h-bonds; the current parameterization, however, is made such that this term is not needed with the coulomb and van der Waals terms taking up also the hbond energy. a simple distance criterion is usually sufficient to determine if a hydrogen bond is present or not. lennart nilsson END --> jul93.log <--- BEGIN --> aug93.log <--- AUG93.log -- From brbrooks@helix.nih.gov Thu Aug 5 23:26:22 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16366; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:26:22 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA22209; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:21:33 EDT Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA11355; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:21:30 -0400 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA00506; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:21:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:21:14 -0400 From: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov (Bernie Brooks) Message-Id: <9308060321.AA00506@helix.nih.gov> To: GRIMB@caos.caos.kun.nl, charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Re: image keywords The INVErse and NOINverse keywords in the image code are there for debugging purposes. The NOINverse keyword allows Newton's third law to be violated. If you are having trouble with the Image code, these keywords will not help you. Bernie Brooks From brbrooks@helix.nih.gov Thu Aug 5 23:50:40 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16381; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:50:40 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA22381; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:45:51 EDT Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA11404; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:45:48 -0400 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA01692; Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:45:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Aug 93 23:45:47 -0400 From: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov (Bernie Brooks) Message-Id: <9308060345.AA01692@helix.nih.gov> To: YAMAMURA%CGF@Arizona.edu, charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Re: Looking for information on charmm on DEC alphas We have CHARMM23 running well on a DEC alpha workstation under OS/1. This is a supported machine with CHARMM23. Bernie Brooks From burkhart@goodyear.com Fri Aug 6 14:20:25 1993 Received: from goodyear.goodyear.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA16846; Fri, 6 Aug 93 14:20:25 -0400 Received: from rdsrv2 (rdsrv2.goodyear.com) by goodyear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02121; Fri, 6 Aug 93 14:16:12 EDT Received: from rds325 by rdsrv2 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14202; Fri, 6 Aug 93 14:14:54 EDT Received: by rds325 (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for quanta-l@msi.com id AA04583; Fri, 6 Aug 93 14:13:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 14:13:42 -0400 From: burkhart@goodyear.com (Craig W. Burkhart) Message-Id: <9308061813.AA04583@rds325> To: charmm-bbs, quanta-l@msi.com Subject: Umbrella Sampling Does anyone know if you can use a dummy atom as a defined point in the reaction coordinate procedures within CHARMm? It looks like it is doubtful, as the dummy atoms (at least when Quanta sets it up) have a different syntax. Moreover, they don't show up when you do a listing of the atoms. If you cannot use dummy atoms, can anyone tell me how to set up an equivalent point (that is, a midpoint between two other atoms) as an entity that RXNCord can use for a reaction coordinate? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig W. Burkhart, Ph.D Senior Research Chemist E-mail: cburkhart@goodyear.com The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. Fone: 216.796.4431 Akron Technical Center Fax: 216.796.3947 Akron, OH 44309-3531 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Wine and friends must be old to be appreciated" - old Italian maxim -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From schaad@scsun.unige.ch Tue Aug 10 05:19:18 1993 Received: from chx400.switch.ch by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA19500; Tue, 10 Aug 93 05:19:18 -0400 X400-Received: by mta chx400.switch.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=CH/; Relayed; Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:05:08 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/; Relayed; Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:05:00 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:04:09 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:04:09 +0200 X400-Originator: schaad@scsun.unige.ch X400-Recipients: charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/;930810110409] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 243 From: Schaad Olivier Message-Id: <243*/S=schaad/OU=scsun/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> To: charmm-bbs In-Reply-To: <9308091535.AA18593@emperor.harvard.edu> Subject: Parameters for organic molecules Dear sirs I would like to add to the parameter version 22 from Harward University the parameter for organic molecules like Pyridine, benzene, di-pyridine, methyl, ether, esther, and Metal- Nitrogen. Does anybody known a reference about using CHARMM with organic molecules, especially parameters. Thank Olivier Schaad ------------------------------------------------------------------- Olivier SCHAAD Geneva University E-mail: schaad@scsun.unige.ch Department of Biochemistry-SCIENCES-II Phone: (xx41 22) 702 6478 30, quai E-Ansermet Fax: (xx41 22) 702 6476 Geneva, Switzerland Ch-1211 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From schaad@scsun.unige.ch Tue Aug 10 05:19:19 1993 Received: from chx400.switch.ch by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA19504; Tue, 10 Aug 93 05:19:19 -0400 X400-Received: by mta chx400.switch.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=CH/; Relayed; Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:10:08 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/; Relayed; Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:10:04 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:09:13 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 11:09:13 +0200 X400-Originator: schaad@scsun.unige.ch X400-Recipients: charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/;930810110913] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 244 From: Schaad Olivier Message-Id: <244*/S=schaad/OU=scsun/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> To: charmm-bbs In-Reply-To: <9308091535.AA18593@emperor.harvard.edu> Subject: Molecules sitting on axis of symetry Dear sirs, I would like to use the IMAGE facility in CHARMM and simulate with symetry restraint a molecule with a internal symmetry like Adamantane or benzene 1,5 di pyridine, or hb with water molecules around the protein Thank Olivier Schaad ------------------------------------------------------------------- Olivier SCHAAD Geneva University E-mail: schaad@scsun.unige.ch Department of Biochemistry-SCIENCES-II Phone: (xx41 22) 702 6478 30, quai E-Ansermet Fax: (xx41 22) 702 6476 Geneva, Switzerland Ch-1211 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From luca@aeolus.ethz.ch Sat Aug 14 08:55:17 1993 Received: from bernina.ethz.ch by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA25363; Sat, 14 Aug 93 08:55:17 -0400 X400-Received: by mta bernina.ethz.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Sat, 14 Aug 1993 14:50:05 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Sat, 14 Aug 1993 15:49:58 +0200 Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 12:50:05 +0000 X400-Originator: luca@aeolus.ethz.ch X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/;930814144958] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 10 Conversion: Prohibited From: Luca Toldo Message-Id: <10*/S=luca/OU=aeolus/O=ethz/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> To: charmm-bbs Subject: CHARMM OPLS for Ammonium Sulphate and Ammonium Acetate ? Dear Sirs, I wish to know which are the best OPLS parameters to use for Ammonium Sulphate and for Ammonium Acetate. Looking forward Your reply LUCA TOLDO SWISS FEDERAL INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY ZUERICH email:Luca@aeolus.ethz.ch From JARRINM%AM.mrgate@woods.ulowell.edu Sat Aug 14 16:52:53 1993 Received: from woods.ulowell.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA25923; Sat, 14 Aug 93 16:52:53 -0400 Received: by woods.ulowell.edu (MX V3.1C) id 23273; Sat, 14 Aug 1993 16:47:20 EDT Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 16:47:13 EDT From: JARRINM%AM.mrgate@woods.ulowell.edu To: CHARMM-BBS X-Vmsmail-To: CHARMM-BBS@EMPEROR.HARVARD.EDU Message-Id: <0097104B.20420BE0.23273@woods.ulowell.edu> Subject: Correlation functions When calculating correlation functions using CHARMm, there are a few functions to choose from. One of this is called FFT. Can somebody tell me what is the mathematical fuction FFT stands for? Also when calculating spectral densities, there are four keywords to choose from: [SIZE integer] [FOLD] [RAMP] [SWITCH]. What do these keywords define? Thank you, Mario Jarrin Chemisty Dpt U. of MA at Lowell Lowell, MA 01854 e-mail: jarrinm@woods.ulowell.edu From tennant%hau410.uk.smithkline.com@smithkline.com Fri Aug 20 09:56:10 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA00274; Fri, 20 Aug 93 09:56:10 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA23893; Fri, 20 Aug 93 09:50:51 EDT Received: by hau410.uk.smithkline.com (921113.SGI.UNSUPPORTED_PROTOTYPE/921111.SGI.ANONFTP) for charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu id AA05913; Fri, 20 Aug 93 14:50:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 14:45:04 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Tennant Subject: Dynamics To: Charmm Bulletin Board Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, Can anybody help with this one...? In a dynamics script, is iasors 0 meant to switch off the use of iasvel and just use iscvel, or does it use a combination of both? The documentation implies (states) that just the scaling option will be used, but in practice iasvel seems to be independant of iasors. Any ideas? cheers, Mike. _____________________________________________________________________________ | _____ ____ || SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals Ltd | | / ___\\\\ _ \ || Coldharbour Rd | | | |___ \\|_| | || Harlow | | \____ \ | _ < || Essex | | ___| | | |_| | || CM19 5AD | | \_____/ |____/ || England | | || Harlow (0279) 622000x3328 | |_________________________________||__________________________________________| | | | Mike Tennant | | Email: tennant%hau410.uk.smithkline.com@phinet.smithkline.com | |*****************************************************************************| | Save the Whales -- Harpoon a Honda. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From schaad@scsun.unige.ch Fri Aug 27 07:44:20 1993 Received: from chx400.switch.ch by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04106; Fri, 27 Aug 93 07:44:20 -0400 X400-Received: by mta chx400.switch.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=CH/; Relayed; Fri, 27 Aug 1993 13:38:45 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/; Relayed; Fri, 27 Aug 1993 13:38:41 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Fri, 27 Aug 1993 13:38:37 +0200 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 13:38:37 +0200 X400-Originator: schaad@scsun.unige.ch X400-Recipients: charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/;930827133837] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 298 From: Schaad Olivier Message-Id: <298*/S=schaad/OU=scsun/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> To: charmm-bbs In-Reply-To: <9308091535.AA18593@emperor.harvard.edu> Subject: Generate ALL angles and Dihedrals after a PATCH Dear sirs Do you known if it is possible to USE the Auto generate Angle and dihedrals facility after a PATCH. I would like to Create a new bond between to residues and then generate all the Angle and Dihedrals and to be sure I am consistent with the Energy function. Thank Olivier Schaad ------------------------------------------------------------------- Olivier SCHAAD Geneva University E-mail: schaad@scsun.unige.ch Department of Biochemistry-SCIENCES-II Phone: (xx41 22) 702 6478 30, quai E-Ansermet Fax: (xx41 22) 702 6476 Geneva, Switzerland Ch-1211 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From ln@pike.csb.ki.se Fri Aug 27 08:32:06 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04139; Fri, 27 Aug 93 08:32:06 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA26763; Fri, 27 Aug 93 08:26:51 EDT Received: by pike.csb.ki.se (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32205; Fri, 27 Aug 1993 14:25:14 +0200 Message-Id: <9308271225.AA32205@pike.csb.ki.se> To: Schaad Olivier Cc: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Re: Generate ALL angles and Dihedrals after a PATCH In-Reply-To: (Your message of Fri, 27 Aug 93 13:38:37 O.) <298*/S=schaad/OU=scsun/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 14:25:14 +0100 From: "Lennart Nilsson, KI/CSB" the autogenerate facility does not apply to patches, meaning that you have to include all relevant angles and dihedrals in the patch residue definition in the rtf. lennart nilsson From brbrooks@helix.nih.gov Fri Aug 27 16:32:51 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04527; Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:32:51 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA04761; Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:27:37 EDT Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA01758; Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:27:34 -0400 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA19352; Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:27:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:27:34 -0400 From: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov (Bernie Brooks) Message-Id: <9308272027.AA19352@helix.nih.gov> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, schaad@scsun.unige.ch Subject: Re: Generate ALL angles and Dihedrals after a PATCH There is no facility to autogenerate after a patch. This is something thatt we have wanted for some time, but no one has bothered to write the code. Bernie Brooks From silva@yang.mayo.EDU Fri Aug 27 16:44:24 1993 Received: from bru.mayo.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04538; Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:44:24 -0400 Received: from autobahn.mayo.EDU by bru.mayo.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA12440; Fri, 27 Aug 93 15:37:05 CDT Received: from yang.mayo.edu by autobahn.mayo.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01957; Fri, 27 Aug 93 15:39:06 CDT Received: by yang.mayo.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for @autobahn.mayo.edu:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA09616; Fri, 27 Aug 93 15:37:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 15:37:03 -0500 From: silva@yang.mayo.EDU (Norberto Silva) Message-Id: <9308272037.AA09616@yang.mayo.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Stochastic boundary simulations Hello, I was wondering if someone would be kind enough to give an example input file for doing a stochastic boundary simulation. I would also appreciate if the person donating the input file would also put in a couple of comments here and there so as to explain why certain commands or parameter values were chosen in the simulation (I'll understand though if this is asking for too much). I have already done a lot of conformational searches with CHARMM as well as a little bit of dynamics simulation on a whole protein. