From chemistry-request /at\ccl.net Thu Jun 11 00:26:39 1992 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 14:21:01 EDT From: bernhold- at -qtp.ufl.edu To: chemistry.,at,.ccl.net Subject: Idea verus implementation of language requirement Status: RO A number of opinions have been expressed on the language requirement -- for the most part saying how good it is and that it should be retained. There are, however, a couple of other factors which I think are important to consider. The usual _implementation_ of the PhD language requirement in the US is a test and/or course based on translating technical material into English. As such, a "language requirement" does not insure that ability to communicate verbally in the language and does not give any experience in the culture associated with the language. Very often, the list of languages is restricted -- for example French, German, or Russian is probably the most common set of "allowed" languages. This further destroys the notion of the language requirement as a broadening experience, making the PhD more worldly or more philosophical. Although there are few (if any) journals, conferences, etc. in computer languages, understanding them is also important to many peoples' research. As a theoretical chemist, it is not suprising that I deal quite routinely with computer codes from other sources. My wife, however, is a spectroscopist. She too is required to write programs or (worse) understand other people's programs fairly frequently. Although she had Fortran 101 in her undergraduate work, she has little practical experience and is not at all comfortable with it, and this slows her work. This is a much bigger problem for her than needing to read papers in other languages. In these times of tight budgets, there are also much more practical reasons why languages requirements can be a problem. Here at UF, there were only two departments that required a foreign language for the PhD (Chemistry and Music). The German department decided that they could no longer afford to teach the service course that satisfies the requirement. I don't know how close other departments were to coming to the same decision, but the problem is obvious. Please note that I am distinguishing between the IDEA of knowing other languages and the IMPLEMENTATION of the language requirement as found in most US universities that still have one. The IMPLEMENTATION does not provide the broadening experience that was perhaps intended; nor does it it serve much practical use since technical materials can quite often be translated with the aid of a dictionary and a basic knowledge of the grammar -- without formal education. I think the IDEA remains a very valid one. As someone else pointed out, however, I believe the real failing comes before the PhD level in the US educational system. The idea of a "liberal arts" education is better implemented at the college and earlier levels. And I have yet to be convinced that the PhD is an