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Norberto D. Silva, Jr. "Superstition brings bad luck" Mayo Clinic, Guggenheim 14 --Raymond Smullyan, 5000 B.C. 200 First St. SW Rochester, MN 55905 FAX: (507) 284-9349 e-mail: silva@mayo.edu phone: (507) 284-5794 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From db3q@engcd.bu.edu Fri Aug 27 17:35:07 1993 Received: from DARWIN.BU.EDU by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04580; Fri, 27 Aug 93 17:35:07 -0400 Received: from ENGCD.BU.EDU by darwin.bu.edu (5.61+++/Spike-2.1) id AA26376; Fri, 27 Aug 93 17:29:50 -0400 Received: by engcd.bu.edu.bu.edu (5.61+++/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA02136; Fri, 27 Aug 93 17:33:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 17:33:38 -0400 From: db3q@engcd.bu.edu (Djamal Bouzida) Message-Id: <9308272133.AA02136@engcd.bu.edu.bu.edu> To: CHARMM-bbs Subject: CHARMM / Monte Carlo I am writing this message to address the issue of the use of Monte Carlo methods for studying equilibrium properties of molecular systems. Many existing packages, including CHARMM, do not have an option that the user could click to run a Monte Carlo simulation on the system. Since I've dealt with the efficiency and the flexibility of such methods during my PhD thesis, and developed optimized MC methods, I've decided to find a way on how to connect my routines with the CHARMM code. The easiest solution I came up with was to link my main program through the USER routine provided, and then call the "rebuilding" and "energy-related" routines (SEED,BILDC,GETE,EPROP) from within my program to rebuild the trial configuration and update the MC-step. As you may already have guessed, this procedure is very slow. The reason being that if the trial move consists of moving only some part of the molecule (say a side chain), the building routine will have to rebuild the whole molecule, and the energy routine calculates the new energy of the whole molecule also. And, since this is repeated many times, it is very time consuming. What I need is to rebuild only the new conformation of the atoms that are moved, and the corresponding energy CHANGE which is needed for the Metropolis updating process. Could someone familiar with the routines above please let me know whether it is possible to do what I described, and thus increase the efficiency of the code. If yes, please let me know how. If not, then what COMMON variables are needed to rebuild only one part of the molecule within CHARMM and computing the corresponding energy change. PS: I have another technical request: I believe it should be possible to call C routines through USER (Calling C from Fortran). If someone has already done it, I would appreciate receiving a sample of your code dealing with the interface. ThanQ. -- Djamal Bouzida E-mail: db3q@engcd.bu.edu From W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl Mon Aug 30 09:27:02 1993 Received: from utct.ct.utwente.nl by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA06448; Mon, 30 Aug 93 09:27:02 -0400 Received: from utctu6.ct.utwente.nl by ct.utwente.nl with SMTP id AA13046 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Mon, 30 Aug 1993 15:22:10 +0200 Received: by utctu6.ct.utwente.nl (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @utct.ct.utwente.nl:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA16177; Mon, 30 Aug 93 15:17:03 +0100 From: W.P.vanHoorn@ct.utwente.nl (Willem Paul van Hoorn) Message-Id: <9308301417.AA16177@utctu6.ct.utwente.nl> Subject: Re: CHARMM / Monte Carlo To: charmm-bbs (CHARMm BBS) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 15:16:59 +0000 (WDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1279 Djamal Bouzida writes: > Many existing packages, including CHARMM, > do not have an option that the user could click to run a > Monte Carlo simulation on the system. Since I've dealt with > the efficiency and the flexibility of such methods during my > PhD thesis, and developed optimized MC methods, I've decided > to find a way on how to connect my routines with the CHARMM > code. I am very interested in using Monte Carlo within CHARMM. I notice that 'life-science people' often use Molecular Dynamics, and 'material-science people' use Monte Carlo methods. Is their a special reason for this? Or am I wrong about this? (My PhD research consists of a material science subject: self assembling organic monolayers, and I use the 'life science' program Quanta/CHARMm, due to historic reasons). Willem Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (ir) Willem Paul van Hoorn University of Twente e-mail: wphoorn@ct.utwente.nl Organic Chemistry Department phone : (+31)53-892955 P.O. Box 217 (+31)53-892980 7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands fax : (+31)53-356024 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From kreidler@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Tue Aug 31 11:51:15 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA08069; Tue, 31 Aug 93 11:51:15 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA03248; Tue, 31 Aug 93 11:45:39 EDT Received: by convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (5.64/10.0) id AA28723; Tue, 31 Aug 93 17:46:13 +0200 From: kreidler@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Kay Kreidler) Message-Id: <9308311546.AA28723@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> Subject: h-bridges in CHARMM 22.0 To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard (charmm bbs) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 17:46:02 +0200 (MET) Cc: kreidler@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Kay Kreidler) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 475 Hi folks out there! I just read a paper of Milne et al. (J. Mol. Struct. 291, (1993) pp89-103 about "Molecular modeling in solvent". There it is described, that in CHARMM version 21.2 the calculation of an explicit hydrogen bond term is not possible. Is this feature implemented in later versions. At the Dept. of Inorganic chemistry we use Charmm 3.3, which is version 22.0. Thanx Kay Kreidler Dept. of Inorganic chemistry Heinrich-Heine University Duesseldorf Germany From ln@pike.csb.ki.se Tue Sep 7 07:33:47 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11335; Tue, 7 Sep 93 07:33:47 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA01722; Tue, 7 Sep 93 07:28:18 EDT Received: by pike.csb.ki.se (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA30385; Tue, 7 Sep 1993 13:26:39 +0200 Message-Id: <9309071126.AA30385@pike.csb.ki.se> To: kreidler@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Kay Kreidler) Cc: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard (charmm bbs) Subject: Re: h-bridges in CHARMM 22.0 In-Reply-To: (Your message of Tue, 31 Aug 93 17:46:02 O.) <9308311546.AA28723@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 93 13:26:39 +0100 From: "Lennart Nilsson, KI/CSB" the charmm energy function does contain a term for h-bonds; the current parameterization, however, is made such that this term is not needed with the coulomb and van der Waals terms taking up also the hbond energy. a simple distance criterion is usually sufficient to determine if a hydrogen bond is present or not. lennart nilsson END --> aug93.log <--- BEGIN --> sep93.log <--- SEP93.log -- From ln@pike.csb.ki.se Tue Sep 7 07:33:47 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11335; Tue, 7 Sep 93 07:33:47 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA01722; Tue, 7 Sep 93 07:28:18 EDT Received: by pike.csb.ki.se (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA30385; Tue, 7 Sep 1993 13:26:39 +0200 Message-Id: <9309071126.AA30385@pike.csb.ki.se> To: kreidler@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Kay Kreidler) Cc: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard (charmm bbs) Subject: Re: h-bridges in CHARMM 22.0 In-Reply-To: (Your message of Tue, 31 Aug 93 17:46:02 O.) <9308311546.AA28723@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 93 13:26:39 +0100 From: "Lennart Nilsson, KI/CSB" the charmm energy function does contain a term for h-bonds; the current parameterization, however, is made such that this term is not needed with the coulomb and van der Waals terms taking up also the hbond energy. a simple distance criterion is usually sufficient to determine if a hydrogen bond is present or not. lennart nilsson From robert@sg1.oc.wau.nl Thu Sep 9 11:34:57 1993 Received: from Sun2.IenD.WAU.NL by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA12679; Thu, 9 Sep 93 11:34:57 -0400 Received: from Sg1.OC.wau.nl by Sun2.IenD.wau.nl (4.1/1.34) id AA10421; Thu, 9 Sep 93 17:29:29 +0200 Received: from mac04.oc.wau.nl by Sg1.OC.wau.nl (911016.SGI/SMI-4.1) id AA28919; Thu, 9 Sep 93 17:27:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 93 17:27:53 +0100 Message-Id: <9309091627.AA28919@Sg1.OC.wau.nl> To: charmm-bbs From: Robert Schijvers Subject: ENERGY evaluations Hi, When I calculate the minimised energy of a compound using charmm21.3 and charmm22 I get different results. All settings and also the PSF's are the same so the parameters must be changed. In order to evaluate the energy terms I used: ENERGY IPRINT 1 IMAXP 78 which works well for charmm21.3 but is not recognised by charmm22. I could not find an answer for this problem in the doc files. If anyone knows an other way to do energy term evaluations please let me know. Thanks in advance, Robert. Robert Schrijvers Department of Organic Chemistry Wageningen Agricultural University The Netherlands Phone: 31-(0)8370-82364/82368 FAX: 31-(0)8370-84914 E-MAIL: robert@sg1.oc.wau.nl From brbrooks@helix.nih.gov Thu Sep 9 11:55:50 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA12697; Thu, 9 Sep 93 11:55:50 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA13252; Thu, 9 Sep 93 11:50:23 EDT Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA09196; Thu, 9 Sep 93 11:50:19 -0400 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA09022; Thu, 9 Sep 93 11:50:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 93 11:50:18 -0400 From: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov (Bernie Brooks) Message-Id: <9309091550.AA09022@helix.nih.gov> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, robert@sg1.oc.wau.nl Subject: Re: ENERGY evaluations Robert Schrijvers: The feature which prints out indiviual energy terms was removed in CHARMM22 and CHARMM23. There is a new analysis facility under development which will provide this capability, but it will not be available before the end of the year. For now, you will need to modify the code or write a USERSB or USERE subroutine to provide this capability (or use an old CHARMM version). Bernie Brooks From dchin Thu Sep 9 12:39:10 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA12754; Thu, 9 Sep 93 12:39:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 93 12:39:10 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9309091639.AA12754@emperor.harvard.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Bernie's response to Robert S. *From: Donovan Chin *The charmm-bbs mailer "decided" that Bernie's mail was *a subscription. It was not and so here it is: -begin- Robert Schrijvers: The feature which prints out indiviual energy terms was removed in CHARMM22 and CHARMM23. There is a new analysis facility under development which will provide this capability, but it will not be available before the end of the year. For now, you will need to modify the code or write a USERSB or USERE subroutine to provide this capability (or use an old CHARMM version). Bernie Brooks From silva@yang.mayo.EDU Thu Sep 9 15:47:02 1993 Received: from bru.mayo.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA13129; Thu, 9 Sep 93 15:47:02 -0400 Received: from autobahn.mayo.EDU by bru.mayo.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA00272; Thu, 9 Sep 93 14:39:33 CDT Received: from yang.mayo.edu by autobahn.mayo.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16043; Thu, 9 Sep 93 14:41:36 CDT Received: by yang.mayo.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for @autobahn.mayo.edu:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA02248; Thu, 9 Sep 93 14:39:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 93 14:39:23 -0500 From: silva@yang.mayo.EDU (Norberto Silva) Message-Id: <9309091939.AA02248@yang.mayo.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: equilibration Hi, Excuse me for my ignorance in this subject but I tend to get a variety of advice on the topic of equilibration. I always thought that a system of N atoms is equilibrated once the temperature T does not have a percentage fluctuation of more than 1.0/(square root of N). However, I was later told that one shouldn't look at the temperature fluctuations but rather the potential energy fluctuations. Furthermore, I was told that one should equilibrate for as long as a production run and that rescaling velocities during equilibration should be less frequent than say the 50 steps (0.001 ps delta time) I was using for a 1000 atoms simulation. Are there any good references and/or advice on this topic ? I am in the process of simulating a 100 residue protein in vacuum using CHARMM 22 (with ionizable residue charges reduced by 80%). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Norberto D. Silva, Jr. "Superstition brings bad luck" Mayo Clinic, Guggenheim 14 --Raymond Smullyan, 5000 B.C. 200 First St. SW Rochester, MN 55905 FAX: (507) 284-9349 e-mail: silva@mayo.edu phone: (507) 284-5794 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From db3q@engcd.bu.edu Fri Sep 10 15:29:56 1993 Received: from DARWIN.BU.EDU by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA14435; Fri, 10 Sep 93 15:29:56 -0400 Received: from ENGCD.BU.EDU by darwin.bu.edu (5.61+++/Spike-2.1) id AA09629; Fri, 10 Sep 93 15:24:29 -0400 Received: by engcd.bu.edu.bu.edu (5.61+++/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13926; Fri, 10 Sep 93 15:28:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 15:28:19 -0400 From: db3q@engcd.bu.edu (Djamal Bouzida) Message-Id: <9309101928.AA13926@engcd.bu.edu.bu.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: equilibration silva@yang.mayo.EDU : > Excuse me for my ignorance in this subject but I tend to get a variety > of advice on the topic of equilibration. I always thought that Back to the basics: If you're running MD, the variables that should be conserved are E (total Energy), N (number of particles), and V (volume) representing a microcanonical ensemble. Rescaling velocities is done merely to drive the system to the wanted "equilibrium" state (say at 300K). At equilibrium, both the kinetic and potential energies will fluctuate such that the total energy of the system is kept constant. Assuming your system is large, the mean-square fluctuations of the kinetic energy K (non-thermodynamic variable) will be / = T[1-3/2C] where C is the specific heat per particle. If your system is harmonic (and the global rotation and translation are suppressed in the simulation), the specific heat per particle is just (3N-6)kB/2N. If you need more details on the subject, please read the 1967 paper in Physical Review, vol. 153, page 250 titled "Ensemble Dependence of Fluctuations with Application to Machine Computations." by Lebowitz, Percus, and L. Verlet. Good luck. -- Djamal Bouzida E-mail: db3q@engcd.bu.edu From arne@ewald.mbi.ucla.edu Sat Sep 18 15:04:12 1993 Received: from ewald.mbi.ucla.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04027; Sat, 18 Sep 93 15:04:12 -0400 Received: by ewald.mbi.ucla.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA23265; Sat, 18 Sep 93 11:57:24 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 93 11:57:24 -0700 From: arne@ewald.mbi.ucla.edu (Arne Elofsson) Message-Id: <9309181857.AA23265@ewald.mbi.ucla.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Monte Carlo code for Proteins. Hi. Has someone any Monte Carlo code for proteins. I am looking for full (heavy) atom based code working in dihedral/angular space but anything would be welcome. I'm trying to incorporate some "Monte Carlo" like features in a genetic algorithm for all heavy atom proteins. arne PS. I now that someone out there has a MC code for charmm23, but I do not know who and I do not know how it is implemented. PPS. Even simplified models, as by Dill, Knapp etc might be of interest From chandra@yorvic.york.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 06:26:44 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA10466; Tue, 28 Sep 93 06:26:44 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA18147; Tue, 28 Sep 93 06:20:55 EDT From: Chandra Verma Date: Tue, 28 Sep 93 11:17:57 GMT Message-Id: <15392.9309281117@bill> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@edu.harvard.harvard Subject: LIPIDS Has anyone modelled lipids and lipid/aqueous interfaces. If so i would be interested in discussing some aspects From @BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU:BUSATH@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU Tue Sep 28 11:52:09 1993 Received: from brownvm.brown.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA10998; Tue, 28 Sep 93 11:52:09 -0400 Message-Id: <9309281552.AA10998@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4907; Tue, 28 Sep 93 11:44:15 EDT Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin BUSATH@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3766; Tue, 28 Sep 1993 11:44:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 93 11:29:36 EDT From: David Busath Subject: lipids To: CHARMM-BBS Chandra Verma asked if anyone has modeled lipids and lipid-H2o interfaces. Tom Woolf, a postdoc with Benoit Roux, has been working on a small system this past year (WoolfT@ere.umontreal.ca). He got a set of equilibrated PC structures from Rick Pastor at the NIH. Rick is associated with Bernie Brooks there. Either Tom or Bernie can get you Rick's address. My last address for Bernie was OQI@NIHCU.bitnet. Also, Berendsen and Van Gunsteren (the Netherlands) reported some computations: I have references to papers on membranes in 1980, '82, '83, and '86 if you'ld like, and they probably have other newer stuff. There was a nice report of a "Molecular Dynamics Simulation of a Phopholipid Micelle" in a water ball by Wendoloski et al in Science 243:636-638, 1989. Hope this helps a little. -Dave Busath From heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de Tue Sep 28 12:47:27 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11066; Tue, 28 Sep 93 12:47:27 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA25686; Tue, 28 Sep 93 12:41:32 EDT Received: by nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (911016.SGI/IDA-1.2.8/bs-900607) id AA18750; Tue, 28 Sep 93 17:39:42 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 93 17:39:42 +0100 From: Helmut Heller Message-Id: <9309281639.AA18750@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: lipids Cc: heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de Hello, I just wanted to add another recent simulation of a bilayer of 200 POPC lipds and about 5000 water molecules done by myself, M. Schaefer and K. Schulten to the list of simulations posted by Dave Busath recently. The results have been published in the Journal of Physical Chemistry as @article{HELL92, author={Helmut Heller and Michael Schaefer and Klaus Schulten}, title={Molecular Dynamics Simulation of a Bilayer of 200~Lipids in the Gel and in the Liquid Crystal Phases}, journal=JPC, year=1993, volume=97, pages={8343--8360}, note={[Beckman Institute Technical Report UIUC-BI-AI-RCV-92-18 and UIUC-BI-AI-RCV-93-03]}, loc={Membrane~3} } and the pdb files of various structures are available by anonymous ftp from ftp@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de in the directory pub/membrane. I hope you will find this information helpful, Helmut Heller Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail accepted_________________ FAX: 089/2805-248 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: 089/2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------- Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group Theresienstr. 37, 80333 Munich, GERMANY From ryszard@MSI.COM Tue Sep 28 13:04:46 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11095; Tue, 28 Sep 93 13:04:46 -0400 Received: from hogan.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27257; Tue, 28 Sep 93 12:58:59 EDT Received: by hogan.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15086; Tue, 28 Sep 1993 12:58:57 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 12:58:57 -0400 From: ryszard@MSI.COM (Ryszard Czerminski X 285) Message-Id: <9309281658.AA15086@hogan.MSI.COM> To: charmm-bbs Subject: lipids During 1993 ACS meeting in Chicago Terry R. Stouch from Bristol-Myers Squibb (stouch@bms.com) and co-workers (D. Bassolino, H.E. Alper) presented results of massive simulations. Their main interest was in simulating diffusion of small ligands in biomembranes. Ryszard Czerminski From @BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU:BUSATH@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU Tue Sep 28 14:38:20 1993 Received: from brownvm.brown.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11568; Tue, 28 Sep 93 14:38:20 -0400 Message-Id: <9309281838.AA11568@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6892; Tue, 28 Sep 93 14:30:27 EDT Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin BUSATH@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 6586; Tue, 28 Sep 1993 14:30:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 93 14:29:20 EDT From: David Busath Subject: lipids To: CHARMM-BBS Here is an additional ref plus the refs to the early Groningen work I alluded to earlier: EDHOLM, O., AND JOHANSSON, J. 1987. MOLECULAR DYNAMICS STUDIES OF MODEL MEMBRANES WITH ALFA HELICES. IN STRUCTURE, DYNAMICS, AND FUNCTION OF BIOMOLECULES. SPRINGER-VERLAG. EHRENBERG, RIGLER, GRASSLUND, & NILSSON, EDS. Berendsen and/or van Gunsteren et al. (pre -'87) Molecular dynamics of model membranes. Biophys. Struct. Mechanisms 6:106 1980. abstract in Supple. Molecular dynamics of membranes. Thesis by van der Ploeg for Univ. of Groningen, 1982. Molecular dynamics of a bilayer membrane. Mol. Phys. 49:233-248. 1983 Conformational entropy of a bilyaer membrane derived from a molecular dynamics study. Mol. Phys. 48:379-388. 1983. Molecular dynamics of a bilayer membrane with atomic detail. In: Structure, Dynamics, and Function of Biomolecules (1986), pp 275-280 Springer. Hope this helps some more... -Dave Busath END --> sep93.log <--- BEGIN --> oct93.log <--- OCT93.log -- Mon, 04 Oct 93 17:31:35 BST Via: uk.ac.reading; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 17:31:47 +0100 Received: from reading.ac.uk by susssys1.reading.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <07974-0@susssys1.reading.ac.uk>; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 17:17:16 +0100 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 15:27:02 +0100 (BST) From: Barbara Rosi-Schwartz Subject: Vibrational modes analysis To: CHARMM Bulletin Board Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello everyone. Does anybody have a "sample" instruction file for a CHARMm vibratonal analysis that he/she would be willing to share with me? I'm trying to explore vibrational dynamics in some polymers, comparing the CHARMm results with experiment. I've gotten a basic procedure working, but I must say the analysis of the normal modes obtained is very incomplete; I would need some advice on a "typical" strategy for it, since the manuals I've got are not very helpful (using CHARMM from Quanta). Thanks a lot and do forgive me if I am being a bit naive. Barbara ///////////////////// / / /////////// / / / Barbara Rosi-Schwartz / / Polymer Science Centre / P O L Y M E R / J.J.Thomson Physical Laboratory / / University of Reading, Whiteknights / P H Y S I C S / Reading RG6 2AF -- United Kingdom / / tel: +44 (0)734 875123 ext. 7605 / G R O U P / fax: +44 (0)734 750203 / /////////// e-mail: spsrosi@reading.ac.uk / / /////////// From blandrum@halnet.com Wed Oct 6 09:35:27 1993 Received: from interlock.halnet.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA21038; Wed, 6 Oct 93 09:35:27 -0400 Received: by interlock.halnet.com id AA07694 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 1.1 for CHARMM-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Wed, 6 Oct 1993 08:26:38 -0500 Received: by interlock.halnet.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Wed, 6 Oct 1993 08:26:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 08:18:49 -0500 From: blandrum@halnet.com (Bruce E. Landrum) Message-Id: <9310061318.AA15971@cre1> To: CHARMM-bbs Subject: vibrational analysis Cc: Barbara Rosi-Schwartz asked about a sample instruction file for a CHARMm vibrational analysis. Following is a portion of a script that MSI provided to one of our researchers. It is not well documented, and the CHARMm dictionarydoes not really help all that much. I've tried to run this with simple molecules, benzene, etc., and have not gotten very good results. Since the results are only as good as the information that is fed in, and if you need accurate vibrational analysis, I feel an ab initio program should be used. For what its worth, here it is. =============================================================================== Bruce E. Landrum blandrum@halnet.com Halliburton Energy Services P.O. Drawer 1431 Phone 405/251-4470 Duncan, OK 73536-0438 Fax 405/251-4155 =============================================================================== FAST 0 SHAKE OFF SKIPE NONE ! Do some SD - make sure its minimized ! MINI SD - NSTE 1000 NPRI 10 TOLG 0.000000 STEP 0.020000 TOLS 0.000000 TOLENR 0.000100 - INBFRQ 5 CUTNB 12.000000 CTONNB 8.500000 CTOFNB 9.500000 - VSHIFT SHIFT CDIE EPS 1.000000 - IHBFRQ 0 - IMGFRQ 5 CUTIM 12.5000000 ! get energy & print gete print printe iprint print energy ic fill ic purge !print ic ! Calculate vibrational spectrum ! Vibran requires all energy terms to be defined vibra ! Diagonalize to generate the normal modes, max atoms = 300 diag ! Potential energy distribution, many options ped modes 7 thru 24 tole 0.1 !print normal mode information print norm STOP From dchin Wed Oct 6 12:40:35 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA21347; Wed, 6 Oct 93 12:40:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 93 12:40:35 -0400 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9310061640.AA21347@emperor.harvard.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: A little more on Vibrational analysis Hello all, I would like to make a suggestion or two for the vibrational script that Bruce posted: In vibrational analysis: Since you are assuming that only small harmonic modes are occruring in molecule that is at (or very close) to a energy minimum, you must first perform a rigorous minimization (after using methods like SD or CONJ), so use newton raphson, NRAP (i dont think Stepest Descents is good for vibra analysis, 1st derivatives methods dont converge well). If you can not spare the comptational time for NRAP, ABNR is a good compromise. I would also set the NSTEP value to some high number and set the tolerance in the energy gradient as the criteria for stopping the minimization , (tolgrd) on the order of 1e-8 or 1e-12 depending on your level of error you wish to tolerate (these numbers are my choice). Remember, if your first 6 modes are not 0 then you are not at a minimum (charmm spits modes out). If you have many very low frequencies (0 Subject: Energy When doing an energy calculation, is there a way to obtain as part of the output the energy produced by specific pre-choosen atom interactions? I need to obtain the individual contribution to the total enrgy of certain specific atom pairs. Is there a way to do this? I have modified the CHARMm scripts I have, but with no success so far. If somebody could tell me how to implement this in a CHARMm script I'll appreciate it. Thank you. Mario Jarrin Chemistry Dpt. U. of MA at Lowell From MEDCHEM@LIFE.UAMS.EDU Thu Oct 7 01:02:01 1993 Received: from life.uams.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA22177; Thu, 7 Oct 93 01:02:01 -0400 Received: from LIFE.UAMS.EDU by LIFE.UAMS.EDU (PMDF #4192 ) id <01H3T73U0VSWAUTDSA@LIFE.UAMS.EDU>; Wed, 6 Oct 1993 23:55:33 CST Date: 06 Oct 1993 23:55:33 -0600 (CST) From: MEDCHEM@LIFE.UAMS.EDU Subject: MD in acetenotrile To: charmm-bbs Message-Id: <01H3T73U0VSYAUTDSA@LIFE.UAMS.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT We are interested in running a MS simulation in acetenotrile. Does anybody has try this using charmm? J. P. Smith From robert@sg1.oc.wau.nl Thu Oct 7 03:33:17 1993 Received: from Sun2.IenD.WAU.NL by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA22245; Thu, 7 Oct 93 03:33:17 -0400 Received: from Sg1.OC.wau.nl by Sun2.IenD.wau.nl (4.1/1.34) id AA08798; Thu, 7 Oct 93 08:27:21 +0100 Received: by Sg1.OC.wau.nl (911016.SGI/SMI-4.1) id AA06742; Thu, 7 Oct 93 07:27:01 GMT Date: Thu, 7 Oct 93 07:27:01 GMT From: robert@sg1.oc.wau.nl (Robert Schrijvers) Message-Id: <9310070727.AA06742@Sg1.OC.wau.nl> To: charmm-bbs Subject: RE Energy A few months ago I asked about the "ENER IPRINT IMAXP" and got the answer that this did not work in the latest charmm versions. If one is interested in only specific atom pair interactions the command "INTEraction [ COMP ] [ NOPRint ] 2x(atom-selection) [UNIT int]" will calculate the energy terms between the first and second atom-selection. Robert. Robert Schrijvers Molecular Modeling & Design Department of Organic Chemistry Agricultural University Wageningen Dreijenplein 8 6703 HB Wageningen The Netherlands Phone: 08370-82364 FAX:08370-84914 e-mail: robert@SG1.OC.WAU.NL From @ib.rl.ac.uk:spsrosi@reading.ac.uk Tue Oct 12 03:36:42 1993 Received: from ib.rl.ac.uk by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA01908; Tue, 12 Oct 93 03:36:42 -0400 Received: from letterbox.rl.ac.uk by ib.rl.ac.uk (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with TCP; Tue, 12 Oct 93 08:30:19 BST Via: uk.ac.reading; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 08:31:16 +0100 Received: from reading.ac.uk by susssys1.reading.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <12091-0@susssys1.reading.ac.uk>; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 08:30:26 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 08:28:10 +0100 (BST) From: Barbara Rosi-Schwartz Subject: vibrational modes analysis -- thanks To: CHARMM Bulletin Board Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I received very enlightening responses to my query on vibrational dynamics calculations. Bruce Landrum and Donovan Chin replied publicly, commenting on the basic VIBRAN commands. Jeremy Smith, from Saclay, pointed me to a promising JCP paper -- to be published soon -- in which MD is used to study low frequency vibrational dynamics in poly(acetylene). David Perhaia, from Orsay, sent me detailed documentation on VIBRAN and a very useful (and long!) sample input file. Finally Krzysztof Kuczera, from Kansas, suggested the use of the alternative command MOLVIB, again sending a lot of documentation and examples. A thousand thanks (as we italians say) to all of them, it is indeed an extremely appreciated (and needed!) contribution. Anybody who is interested in the details of the replies can feel free to contact me. Barbara ///////////////////// / / /////////// / / / Barbara Rosi-Schwartz / / Polymer Science Centre / P O L Y M E R / J.J.Thomson Physical Laboratory / / University of Reading, Whiteknights / P H Y S I C S / Reading RG6 2AF -- United Kingdom / / tel: +44 (0)734 875123 ext. 7605 / G R O U P / fax: +44 (0)734 750203 / /////////// e-mail: spsrosi@reading.ac.uk / / /////////// From @ib.rl.ac.uk:spsrosi@reading.ac.uk Tue Oct 12 08:33:56 1993 Received: from ib.rl.ac.uk by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA02018; Tue, 12 Oct 93 08:33:56 -0400 Received: from letterbox.rl.ac.uk by ib.rl.ac.uk (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with TCP; Tue, 12 Oct 93 13:27:35 BST Via: uk.ac.reading; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 13:28:24 +0100 Received: from reading.ac.uk by susssys1.reading.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <00301-0@susssys1.reading.ac.uk>; Fri, 8 Oct 1993 13:23:48 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 13:22:39 +0100 (BST) From: Barbara Rosi-Schwartz Original-Sender: Barbara Rosi-Schwartz Reply-To: Barbara Rosi-Schwartz Subject: Vibrational analysis again To: CHARMM Bulletin Board Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I forgot to mention that anybody who might be interested in the details of the responses I got can feel free to contact me. Barbara ///////////////////// / / /////////// / / / Barbara Rosi-Schwartz / / Polymer Science Centre / P O L Y M E R / J.J.Thomson Physical Laboratory / / University of Reading, Whiteknights / P H Y S I C S / Reading RG6 2AF -- United Kingdom / / tel: +44 (0)734 875123 ext. 7605 / G R O U P / fax: +44 (0)734 750203 / /////////// e-mail: spsrosi@reading.ac.uk / / /////////// From becky@MSI.COM Tue Oct 12 11:14:24 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA02153; Tue, 12 Oct 93 11:14:24 -0400 Received: from franz.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18879; Tue, 12 Oct 93 11:08:23 EDT Received: by franz.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA35157; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 11:08:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 11:08:22 -0400 From: becky@MSI.COM (Becky Rone X 276) Message-Id: <9310121508.AA35157@franz.MSI.COM> To: charmm-bbs Subject: docking Does anyone have a copy of the old CHARMM script which docks a small molecule to a protein? I think it used "lock and key" and the orient commands. Thanks. From gilquin@goliath.saclay.cea.fr Thu Oct 14 05:14:52 1993 Received: from mhs-relay.cs.wisc.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04193; Thu, 14 Oct 93 05:14:52 -0400 X400-Received: by mta mhs-relay.cs.wisc.edu in /PRMD=XNREN/ADMD= /C=US/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Oct 1993 04:08:08 +0000 X400-Received: by /PRMD=inria/ADMD=atlas/C=fr/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Oct 1993 04:08:04 +0000 X400-Received: by /PRMD=cea/ADMD=atlas/C=FR/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Oct 1993 04:10:00 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 04:10:00 +0000 X400-Originator: gilquin@goliath.saclay.cea.fr X400-Recipients: charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=cea/ADMD=atlas/C=FR/;750590099@oeillet.saclay.cea.fr] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) From: gilquin@goliath.saclay.cea.fr Message-Id: <9310140910.AA05265@goliath.saclay.cea.fr> To: charmm-bbs Hi People from SGI tall me that a parallelized version of charmm22g2 on SGI machine challenge was develop in Harvard. I would like to know if this parallelized version of charmm22g2 is available. Thanks Sincerely yours Dr Bernard GILQUIN Centre d Etude Nucleaire de Saclay Departement des Sciences du Vivant Laboratoire d Ingenierie des Proteines e-mail: gilquin@goliath.sacaly.cea.fr From gilquin@goliath.saclay.cea.fr Thu Oct 14 05:22:53 1993 Received: from mhs-relay.cs.wisc.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04205; Thu, 14 Oct 93 05:22:53 -0400 X400-Received: by mta mhs-relay.cs.wisc.edu in /PRMD=XNREN/ADMD= /C=US/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Oct 1993 04:16:36 +0000 X400-Received: by /PRMD=inria/ADMD=atlas/C=fr/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Oct 1993 04:16:32 +0000 X400-Received: by /PRMD=cea/ADMD=atlas/C=FR/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Oct 1993 04:18:26 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 04:18:26 +0000 X400-Originator: gilquin@goliath.saclay.cea.fr X400-Recipients: charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=cea/ADMD=atlas/C=FR/;750590607@oeillet.saclay.cea.fr] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: charmm22g2_on... From: gilquin@goliath.saclay.cea.fr Message-Id: <9310140918.AA05308@goliath.saclay.cea.fr> To: charmm-bbs Subject: charmm22g2_on_chalange Hi People from SGI told me that a parallelized version of charmm22g2 on SGI machine challenge was develop in Harvard. I would like to know if this parallelized version of charmm22g2 is available. Thanks Sincerely yours Dr Bernard GILQUIN Centre d Etude Nucleaire de Saclay Departement des Sciences du Vivant Laboratoire d Ingenierie des Proteines e-mail: gilquin@goliath.sacaly.cea.fr From schaad@scsun.unige.ch Thu Oct 14 08:19:25 1993 Received: from chx400.switch.ch by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04286; Thu, 14 Oct 93 08:19:25 -0400 X400-Received: by mta chx400.switch.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=CH/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Oct 1993 13:13:02 +0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Oct 1993 13:12:53 +0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Oct 1993 13:12:47 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 13:12:47 +0100 X400-Originator: schaad@scsun.unige.ch X400-Recipients: charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/;931014131247] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 407 From: Schaad Olivier Message-Id: <407*/S=schaad/OU=scsun/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> To: charmm-bbs Subject: CHARMM on IBM SP1 Dear sirs, I would like to known if somebody has tested CHARMM on the new parralel computer IBM SP1 Thanks Olivier Schaad E-mail schaad@scsun.unige.ch From brbrooks@helix.nih.gov Wed Oct 20 16:24:38 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA10927; Wed, 20 Oct 93 16:24:38 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA15148; Wed, 20 Oct 93 16:18:33 EDT Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA12820; Wed, 20 Oct 93 16:18:25 -0400 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA21497; Wed, 20 Oct 93 16:18:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 93 16:18:24 -0400 From: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov (Bernie Brooks) Message-Id: <9310202018.AA21497@helix.nih.gov> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, schaad@scsun.unige.ch Subject: Re: CHARMM on IBM SP1 Dear Olivier, We do have CHARMM running in parallel on the IBM SP1. Here is a general documentation file concerning the supported features and appropriate use for parallel CHARMM. Bernie Brooks  File: parallel, Node: Parallel, Up: (c22doc/charmm.doc), previous: (c22doc/usage.doc), Next: (c22doc/support.doc) How to use CHARMM on parallel platforms by Milan Hodoscek and Bernard R. Brooks CHARMM has been modified to allow computationally intensive simulations to be run on multi-machines using a replicated data model. This version, though employing a full communication scheme, uses an efficient divide-and-conquer algorthm for global sums and broadcasts. Curently the following hardware platforms are supported: 1. Intel hypercube iPSC/860 gamma machine 2. Intel Delta machine 3. Thinking Machines CM-5 4. IBM SP1 machine 5. Any group of unix machines connected with TCP/IP =============================================================================== Running CHARMM on parallel systems: ------------------------------------------------- 1. Intel gamma Because the fortran compiler on the Intel gamma does not know how to rewind the redirected input file the program uses charmm.inp file name from current working directory. The script for running CHARMM should look like the following example: cp input_file.inp charmm.inp getcube -t128 > output_file load ~charmm/c23f2/exec/intel/charmm23 waitcube Preflx directives required: INTEL UNIX PARALLEL PARAFULL ------------------------------------------------- 2. Intel Delta mexec "-t(32,16)" ~charmm/c23f2/exec/intel/charmm23 output_file & Preflx directives required: INTEL UNIX DELTA PARALLEL PARAFULL ------------------------------------------------- 3. CM-5 ~charmm/c23f2/exec/cm5/charmm23 output_file & Preflx directives required:CM5 UNIX PARALLEL PARAFULL ------------------------------------------------- 4. IBM SP1 I don't know yet.... (CHARMM is fully running, but IBM is still working on OS) Preflx directives required:IBMRS UNIX IBMSP1 PARALLEL PARAFULL ------------------------------------------------- 5. PARALLEL VERSION OF CHARMM23 ON WORKSTATION CLUSTERS Preflx directives required: machine_type UNIX PARALLEL SOCKET PARAFULL SYNCHRON Currently the code runs on HP and IBM RS/6000 machines. This has been tested. The rest of UNIX world should run too without any changes as long as the following is true: ------------------------------------------------- Assumptions for cluster environment: Before you run CHARMM you have to define some environment variables. If you define nothing then CHARMM will run in a scalar mode, i.e. default is one node run. (We could adopt PARALLEL keyword in pref.dat as default.) PWD The program supports two shells: KornShell and tcsh, which is available from anonymous ftp. The only difference on which CHARMM makes assumption is definition of variable PWD. This variable is correctly defined in ksh and tcsh by default, so using csh you sometimes need to define it. Variable PWD points to your current working directory. If you want that CHARMM uses some other directory as default you may change it appropriately. The program can figure out current working directory by itself but there are problems in some NFS environments, because home directory names can vary on different machines.( PWD is always defined correctly by shell which supports it! ) So csh may sometimes cause problems. Using csh you may define your cd command that it always defines also PWD. This is done with something like: alias cd 'chdir \!* ; setenv PWD $cwd ' in your ~/.cshrc file. If you get an error which looks something like nonexistent directory then define PWD variable directly. If you want to use tcsh as your login shell you may run the following command: runall chsh username /usr/local/bin/tcsh runall is a script which runs the command on the whole cluster of machines it is on /usr/local/bin at NIH. NODEx In order to run CHARMM on more then one node you have to define environment variables NODE0, NODE1, ... NODEn. Currently then combine routines support only power of 2 number of nodes, but this will change in the future. Example: 4 node run setenv NODE0 par0 setenv NODE1 par1 setenv NODE2 par2 setenv NODE3 par4 charmm23 < input_file > output_file 1:parameter1 2:parameter2 ... For this script, "par0,par1,par2,.." is the name of a machine in the local network. There is no requirement that all machines should be of the same type. There is nothing in the program to adjust for unequal load balance so all nodes will follow the slowest one. In near future we may implement dynamic load balance method based on actual time required. The assumption here is that the node from where CHARMM program is started is always NODE0! Setup for your login environment In order to run CHARMM in parallel you have to be able to rlogin to any of the nodes defined in NODEx environment variables. Before you run CHARMM check this out: rlogin NODE1 if it doesn't ask you for Password then you are OK. If it asks for Password then put a line like this: machine_name user_name in your ~/.rhosts file. (This is the same requirement as for running batch system on HP) How to submit job to HP. Currently we have assigned machines par0, par1, par2, and par4 to work in parallel. You may use script /usr/local/bin/charmm23.parallel and submit it to par0. Example: submit par0 charmm23.parallel output_file ^D To construct your own parallel scripts look at /usr/local/bin/charmm23.parallel In the input scripts Everything should work, but avoid usage of iolev and prnlev in your parallel scripts. BUGS: On HPUX when programs execute fork() it copies itself with double memory requirememnts for a short period of time. This means that on node zero you have to have enough memory to hold two CHARMM jobs at once. If this is of any trouble a launcher program may be very easily written. It will not require much memory and it will be able to read a file where you can define which node is executing which code, so this would work also on very complicated network environment. =============================================================================== Parallel code status (as of October 1993) The symbol ++ indicates that parallel code development is underway. ------------------------------------------------------ Fully parallel and functional features: Energy evaluation ENERgy, GETE MINImization DYNAmics (leap frog integrator) BLOCK CRYSTAL IMAGES CONStraints (SHAKE,HARM,IC,DIHEdral,FIX,NOE) ANAL (energy partition) NBONds (generic) ------------------------------------------------------ Functional, but nonparallel code in the parallel version (no speedup): ( ** indicates that these can be very computationally intensive and are not recommended on parallel systems) VIBRAN ** CORREL **(Except for the energy time series evaluation, which is parallel) READ, WRITE, and PRINT (I/O in general) CORMAN commands HBONds HBUIld ** IC (internal coordinate commands) SCALar commands CONStraints (setup, DROPlet, SBOUnd) Miscellaneous commands GENErate, PATCh, DELEte, JOIN, RENAme, IMPAtch (all PSF modification commands) MERGE NBONDS (BYCUbe option) QUANtum ** ++ QUICk REWInd (not fully supported on the Intel) SOLANA EWALD ** ------------------------------------------------------ Nonfunctional code in parallel version: PERT (just doesn't work yet) ++ ANAL (table generation) DYNAmics (old integrator, NOSE integrator) GRAPhics INTEraction energy TSM MMFP PATH RISM TRAVEL RXNCOR ------------------------------------------------------ Untested Features (we don't know if it works or not): ANALysis MOLVIB (No testcase for this code?) MONItor NMR PRESsure (the command) RMSD =============================================================================== End. From xi@garie-beach.rice.edu Wed Oct 20 17:35:00 1993 Received: from moe.rice.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11081; Wed, 20 Oct 93 17:35:00 -0400 Received: from garie-beach.rice.edu by moe.rice.edu (AA15954); Wed, 20 Oct 93 16:28:51 CDT Received: by garie-beach.rice.edu (920330.SGI/) (for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu) id AA14023; Wed, 20 Oct 93 16:28:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 93 16:28:51 -0500 From: xi@garie-beach.rice.edu (David Xi) Message-Id: <9310202128.AA14023@garie-beach.rice.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: lists Can I get a list of the charmm user? From tao@ucxray6.berkeley.edu Wed Oct 20 23:01:59 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA12372; Wed, 20 Oct 93 23:01:59 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA20703; Wed, 20 Oct 93 22:55:57 EDT Received: by ucxray6.berkeley.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu id AA09044; Wed, 20 Oct 93 19:56:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 93 19:56:08 -0700 From: tao@ucxray6.berkeley.edu (Tao Zhang) Message-Id: <9310210256.AA09044@ucxray6.berkeley.edu> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: Get academic charmm Hi, I like to know how to get an academic version of Charmm. I am currently using Charmm22 distributed with Quanta3.3 by MSI (Molecular Simulations Inc.) Are newer versions of Charmm (> 22) available for academic users ? Thanks ! T. Zhang Dept. of MCB UC Berkeley From steven@cell.BIH.Harvard.Edu Fri Oct 22 10:02:25 1993 Received: from cell.bih.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA14387; Fri, 22 Oct 93 10:02:25 -0400 Received: by cell.bih.harvard.edu (4.1/SMI-DDN) id AA00298; Fri, 22 Oct 93 09:56:15 EDT Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 09:56:15 EDT From: steven@cell.BIH.Harvard.Edu (Steven Blechner) Message-Id: <9310221356.AA00298@cell.bih.harvard.edu> To: charmm-bbs I find it necessary to use the "GENERATE SETUP" command on PDB files that do not have segment name. For small files I have been using the csh "pdb_charmm" written by T. Mitchell to add a fake SEGID column to the pdb files. However, when the files are large, the csh procedure fails (i think it has something to do with a limit on the total number of characters < 10240...). Before i write a quick C program: Does anyone have code to convert large pdb files without segment names into pdb files WITH segment names added so that CHARMm can understand them? -steve steven@cell.bih.harvard.edu From steven@cell.BIH.Harvard.Edu Fri Oct 22 10:10:42 1993 Received: from cell.bih.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA14398; Fri, 22 Oct 93 10:10:42 -0400 Received: by cell.bih.harvard.edu (4.1/SMI-DDN) id AA00323; Fri, 22 Oct 93 10:04:32 EDT Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 10:04:32 EDT From: steven@cell.BIH.Harvard.Edu (Steven Blechner) Message-Id: <9310221404.AA00323@cell.bih.harvard.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: pdb to charmm... I find it necessary to use the "GENERATE SETUP" command on PDB files that do not have a segment name. For small molecules, I have been using the csh procedure: "pdb_charmm" written by T. Mitchell to add a fake SEGID column to the PDB files. However, when the files are large, the csh procedure fails (i think it has something to do with a limit on the total number of words < 10240...). Before i write a quick C program: Does anyone have code to convert large pdb files without segment names into pdb files WITH segment names added so that CHARMm can understand them ? -steve steven@cell.bih.harvard.edu From @BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU:BUSATH@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU Fri Oct 22 13:19:10 1993 Received: from brownvm.brown.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA14702; Fri, 22 Oct 93 13:19:10 -0400 Message-Id: <9310221719.AA14702@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5854; Fri, 22 Oct 93 13:10:20 EDT Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin BUSATH@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 6789; Fri, 22 Oct 1993 13:10:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 13:05:43 EDT From: David Busath Subject: INTE Bug? To: CHARMM-BBS In charmm22 (MSI version): We tried to compute the interaction energy between a calcium ion and 2799 TIP3 water atoms using: INTE SELE ATOM CAL * * END SELE ATOM SOLV * * END After correctly selecting the atoms, charmm dies with a Segmentation fault. Have we run into a dimension limitation? (The stream file does nothing else but read in the 2896 atom structure). -Dave Busath and Rachel Brem From kmoore@chem.duke.edu Fri Oct 22 16:41:38 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA15685; Fri, 22 Oct 93 16:41:38 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for CHARMM-BBS@emperor) id AA28738; Fri, 22 Oct 93 16:35:29 EDT Received: from london.chem.duke.edu by duke.cs.duke.edu (5.65/3.6G/4.1.3) id AA21233; Fri, 22 Oct 93 16:35:15 -0400 Received: from dbc2.chem.duke.edu by london.chem.duke.edu (5.64/1.19LP/4.1.1) id AA22092; Fri, 22 Oct 93 16:35:14 -0400 Received: by dbc2.chem.duke.edu (5.64/2.12L/4.1) id AA26841; Fri, 22 Oct 93 16:35:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 16:35:13 -0400 From: kmoore@chem.duke.edu (Kevin Moore) Message-Id: <9310222035.AA26841@dbc2.chem.duke.edu> To: CHARMM-BBS%emperor@harvard Subject: mailing list... Please remove me from the mailing list. Thanks. {It is probably pointing to kmoore@ncsc.org} ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ || Kevin D. Moore, PhD Tailored Data Solutions, Ltd. || || Programmer/Scientist P.O. Box 37314 || || (804) 275-3946 Richmond, VA 23234 || ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From arne@ewald.mbi.ucla.edu Sun Oct 24 19:10:52 1993 Received: from ewald.mbi.ucla.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA18480; Sun, 24 Oct 93 19:10:52 -0400 Received: by ewald.mbi.ucla.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA14417; Sun, 24 Oct 93 15:51:52 -0700 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 93 15:51:52 -0700 From: arne@ewald.mbi.ucla.edu (Arne Elofsson) Message-Id: <9310242251.AA14417@ewald.mbi.ucla.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: AMBER/OPLS parameters in CHARMM format. HI. As i am in the procedure of testing different parameters (as well as cutoffs etc) for protein simulations with charmm, I wonder if someone has a topology and parameter file with any other parameter sets than the param 19,20,22. I would greatly appreciate any other parameter files. arne arne@uclaue.mbi.ucla.edu From blandrum@halnet.com Mon Oct 25 09:43:20 1993 Received: from interlock.halnet.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA18951; Mon, 25 Oct 93 09:43:20 -0400 Received: by interlock.halnet.com id AA10808 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 1.1 for CHARMM-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Mon, 25 Oct 1993 08:34:29 -0500 Received: by interlock.halnet.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 25 Oct 1993 08:34:29 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 08:37:21 -0500 From: blandrum@halnet.com (Bruce E. Landrum) Message-Id: <9310251337.AA27713@cre1> To: CHARMM-bbs Subject: CHARMm on SP1 Cc: One of our researchers has been testing CHARMm on a SP1. This is not benchmarking, but real research-type testing. His conclusions: At first the switching technology had a problem, but with the advent of newer technology, it has improved. The OS needs great improvement. (As did AIX when it was first released). Bottom line right now is that you really don't get any improvement in performance with going to a greater number of nodes. CHARMm running on 4 nodes does not improve throughput compared to 2 jobs running on 2 nodes. In fact, it takes longer with 4 nodes. It is questionable whether 2 nodes is better than 1. If you are looking for improvement of wall time, you'll get it. The overhead is too great at this time for throughput improvement. Another consideration is that if long-term calculations (some of ours takes several weeks) are being considered on this (or any) platform, it should not be done on one which also is being used by a great number of users especially if they are developing software. The administrator has a tendency to be quick on the big red (yellow in this case) button. We are very optimistic about this platform's future. We had one of the first available 530s. We paid for it with higher prices and less mature OS. We have decided to wait on this decision until the SP1 is as mature as our current 560. Thanks, Bruce E. Landrum =============================================================================== Halliburton Energy Services blandrum@halnet.com P.O. Drawer 1431 Phone 405/251-4470 Duncan, OK 73536-0438 Fax 405/251-4155 =============================================================================== From milan@helix.nih.gov Mon Oct 25 10:57:36 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA19026; Mon, 25 Oct 93 10:57:36 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for CHARMM-bbs@emperor) id AA05106; Mon, 25 Oct 93 10:51:27 EDT Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA18000; Mon, 25 Oct 93 10:51:24 -0400 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA05524; Mon, 25 Oct 93 10:51:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 10:51:00 -0400 From: milan@helix.nih.gov (Milan Hodoscek) Message-Id: <9310251451.AA05524@helix.nih.gov> To: blandrum@halnet.com (Bruce E. Landrum) Cc: CHARMM-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: CHARMm on SP1 In-Reply-To: <9310251337.AA27713@cre1> References: <9310251337.AA27713@cre1> Bruce E. Landrum writes: > ______________________________________________________________________ > T H E C H A R M M B B S > > One of our researchers has been testing CHARMm on a SP1. This is not > benchmarking, but real research-type testing. His conclusions: > > At first the switching technology had a problem, but with the advent of newer > technology, it has improved. > > The OS needs great improvement. (As did AIX when it was first released). > > Bottom line right now is that you really don't get any improvement in > performance with going to a greater number of nodes. CHARMm running on 4 nodes > does not improve throughput compared to 2 jobs running on 2 nodes. In fact, > it takes longer with 4 nodes. It is questionable whether 2 nodes is better than > 1. If you are looking for improvement of wall time, you'll get it. The overhead > is too great at this time for throughput improvement. I don't know how you came to these conclusion but here are our standard benchmark results for IBM SP1. Unfortunately we have results only for upto 8 nodes: Timing in hours for MbCO + 3830 water molecules (14026 atoms), 1000 steps,\\ 12-14 \AA\ shift on IBM/SP1. Nodes & Eext & Eint & Wait$ & Comm & List & Integ& Total & Efficiency & Speedup 1 &21405.6 & 139.6 & 0.0 & 0.1 & 2103.3 & 33.3 &23681.9 = 6.58 h & 100.0 % & 1.0 2 &10835.3 & 77.6 & 243.0 & 83.7 & 1106.5 & 16.7 &12362.7 = 3.43 h & 95.8 % & 1.9 4 & 5358.7 & 47.5 & 214.2 & 130.6 & 609.3 & 9.2 & 6369.4 = 1.77 h & 93.0 % & 3.7 8 & 2622.1 & 30.8 & 275.8 & 165.8 & 354.8 & 5.0 & 3454.2 = 0.96 h & 85.7 % & 6.9 Nodes = How many processors are doing the job. Eext = nonbonded energy terms Eint = bonded energy terms Wait = measure for load unbalance Comm = Total communication time List = Update of nonbonded atom list Integ = time for integration of equations of motions Total = Total of above in seconds and hours Efficiency = how much of the machine is lost due to load unbalance and communications Speedup = speedup over one processor time. So the bottom line is that it is not so bad machine. The version of Charmm we are running is a little bit fixed c23f2. Milan Hodoscek - milan@helix.nih.gov From blandrum@halnet.com Mon Oct 25 12:13:05 1993 Received: from interlock.halnet.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA19217; Mon, 25 Oct 93 12:13:05 -0400 Received: by interlock.halnet.com id AA10590 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 1.1 for CHARMM-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Mon, 25 Oct 1993 11:04:19 -0500 Received: by interlock.halnet.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 25 Oct 1993 11:04:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 11:07:11 -0500 From: blandrum@halnet.com (Bruce E. Landrum) Message-Id: <9310251607.AA27266@cre1> To: CHARMM-bbs Subject: CHARMm on SP1 Cc: It has been pointed out by both Milan Hodoscek and my cohort that I was more negative than I meant to be and did not represent myself correctly. I apologize to one and all. Some clarifications (I hope): There is always going to be some overhead associated with running on a parallel platform. It all depends upon how much of the overall job is parallelized and how much time is spent in communications between nodes. In the results sent by Milan Hodoscek, it shows that at 8 nodes it costs 1 machine to run that job (ca 16%). To us, that is an acceptable overhead. Some of the routines in CHARMm have not been parallelized. When SHAKE was, it actually cost time, so it was not parallelized. My cohort used periodic boundaries, which currently is not parallelized, on a system of similar size. In his calculations (which I don't have the numbers, only his account-the report is coming), it costs slightly over 1 machine at 4 nodes. So he says that it is better to have 2 jobs running on 2 nodes (only about 10% overhead) than 1 job running on 4 nodes with > 25% overhead. Also, because of not being parallelized, the job with short cutoffs had a greater overhead than that with long cutoffs, that is it spent more time in the non-parallelized/ communications portion. My cohort also says that with the earlier ethernet switching technology, that communications was a bottleneck, but that this has been taken care of. I hope that this clears up my interpretation. Thanks, Bruce E. Landrum =============================================================================== Halliburton Energy Services blandrum@halnet.com P.O. Drawer 1431 Phone 405/251-4470 Duncan, OK 73536-0438 Fax 405/251-4155 =============================================================================== From milan@helix.nih.gov Mon Oct 25 15:54:28 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA19853; Mon, 25 Oct 93 15:54:28 -0400 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for CHARMM-bbs@emperor) id AA10060; Mon, 25 Oct 93 15:47:58 EDT Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA22185; Mon, 25 Oct 93 15:47:43 -0400 Received: by helix.nih.gov (5.64/1.35(helix-1.0)) id AA27568; Mon, 25 Oct 93 15:47:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 15:47:25 -0400 From: milan@helix.nih.gov (Milan Hodoscek) Message-Id: <9310251947.AA27568@helix.nih.gov> To: blandrum@halnet.com (Bruce E. Landrum) Cc: CHARMM-bbs%emperor@harvard Subject: CHARMm on SP1 In-Reply-To: <9310251607.AA27266@cre1> References: <9310251607.AA27266@cre1> Bruce E. Landrum writes: > > Some clarifications (I hope): > > Some of the routines in CHARMm have not been parallelized. When SHAKE was, it > actually cost time, so it was not parallelized. My cohort used periodic > boundaries, which currently is not parallelized, on a system of similar size. Both SHAKE (within groups) and periodic boundaries works fine in parallel version. A week ago Bernie Brooks send parallel.doc file to this BBS where everything what works and what does not in parallel version of CHARMM was explained in more details. Milan Hodoscek (milan@helix.nih.gov) From wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu Tue Oct 26 11:35:39 1993 Received: from mace.cc.purdue.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA21228; Tue, 26 Oct 93 11:35:39 -0400 Received: by mace.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA23777; Tue, 26 Oct 93 10:29:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 10:29:24 -0500 From: wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu (mark wahle) Message-Id: <9310261529.AA23777@mace.cc.purdue.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Energy calculations Dear all, I am having a problem trying to understand an energy calculation that I am using from someone else's script file. I have asked that individual and he is unaware of what is happening. I have also looked in the CHARMm manuals and have found only limited help. The script is below: Energy - INBF 50 ALL CUTHB 0.5 CUTHBA 90.0 ACCE - HBNO CTONHB 0.0 CTOFHB 0.0 CTONHA 50.0 CTOFHA 70.0 - INBF 50 ELEC ATOM NOEX NOGR NOQU CDIE SWIT - VDW VATOM VSWI VDIS - ST2L - CUTNB 8.0 CTONNB 6.5 CTOFNB 7.5 CTEXNB 999.0 - SIGCUT 1.5 SIGADD 0.5 SIGON 1.25 SIGOFF 1.5 - WMIN 1.5 WRNMXD 0.5 SIGMAX 7.5 SIGWRN 0.7 - EPS 1.0 NORXN EPSEXT 80.0 ORDER 10 SHELL 2.0 E14F 1.0 What do the commands that begin with SIG mean? NOEX? NOGR? NOQU? VDIS? ST2L? NORXN? EPSEXT? ORDER? SHELL? Are these commands from an earlier version of CHARMm? Looking in the .log file, none of these commands produce an error. Other questions arise there. What are the nonbond option flags BYGRoup, NOEXtnd, and NOEWald? The log file also shows KAPPA values, KMAX, KSQMAX, NBXMOD, and CTEXNB. What do these variables represent? As I have said, I consulted the CHARMm dictionary manuals and have found no evidence of these variables/commands under the nonbonding specs. I know that the first two lines for the energy calculation are hydrogen bonding specs and I understand them, but the other parts I have indicated are confusing. The whole purpose of this is that I am minimizing a structure after the energy is calculated and I want to make sure that the energy calculation and the minimization calculation are using the same variable limits. Any help that can be given will be greatly appreciated. Mark C. Wahle Dept. of Medicinal Chemistry Purdue University e-mail: wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu END --> oct93.log <--- BEGIN --> nov93.log <--- NOV93.LOG ---------- From wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu Tue Nov 2 09:45:51 1993 Received: from mace.cc.purdue.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA27569; Tue, 2 Nov 93 09:45:51 -0500 Received: by mace.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA04494; Tue, 2 Nov 93 09:39:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 09:39:36 -0500 From: wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu (mark wahle) Message-Id: <9311021439.AA04494@mace.cc.purdue.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: CHARMm energy calc Dear Everyone: I am having a problem trying to understand an energy calculation that I am using from someone else's script file. I have asked that individual and he is unaware of what is happening. I have also looked in the CHARMm manuals and have found only limited help. The script is below: Energy - INBF 50 ALL CUTHB 0.5 CUTHBA 90.0 ACCE - HBNO CTONHB 0.0 CTOFHB 0.0 CTONHA 50.0 CTOFHA 70.0 - INBF 50 ELEC ATOM NOEX NOGR NOQU CDIE SWIT - VDW VATOM VSWI VDIS - ST2L - CUTNB 8.0 CTONNB 6.5 CTOFNB 7.5 CTEXNB 999.0 - SIGCUT 1.5 SIGADD 0.5 SIGON 1.25 SIGOFF 1.5 - WMIN 1.5 WRNMXD 0.5 SIGMAX 7.5 SIGWRN 0.7 - EPS 1.0 NORXN EPSEXT 80.0 ORDER 10 SHELL 2.0 E14F 1.0 What do the commands that begin with SIG mean? NOEX? NOGR? NOQU? VDIS? ST2L? NORXN? EPSEXT? ORDER? SHELL? Are these commands from an earlier version of CHARMm? Looking in the .log file, none of these commands produce an error. Other questions arise there. What are the nonbond option flags BYGRoup, NOEXtnd, and NOEWald? The log file also shows KAPPA values, KMAX, KSQMAX, NBXMOD, and CTEXNB. What do these variables represent? As I have said, I consulted the CHARMm dictionary manuals and have found no evidence of these variables/commands under the nonbonding specs. I know that the first two lines for the energy calculation are hydrogen bonding specs and I understand them, but the other parts I have indicated are confusing. The whole purpose of this is that I am minimizing a structure after the energy is calculated and I want to make sure that the energy calculation and the minimization calculation are using the same variable limits. Any help that can be given will be greatly appreciated. Mark C. Wahle Dept. of Medicinal Chemistry Purdue University e-mail: wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu PS: I sent this message over a week ago but have not received a reply. Does anyone have any idea about what's going on above? From KUN12@caos.caos.kun.nl Tue Nov 2 11:16:27 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA27937; Tue, 2 Nov 93 11:16:27 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA05202; Tue, 2 Nov 93 11:10:09 EST Received: from caos.caos.kun.nl by caos.caos.kun.nl (PMDF V4.2-11 #4030) id <01H4UIBP8Q8W9S3V3S@caos.caos.kun.nl>; Tue, 2 Nov 1993 17:07:58 METDST Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 17:07:57 METDST From: KUN12@caos.caos.kun.nl Subject: CHARMm energy calculations To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard Message-Id: <01H4UIBPAVEQ9S3V3S@caos.caos.kun.nl> X-Vms-To: IN%"charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard.harvard.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Marc, I have simular problems with the CHARMm manuals: the most important things are missing!! About the commands: I don't know all the answers to your questions, but some. The nonbonded spec NOEX means no extended electrostatics used; NOGR means no gradient; NOQU means no quadripoles taken into account,etc. You can find some hints about how these things work in the document- files. I don't know anything about the SIG-commands or ST2 etc. I guess that NOEW means that no Ewald summations are used in the electrostatics. My question is about Ewald summations: Does anyone know how this works in CHARMm22.0?? I tried, but I can't find anything about it neither in the manual, nor in the documentfiles. best regards, Reinier Grimbergen. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RIM labatory of Solid State Chemistry / / \ \ / / / \ / / University of Nijmegen / / / / / / / /\ / / Toernooiveld / / \ \ / / / / / / tel: 080-653071 / / / / / / / / / / e-mail:kun12@caos.caos.kun.nl / / / / / / / / / / -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bobf@MSI.COM Tue Nov 2 15:15:54 1993 Received: from schizoid.msi.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA28200; Tue, 2 Nov 93 15:15:54 -0500 Received: from lurch (lurch.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04564; Tue, 2 Nov 93 15:09:38 EST Received: by lurch (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA10124; Tue, 2 Nov 93 15:09:30 -0500 Message-Id: <9311022009.AA10124@lurch> From: Bob Funchess Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 15:09:30 -0500 Organization: Molecular Simulations Inc. Phone: (617) 229-9800 ext. 202 To: quanta-l@MSI.COM Subject: energy keywords Cc: charmm-bbs In general, a description of the various keywords can be found in one of the files in the $CHM_DATA/doc directory. For the specific keywords that Mark mentions, most of them are given in $CHM_DATA/doc/nbonds.doc; there are a couple of exceptions (KMAX is from cons.doc and NBXMode is from struct.doc). As Craig just mentioned, the documentation issue has been discussed here in the past. MSI is aware of the problem; the support group will be going through the CHARMm dictionary to clear up "Appendix A" and to document the keywords of which no mention at all is made in the printed manuals (like the ones in Mark's script). Regards, Bob Funchess -- Dr. Robert B. Funchess Molecular Simulations Inc. Scientific Support 16 New England Executive Park bobf@msi.com Burlington, MA 01803-5297 (617) 229-9800 x202 FAX (617) 229-9899 From @BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU:BUSATH@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU Tue Nov 2 16:51:04 1993 Received: from brownvm.brown.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA28305; Tue, 2 Nov 93 16:51:04 -0500 Message-Id: <9311022151.AA28305@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5864; Tue, 02 Nov 93 16:42:47 EST Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin BUSATH@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3977; Tue, 2 Nov 1993 16:42:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 16:31:32 EST From: David Busath Subject: SGI installation problem To: CHARMM-BBS I am trying to compile charmm22g2 (July 7, 1992) to correct a small error in rxndef.src that prevents DISTance definition for umbrella sampling, but I am having trouble with cstuff.c compilation. Two questions: 1) Is there an updated version of rxncor that I should be using instead of the version I have? 2) Why might I get this error message: accom: Error: /usr/people/busath/charmm/source/machdep/cstuff.c, line 110: One declaration for getpwuid is non-prototype style, with one prototype; prototype must match default argument promotions (ANSI 3.5.4.3, 3.3.2.2) struct passwd *getpwuid(); *getpwptr; ? I have used both 4.0.1 and 4.0.5 versions of the SGI operating system. Xiaoling Liang at Harvard thought I must have a bad /usr/include/pwd.h because she had no trouble compiling cstuff.c on her sgi. She sent me her /usr/include/pwd.h and I recompiled with it, but got the same error message. (I could verify easily that her version of pwd.h was being used). Unfortunately, she is at a seminar now; does anybody else recognize this problem? Thanks in advance, David Busath From @BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU:BUSATH@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU Tue Nov 2 19:04:23 1993 Received: from brownvm.brown.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA28404; Tue, 2 Nov 93 19:04:23 -0500 Message-Id: <9311030004.AA28404@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7403; Tue, 02 Nov 93 18:56:10 EST Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin BUSATH@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5007; Tue, 2 Nov 1993 18:56:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 18:53:46 EST From: David Busath Subject: SGI compile To: CHARMM-BBS Thanks to Kim Andrews at Rice and Leo at Harvard for the suggestion that I add the -cckr switch to the cc command in machdep.mk. According to Leo, this is an SGI c compiler switch that allows one to stray from ANSI standards. It worked for cstuff.c compilation. -Dave Busath From @BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU:BUSATH@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU Tue Nov 2 22:29:49 1993 Received: from brownvm.brown.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA28806; Tue, 2 Nov 93 22:29:49 -0500 Message-Id: <9311030329.AA28806@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9357; Tue, 02 Nov 93 22:21:34 EST Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin BUSATH@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7403; Tue, 2 Nov 1993 22:21:34 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 22:14:51 EST From: David Busath Subject: compilation woes To: CHARMM-BBS, Mike Pear , Xiaoling Liang , Benoit Roux , Bernie Brooks Trying to compile last years charmm22 (g2) with this year's SGI operating system (4.0.5), I'm running into two roadblocks. If anyone is awake and can give me a clue tonight, I'd be grateful... 1) nbonds.f refuses to compile because, in line 1114 (part of a reasonably short if statement): "out of tree space; simplify expression" 2) space.f refuses to compile because, on line 164 (B+MALLOC(CODE)), : "attempt to use an untyped function" Perhaps space.f needs to be compiled with a c preprocessor? nbonds.f, I have no clue. -Dave From wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu Wed Nov 3 15:43:57 1993 Received: from mace.cc.purdue.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA29391; Wed, 3 Nov 93 15:43:57 -0500 Received: by mace.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA17771; Wed, 3 Nov 93 15:37:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 15:37:41 -0500 From: wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu (mark wahle) Message-Id: <9311032037.AA17771@mace.cc.purdue.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: CHARMm energy update To all who replied: Thanks for all your help. The online documentation has provided a lot of answers. Unfortunately I am a relative novice with CHARMm (6 months) and up to this time have only been able to learn about the parts of CHARMm I use with each project. We grad students don't have much to go into much depth on a lot of things. I have inquired about CHARMm short courses offered by MSI, and hopefully I'll have the time to take them next spring or summer. Until then, I hope I won't bore this bulletin board with too many stupid questions. (Since when was a question ever stupid?) Special thanks to Randy Zauhar, Chandra Verma (very much so), Reinier Grimbergen, Bruce Bush, Tom Hendrickson, Roland Stote, Bob Funchess (MSI wizard!), and Mike Tennant! Both the MSI bulletin board and CHARMm bulletin board gave helpful advice. As for the inadequacies with the documentation, which was a hot topic here a few months back, I agree 100%. A novice like myself needs to have more information available, and the screen copies in the text are nice but don't explain anything more than what I can already see on the screen in front of me! It would save me and I'm sure many others a lot of time if the manuals were able to answer more of our questions. Bob Funchess, or anyone else at MSI who might read this, PLEASE make the improvements in the new documentation worthwhile!! Until next time... Mark C. Wahle Dept. of Medicinal Chemistry Purdue University email: wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu A famous Roman philosopher once wrote, "SEMPER UBI SUB UBI!!!!" From @UKCC.UKY.EDU:CSC001@UKCC.UKY.EDU Mon Nov 8 12:51:34 1993 Received: from ukcc.uky.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA03630; Mon, 8 Nov 93 12:51:34 -0500 Message-Id: <9311081751.AA03630@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: from UKCC.UKY.EDU by UKCC.uky.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6894; Mon, 08 Nov 93 12:44:48 EST Received: from ukcc.uky.edu (NJE origin CSC001@UKCC) by UKCC.UKY.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4202; Mon, 8 Nov 1993 12:44:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 93 12:34:27 EST From: CSC001@UKCC.uky.edu Subject: minimizing solvated peptide To: charmm-bbs I have found fluctuations in energy during minimization of a 'cyclic' peptide (diameter approx 15A) in a 30A box, following essentially the same script as for "solvated glycerol: 7.1-18 polygen charmm manual). The delta-E values can be +200 then -200 kcal/mol in successive steps, followed by termination because "function tol. 0.0 satisfied". The minimization always stops right after a nonbonded list update. Similar results are obtained with: UPDAtes 50, 20, 10 or 5 (though more stable with lower values) cutnb 15 or 8 SD or ABNR with variety of step sizes (0.02 to 0.00001) with or without shake bonh Frequently, the geometry of the solute is deformed by the minimization, leading to problems with equilibration. Any advice would be appreciated. David Ward University of Kentucky From @BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU:BUSATH@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU Tue Nov 9 14:30:39 1993 Received: from brownvm.brown.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04347; Tue, 9 Nov 93 14:30:39 -0500 Message-Id: <9311091930.AA04347@emperor.harvard.edu> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5106; Tue, 09 Nov 93 14:22:04 EST Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin BUSATH@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0438; Tue, 9 Nov 1993 14:21:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Nov 93 14:19:24 EST From: David Busath Subject: umbrella To: CHARMM-BBS Has anyone out there used rxnc, the new umbrella sampling subroutine, to define a linear reaction coordinate (e.g. the ratio of two distances)? We are having some startup problems that seem to be due to errors in the distance definitions. We're using charmm22,g2. -Dave Busath From nicolas@david.saclay.cea.fr Fri Nov 12 04:00:16 1993 Received: from pamir.inria.fr by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA07997; Fri, 12 Nov 93 04:00:16 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=inria/ADMD=atlas/C=fr/; Relayed; 12 Nov 93 09:53:53+0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=cea/ADMD=atlas/C=FR/; Relayed; 12 Nov 93 09:49:22+0100 Date: 12 Nov 93 09:49:22+0100 From: "30MO SBPM Nicolas FOLOPPE" Message-Id: <9311120849.AA04688@david.saclay.cea.fr> To: charmm-bbs Subject : how to calculate the energy of part of a system with CHARMM ? I am facing the following basic problem : how to compute with CHARMM the potential energy of only part of a whole protein ? Let's call REAC that part of the protein for which I need the energy. That energy is the sum of the self energy of REAC (bonded + nonbonded terms) plus the interaction energy between REAC and rest of the protein (bonded and nonbonded terms). I calculated that energy using either the "INTE" subcommand or the "CONS FIX" subcommand. Using INTE (inte sele REAC end sele all end), I've got that result : ---------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- INTE> 1 -901.69311 .00000 1.74967 INTE INTERN> 39.15927 88.98846 3.38105 94.72567 11.82383 INTE EXTERN> -391.35521 -748.41618 .00000 .00000 ---------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Using CONS FIX (cons fix sele all .and. .not. REAC ), I obtain another result : ---------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ENER> 0 -864.08161 .00000 5.66944 ENER INTERN> 39.15927 95.87168 3.38105 123.84037 13.43740 ENER EXTERN> -391.35521 -748.41618 .00000 .00000 ---------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- What surprise me is that some terms (bonds,Urey-Bradley,elec,vdw) are equal although some are not (impropers, dihedrals,valence angles). Is there something wrong in the way I handle those commands ? Is there a rational behind those differences ? Any help or advice is welcomed, Nicolas Foloppe From nicolas@david.saclay.cea.fr Mon Nov 15 06:03:01 1993 Received: from pamir.inria.fr by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA09832; Mon, 15 Nov 93 06:03:01 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=inria/ADMD=atlas/C=fr/; Relayed; 15 Nov 93 11:56:34+0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=cea/ADMD=atlas/C=FR/; Relayed; 15 Nov 93 11:51:54+0100 Date: 15 Nov 93 11:51:54+0100 From: "30MO SBPM Nicolas FOLOPPE" Message-Id: <9311151051.AA17719@david.saclay.cea.fr> Subject: How to calculate energy locally ? To: charmm-bbs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1743 Subject : how to calculate the energy of part of a system with CHARMM ? I am facing the following basic problem : how to compute with CHARMM the potential energy of only part of a whole protein ? Let's call REAC that part of the protein for which I need the energy. That energy is the sum of the self energy of REAC (bonded + nonbonded terms) plus the interaction energy between REAC and rest of the protein (bonded and nonbonded terms). I calculated that energy using either the "INTE" subcommand or the "CONS FIX" subcommand. Using INTE (inte sele REAC end sele all end), I've got that result : ---------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- INTE> 1 -901.69311 .00000 1.74967 INTE INTERN> 39.15927 88.98846 3.38105 94.72567 11.82383 INTE EXTERN> -391.35521 -748.41618 .00000 .00000 ---------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Using CONS FIX (cons fix sele all .and. .not. REAC ), I obtain another result : ---------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ENER> 0 -864.08161 .00000 5.66944 ENER INTERN> 39.15927 95.87168 3.38105 123.84037 13.43740 ENER EXTERN> -391.35521 -748.41618 .00000 .00000 ---------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- What surprise me is that some terms (bonds,Urey-Bradley,elec,vdw) are equal although some are not (impropers, dihedrals,valence angles). Is there something wrong in the way I handle those commands ? Is there a rational behind those differences ? Any help or advice is welcomed, Nicolas Foloppe END --> nov93.log <--- BEGIN --> dec93.log <--- DEC93.log -- From wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu Wed Dec 8 16:51:20 1993 Received: from mace.cc.purdue.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA05767; Wed, 8 Dec 93 16:51:20 -0500 Received: by mace.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA26872; Wed, 8 Dec 93 16:44:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 16:44:31 -0500 From: wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu (mark wahle) Message-Id: <9312082144.AA26872@mace.cc.purdue.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: CHARMm image specs Dear all, Can anyone explain more clearly what IXTFRQ is and what it does under the image-specs? I've looked in the on-line help (images.doc) as well as some other of those documentation files, but the explanation their is too vague. All I'm doing is setting up a ABNR minimization with images and am trying to write a script to do so, but I'm not too clear on IXTFRQ. Thanks for the help in advance. Mark C. Wahle Department of Medicinal Chemistry Purdue University email: wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu From wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu Sun Dec 12 16:37:06 1993 Received: from mace.cc.purdue.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04184; Sun, 12 Dec 93 16:37:06 -0500 Received: by mace.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA06227; Sun, 12 Dec 93 16:30:16 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Dec 93 16:30:16 -0500 From: wahle@mace.cc.purdue.edu (mark wahle) Message-Id: <9312122130.AA06227@mace.cc.purdue.edu> To: charmm-bbs Dear all, These are the three responses I received regarding my earlier question concerning IXTFRQ for CHARMm image specs. I hope that these three notes will shed some light on this topic for others as much as it has for me. Thanks to all those who supplied this info. Mark C. Wahle Department of Medicinal Chemistry Purdue University ***** MESSAGE NUMBER ONE: ***** From ryszard@msi.com Dear Mark, IXTFrq is a frequency of updating crystal structure. It is relevant only if you are using CRYSTAL facility. If you are e.g. dealing with a flexible polymer it is important to update crystal to take into account conformational changes of the polymer, if it is changing e.g. from coil to extended chain. If you are dealing with well defined crystal composed of small molecules, and you know that no big scale changes will occur you may set it up to something big (e.g. 1000). Ryszard ***** AND MESSAGE NUMBER TWO: ***** Dear Mark, IXTFRQ is used for updating list of crystal transformations i.e. list of unit cells which will be created IMGFRQ is used for updating image atom list i.e. list of atoms WITHIN image unit cells For example crystal which initially looks like I I I I I I I P I I I I I I I may look in following way after crystal update (governed by IXTFRQ) I I I I I I I P I I I I I I I Again this is functional only if you are using crystal facility and is not if you are using only nearest neighbours (and/or directly images). Ryszard P.S. I will notify our documentation department about missing IXTFRQ information. Thank you for pointing it out. ***** AND MESSAGE NUMBER THREE: ***** From: David Ward I saw your message on the CHARMM bbs i have had some problems doing solvated peptide calculations using CHARMm from MSI. There is a problem with the image centering facility. The short answer is leave out image centering and then minimization appears to work ok. I have problems with molecular dynamics though. Here's a script for you to modify and try. The solute has segment ID 1s. Try it with and without commenting out image centering (commented out in this script). The ixtfrq is the frequency of image updates if the primary box was built using the crystal facility (i think). If you get any good information on all this, or see any errors in what i've said please let me know. ! Startup script for CHARMm ! UPPER ! CASE FOR FILES TO WRITE OPEN WRITE CARD UNIT 7 NAME CHARMM.LOG banner bomblevel -2 wrnlev 0 prnlev 5 OPEN READ CARD UNIT 21 NAME /MASSES.RTF.H read rtf card unit 21 close unit 21 OPEN READ CARD UNIT 21 NAME /AMINOH.RTF.H read rtf card unit 21 append close unit 21 OPEN READ FILE UNIT 21 NAME /PARM.BIN.H read param file unit 21 close unit 21 ! This script generates the psf ! DELE ATOM SELECT ALL END read sequ quanta * Read sequence using special QUANTA option * 14 CYS 1 CYS 2 GLU 3 LEU 4 CYS 5 CYS 6 ASN 7 PRO 8 ALA 9 CYS 10 THR 11 GLY 12 CYS 13 TYR 14 GENERATE 1S SETUP OPEN READ UNIT 18 CARD NAME STHGC4.CRD READ COOR UNIT 18 CARD COOR ORIE READ SEQU TIP3 1000 GENE SOLV SETU NOANGLE OPEN READ UNIT 14 CARD NAME /BOX30.CRD.H READ COOR UNIT 14 CARD APPE DELE ATOM SELE ( .BYRES. ( SEGID SOLV .AND. TYPE OH2 .AND. - ( ( .NOT. SEGID SOLV .AND. .NOT. HYDROGEN ) - .AROUND. 2.80 ) ) ) END SET 9 31.1032 OPEN READ UNIT 15 CARD NAME /WATERBOX.IMG.H READ IMAG UNIT 15 CARD CLOSE UNIT 15 ! below, image centering commented out ! IMAGE BYRES XCEN 0.0 YCEN 0.0 ZCEN 0.0 SELE SEGI SOLV END SHAKE OFF SKIPE NONE UPDA CUTNB 8.0 CUTIM 8.0 INBFRQ 1 IHBFRQ 0 IMGFRQ 1 - ! PUT IN HERE CTONNB 6.5 CTOFNB 7.5 WMIN 1.5 ! BECAUSE OF ! CUTIM ERROR NBONDS VSWITCH SHIFT NBXMOD 5 ENER ! PRIN IMAGE FORCES PSF COOR COPY COMP CONS FIX SELE SEGI 1S END UPDA INBFRQ 20 IMGFRQ 20 IHBFRQ 0 MINI SD NSTEP 20 STEP 0.02 NPRINT 10 MINI ABNR NSTEP 1000 TOLGRD 0.0001 STEP 0.001 CONS FIX SELE NONE END UPDA INBFRQ 20 IMGFRQ 20 IHBFRQ 0 MINI ABNR NSTE 10000 STEP 0.0001 TOLGRD 0.00001 TOLENR 0.0000000 - NPRINT 100 COOR RMS MASS COOR RMS MASS SELE SEGID 1S END COOR RMS MASS SELE SEGID SOLV END COOR RMS MASS SELE ATOM SOLV * OH2 END IC FILL IC DIFF ! PRINT IC ! WRITE MINIMIZED COORDINATES TO DISK OPEN WRIT UNIT 88 CARD NAME DG_M_5M5.CRD.B WRIT COOR UNIT 88 CARD * SOLVATED MINIMIZED COORDINATES * OPEN READ UNIT 15 CARD NAME /CLEARBOX.IMG.H READ IMAG UNIT 15 CARD CLOSE UNIT 15 STOP From dchin Mon Dec 13 12:21:21 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA06188; Mon, 13 Dec 93 12:21:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 12:21:21 -0500 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9312131721.AA06188@emperor.harvard.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Re: IXTFrq (reposted by Donovan Chin) This is a response to an earlier question posted about IXTFrq: ::: Orig. Question: ::: Can anyone explain more clearly what IXTFRQ is and what it does under the image-specs? I've looked in the on-line help (images.doc) as well as some other of those documentation files, but the explanation their is too vague. All I'm doing is setting up a ABNR minimization with images and am trying to write a script to do so, but I'm not too clear on IXTFRQ. Thanks for the help in advance. Mark C. Wahle ::: response ::: Dear Mark, IXTFrq is a frequency of updating crystal structure. It is relevant only if you are using CRYSTAL facility. If you are e.g. dealing with a flexible polymer it is important to update crystal to take into account conformational changes of the polymer, if it is changing e.g. from coil to extended chain. If you are dealing with well defined crystal composed of small molecules, and you know that no big scale changes will occur you may set it up to something big (e.g. 1000). IXTFRQ is used for updating list of crystal transformations i.e. list of unit cells which will be created IMGFRQ is used for updating image atom list i.e. list of atoms WITHIN image unit cells For example crystal which initially looks like I I I I I I I P I I I I I I I may look in following way after crystal update (governed by IXTFRQ) I I I I I I I P I I I I I I I Again this is functional only if you are using crystal facility and is not if you are using only nearest neighbours (and/or directly images). Ryszard P.S. I will notify our documentation department about missing IXTFRQ information. Thank you for pointing it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------- DONOVAN CHIN Harvard University E-mail: dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry Phone: (617) 495-9435 12 Oxford St. Fax: (617) 495-9857 Cambridge, MA 02138, USA ------------------------------------------------------------------- From silva@yang.mayo.EDU Mon Dec 13 15:03:50 1993 Received: from bru.mayo.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA06503; Mon, 13 Dec 93 15:03:50 -0500 Received: from autobahn.mayo.EDU by bru.mayo.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA15786; Mon, 13 Dec 93 13:54:36 CST Received: from yang.mayo.edu by autobahn.mayo.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18158; Mon, 13 Dec 93 13:56:52 CST Received: by yang.mayo.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for @autobahn.mayo.edu:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA13087; Mon, 13 Dec 93 13:56:51 -0600 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 13:56:51 -0600 From: silva@yang.mayo.EDU (Norberto Silva) Message-Id: <9312131956.AA13087@yang.mayo.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: charmm 22 installation question Hi, We recently got the CHARMM 22 installation package and we have one question about it. I know this will sound more like a unix question but believe me we looked into the man pages and we cannot understand why the -m option was used in the very last command line of the makefile listed below. What does it do and why is it needed. I tried contacting (via e-mail) the current CHARMM 22 maintanence person about this but he/she has yet to respond. Thank you. # CHARMM 22 makefile for SGI IRIS machines ROOT = rootdir SRC = $(ROOT)/source FLX = $(ROOT)/tool/preflx LIB = $(ROOT)/lib/sgi EXEC = $(ROOT)/exec/sgi FC = f77 -col120 -Ns1000 -Nn8000 -Nx300 CC = cc LD = f77 .SUFFIXES: .fcm .src .o VPATH = fcm FC0 = $(FC) -c -O0 -static FC1 = $(FC) -c -O1 FC2 = $(FC) -c -O2 FC3 = $(FC) -c -O3 FCR = $(FC) -c -O2 FCD = $(FC) -c -no -g FCRD = $(FC) -c -re -no -g LIBS = \ $(LIB)/correl.a \ $(LIB)/dynamc.a \ $(LIB)/energy.a \ $(LIB)/gener.a \ $(LIB)/graphics.a \ $(LIB)/io.a \ $(LIB)/machdep.a \ $(LIB)/main.a \ $(LIB)/manip.a \ $(LIB)/minmiz.a \ $(LIB)/misc.a \ $(LIB)/molvib.a \ $(LIB)/nbonds.a \ $(LIB)/image.a \ $(LIB)/energy.a \ $(LIB)/pert.a \ $(LIB)/quantum.a \ $(LIB)/rxncor.a \ $(LIB)/util.a \ $(LIB)/vibran.a $(EXEC)/charmm22 : $(LIB)/charmm.o $(LIBS) $(LD) -o charmm22.exe $(LIB)/charmm.o -m $(LIBS) # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Norberto D. Silva, Jr. /\ /\ Mayo Clinic, Guggenheim 14 / \__/ \ 200 First St. SW (@@) Rochester, MN 55905 \/ FAX: (507) 284-9349 e-mail: silva@mayo.edu phone: (507) 284-5794 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Wed Dec 15 15:51:16 1993 Received: from benoni.Uit.No by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA08724; Wed, 15 Dec 93 15:51:16 -0500 Received: from benoni by ppenoni.uit.no with SMTP (PP) id <26828-0@ppenoni.uit.no>; Wed, 15 Dec 1993 21:44:18 +0000 Received: from trypsin.Chem.Uit.No by benoni.uit.no (5.65+IDA/Babel-1.15/ABaa-1.2/Ultrix) id AAbenoni26824; Wed, 15 Dec 1993 21:44:17 +0100 Received: by trypsin.chem.uit.no (911016.SGI/ABaa-2.0mini) id AA03736; Wed, 15 Dec 93 21:45:04 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 21:45:04 -0800 From: eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Message-Id: <9312160545.AA03736@trypsin.chem.uit.no> To: charmm-bbs Subject: H-bonds I am interested in analysing hydrogen bonds as a function of time during molecular dynamics simulations (use of .DCD files) and would really appreciate information about how other CHARMm users do this. Thanks in advance, Elle ####################################################### # Eldbjoerg Sofie Heimstad # # Protein Crystallography Group # # University Of Tromsoe, IMR # # 9037 Tromsoe, NORWAY phone: +47-83-45706 # # 44737 # # fax : +47-83-44765 # # E-mail: eldbjorg@trypsin.chem.uit.no # ####################################################### From brbrooks@helix.nih.gov Thu Dec 16 15:02:37 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA10447; Thu, 16 Dec 93 15:02:37 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA21445; Thu, 16 Dec 93 14:55:43 EST Received: from helix.nih.gov by alw.nih.gov (5.61/1.35(alw-2.4)) id AA11074; Thu, 16 Dec 93 14:55:40 -0500 Received: from localhost by helix.nih.gov (8.6.4/1.35(helix-1.0)) id OAA23011; Thu, 16 Dec 1993 14:53:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 14:53:14 -0500 From: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov (Bernie Brooks) Message-Id: <199312161953.OAA23011@helix.nih.gov> To: charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Subject: Re: H-bonds Dear Elle: The CORREL section of CHARMM has a hydrogen bond section to it. It allows the evaluation of particular Hbonds as a function of time. The drawback to the code is that you must first provide a list of potential hbonds that you would like to consider. This can be done by merging (and deleting duplications) a series of hbond card files generated from simulation frames. Bernie Brooks From becky@MSI.COM Thu Dec 16 15:42:08 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA10566; Thu, 16 Dec 93 15:42:08 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA22043; Thu, 16 Dec 93 15:35:14 EST Received: from franz.MSI.COM by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01724; Thu, 16 Dec 93 15:32:17 EST Received: by franz.MSI.COM (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17800; Thu, 16 Dec 1993 15:31:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 15:31:19 -0500 From: becky@MSI.COM (Becky Rone X 276) Message-Id: <9312162031.AA17800@franz.MSI.COM> To: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov, charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, eldbjorg@chem.uit.no Subject: Re: H-bonds If the system is not too complicated you can use QUANTA; Dynamics Animation (redraw Hbonds) to see the hydrogen bonds as they flicker in and out and from this generate the initial list of hydrogens which participate in Hbonding. However, if you are accomplished at CHARMM commands and the use of editors you might be better to generate the list based on the simulation frames. In either case, CORREL still needs to be used. From dhuhta@MSI.COM Thu Dec 16 16:48:32 1993 Received: from harvard.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA10811; Thu, 16 Dec 93 16:48:32 -0500 Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for charmm-bbs@emperor) id AA23029; Thu, 16 Dec 93 16:41:36 EST Received: from gomez (gomez.msi.com) by schizoid.msi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01894; Thu, 16 Dec 93 16:41:25 EST Received: by gomez (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for brbrooks@helix.nih.gov id AA05112; Thu, 16 Dec 93 16:40:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 16:36:08 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Huhta <@MSI.COM:dhuhta@gomez> Subject: Re: H-bonds To: Becky Rone X 276 Cc: brbrooks@helix.nih.gov, charmm-bbs%emperor@harvard, eldbjorg@chem.uit.no In-Reply-To: <9312162031.AA17800@franz.MSI.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 16 Dec 1993, Becky Rone X 276 wrote: > > If the system is not too complicated you can use QUANTA; Dynamics Animation > (redraw Hbonds) to see the hydrogen bonds as they flicker in and out and from > this generate the initial list of hydrogens which participate in Hbonding. > However, if you are accomplished at CHARMM commands and the use of editors > you might be better to generate the list based on the simulation frames. > In either case, CORREL still needs to be used. If you do the dynamics animation as described, Quanta will create a file (fort.45) with a list of the hydrogen bonds (with distances and angles, etc.) on a frame by frame basis. Dave. dhuhta@msi.com From wphoorn@utctu2.ct.utwente.nl Fri Dec 17 06:28:26 1993 Received: from utct.ct.utwente.nl by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11284; Fri, 17 Dec 93 06:28:26 -0500 Received: from utctu2 (utctu2.ct.utwente.nl) by ct.utwente.nl with SMTP id AA26407 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu); Fri, 17 Dec 1993 12:20:54 +0100 Received: by utctu2 (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @utct.ct.utwente.nl:charmm-bbs@emperor.harvard.edu id AA16544; Fri, 17 Dec 93 12:21:28 +0100 From: wphoorn@utctu2.ct.utwente.nl (Willem Paul van Hoorn) Message-Id: <9312171121.AA16544@utctu2> Subject: Urey-Bradley energy To: charmm-bbs (CHARMm BBS) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 12:21:08 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 988 Hi CHARMM users, I noticed that in charmm22 there is also a Urey-Bradley enery term. I found a article by Rossky, Karplus and Rahman (Biopolymers 1979) in which a 1-3 correction term is described as follows: Eangle = K(theta - theta0)^2 + F(L-L0)^2 + 2F'(L-L0) theta is the B-A-C angle and L is the B---C distance: A / \ B---C However, in the parameter list there is only one equilibrium distance (L0?) and one force constant. Is this force constant F or F' or are they the same? Thanks for helping me, Willem Paul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (ir) Willem Paul van Hoorn University of Twente e-mail: wphoorn@ct.utwente.nl Organic Chemistry Department phone : (+31)53-892955 P.O. Box 217 (+31)53-892980 7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands fax : (+31)53-356024 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@sb.com Fri Dec 17 12:26:37 1993 Received: from phinet.smithkline.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11470; Fri, 17 Dec 93 12:26:37 -0500 Received: by phinet.smithkline.com (5.57/ULTRIX-az-040392); id AA05983; Fri, 17 Dec 93 11:58:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 93 11:58:00 -0500 Message-Id: <9312171658.AA05983@phinet.smithkline.com> From: mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@sb.com To: charmm_bbs@phinet.smithkline.com Subject: Harmonic constraints query Hi everyone, I'm having a problem setting harmonic constraints on a protein/ligand complex. I'm using SCALAR CONS RECALL .. to set the costraints on the protein, prior to a Langevin Dynamics run, and CONS HARM SELE .... to set contraints on two atoms of the ligand. The Dynamics falls over straight away with energy change exceeded. In the energy breakdown, the CONS energy and hence the potential energies are sky high (i.e. ********), which is presumably screwing up the dynamics. If I do a PRINT CONS to list the constraints, I get two columns of atoms and a forece constant for each. In nearly all cases, the two atoms are the same, as one might expect. But, in some of the protein atoms, and for the ligand, the first and second atoms are NOT the same; the first atom seems to be constrained to it's "neighbour" -- hence a high constraint energy => screwy dynamics. My questions are: Am I doing something daft ? (it is Friday afternoon, after all) Has anyone come across this before ? Do you have a workround ? Is this a known bug. ? I'm using CHARMm22 from MSI on 4 processors of a SG380s Thanks in advance of any help. Have a good X-mas or whatever you are celbrating. Tim Mitchell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | _____ ____ || SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals Ltd | | / ___\\\\ _ \ || Brockham Park | | | |___ \\|_| | || Tim Mitchell (Comp. Chem.) Betchworth | | \____ \ | _ < || Phone: (0)737 36 4535 Surrey | | ____| | | |_| | || Fax: (0)737 36 4539 RH3 7AJ | | \_____/ |____/ || E-Mail: mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@sb.com U.K. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From alex@tammy Fri Dec 17 13:27:59 1993 Received: from tammy.harvard.edu by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA11988; Fri, 17 Dec 93 13:27:59 -0500 Received: by tammy.harvard.edu (5.64/10.0) id AA10551; Fri, 17 Dec 93 13:22:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 93 13:22:04 -0500 From: alex@tammy (Alex Mackerell) Message-Id: <9312171822.AA10551@tammy.harvard.edu> To: charmm-bbs, wphoorn@utctu2.ct.utwente.nl Subject: Re: Urey-Bradley energy CHARMM only uses the quadratic term (F(L-L0)^2) for the Urey-Bradley term. Alex MacKerell From dchin Fri Dec 17 14:32:00 1993 Received: by emperor.harvard.edu (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA12109; Fri, 17 Dec 93 14:32:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 93 14:32:00 -0500 From: dchin (Donovan Chin) Message-Id: <9312171932.AA12109@emperor.harvard.edu> To: charmm-bbs Subject: Urey-Bradley energy -- Since charmm-bbs thinks that messages that contain < 100 characters are "possible subscriptions," (i.e. prevents things like "subscribe.. unsubscribe.." from getting distributed over charmm-bbs), it sends these to me and not the list. Therefore, I am re-posting Alex's response to Willem's question about Urey-Bradley energy (if short messages occur often, I will disable this feature). Regards, Donovan (bbs-manager) -- orig question: Eangle = K(theta - theta0)^2 + F(L-L0)^2 + 2F'(L-L0) theta is the B-A-C angle and L is the B---C distance: A / \ B---C However, in the parameter list there is only one equilibrium distance (L0?) and one force constant. Is this force constant F or F' or are they the same? response: CHARMM only uses the quadratic term (F(L-L0)^2) for the Urey-Bradley term. Alex MacKerell ------------------------------------------------------------------- DONOVAN CHIN Harvard University E-mail: dchin@emperor.harvard.edu Department of Chemistry Phone: (617) 495-9435 12 Oxford St. Fax: (617) 495-9857 Cambridge, MA 02138, USA ------------------------------------------------------------------- From mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@sb.com Tue Dec 21 11:12:53 1993 Received: from phinet.smithkline.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA00206; Tue, 21 Dec 93 11:12:53 -0500 Received: by phinet.smithkline.com (5.57/ULTRIX-az-040392); id AA29849; Tue, 21 Dec 93 10:58:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 10:57:59 -0500 Message-Id: <9312211558.AA29849@phinet.smithkline.com> From: mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@sb.com To: charmm_bbs@phinet.smithkline.com Subject: Harmonic Constraints II Thanks to Bernie Brooks and Leo Caves for the solution to my problem with harmonic constraints. Doing a CONS HARM SELE ATOM * * * END FORCE 0.00000001 before the SCALAR CONS... commands means that the dynamics seems to run OK (It hasn't fallen over after 2ps now!). However, the PRINT CONS listing still indicates that some atoms aren't constrained to themselves. Is this a problem with PRINT CONS ?. Can someone at Harvard/MSI check it out ? Have a good holiday .. .. .. Tim Mitchell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | _____ ____ || SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals Ltd | | / ___\\\\ _ \ || Brockham Park | | | |___ \\|_| | || Tim Mitchell (Comp. Chem.) Betchworth | | \____ \ | _ < || Phone: (0)737 36 4535 Surrey | | ____| | | |_| | || Fax: (0)737 36 4539 RH3 7AJ | | \_____/ |____/ || E-Mail: mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@sb.com U.K. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@sb.com Thu Dec 23 07:47:20 1993 Received: from phinet.smithkline.com by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA01151; Thu, 23 Dec 93 07:47:20 -0500 Received: by phinet.smithkline.com (5.57/ULTRIX-az-040392); id AA07457; Thu, 23 Dec 93 07:27:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 93 07:26:59 -0500 Message-Id: <9312231227.AA07457@phinet.smithkline.com> From: mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@sb.com To: charmm_bbs@phinet.smithkline.com Subject: Sbounds -- how do you turn it off ? Hi -- I'm docking a series of ligands into a protein active site and doing a minimise-dynamics-minimise procedure. I'm using one CHARMm script to dock in all the ligands, and doing a DELE ATOM SELE ALL END to clear everything out before reading in the protein and new ligand. A solvent boundary is set up using SBOUND before the Langevin Dynamics My problem is that the "first" ligand docks OK, but the second one gets into trouble during the initial minimisation. Basically is has a huge SBOUND energy (~-80000 Kcal), but no solvent boundary should be set up for this protein/ligand complex at this stage. It appears that the DELE ATOM SELE ALL has not removed the solvent boundary constraints from the previous simulation. Is this a bug? Is there any way I can turn off the solvent boundary "manually"? Thanks in advance for any help -- have a good X-mas break. Tim. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | _____ ____ || SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals Ltd | | / ___\\\\ _ \ || Brockham Park | | | |___ \\|_| | || Tim Mitchell (Comp. Chem.) Betchworth | | \____ \ | _ < || Phone: (0)737 36 4535 Surrey | | ____| | | |_| | || Fax: (0)737 36 4539 RH3 7AJ | | \_____/ |____/ || E-Mail: mitchell_t%frgen.dnet@sb.com U.K. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From allelix@utcc.utoronto.ca Wed Dec 29 11:12:55 1993 Received: from gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04858; Wed, 29 Dec 93 11:12:55 -0500 Received: by gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca id <18663>; Wed, 29 Dec 1993 11:05:44 -0500 From: To: charmm-bbs Message-Id: <93Dec29.110544est.18663@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 11:05:34 -0500 Greetings Charmm users, I am in the process of looking for ways to test some models of protein receptors I have generated by homology modelling and wish to sample your opinions on the value of interaction energies as a measure of a ligand's binding affinity. In the case where one ligand has a binding affinity which is a factor of ten different for two receptors I anticipate a different interaction energy (nonbonded interactions) which should correlate with the binding affinity. I get some success but have a few anomolous results which may be due to the imperfections in my models. I am curious if there is any experience in this area out there and if so I would appreciate hearing from you. I would be interested in your opinions on interaction energies and on the optimal way to evaluate a protein receptor model's validity. Thank-you Robert Kirby Comp. Chemist/Molecular Modeller Allelix Biopharmaceuticals Inc. Allelix Biopharmaceuticals Inc. Mississauga Ont., Canada. allelix@utcc.utoronto.ca From allelix@utcc.utoronto.ca Wed Dec 29 11:40:41 1993 Received: from gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca by emperor.harvard.edu via SMTP (920110.SGI/911001.SGI) id AA04881; Wed, 29 Dec 93 11:40:41 -0500 Received: by gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca id <18663>; Wed, 29 Dec 1993 11:33:31 -0500 From: To: charmm-bbs Subject: Interaction Energies Message-Id: <93Dec29.113331est.18663@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 11:33:25 -0500 Greetings Charmm Users, I am trying to evaluate the validity of some protein receptors I have generated by homology modelling and wish to correlate the non-bonded interactions between some ligands and my proteins with binding affinities. I get anomolous results in some cases and have not found reference to this in the literature. I therefore wish to sample your opinions on how to best test protein models and if you have tried interaction energies with known ligands. In principal I believe correlation should be possible in cases where one ligand has differential binding to a couple of proteins since desolvation energies can be eliminated (ie same ligand two proteins). Any wisdom or experience in this area would be appreciated. Thank-you Robert Kirby Comp. Chem/Mol. Modeller Allelix Biopharm. Mississauga Ont., Canada. allelix@utcc.utoronto.ca END --> dec93.log <---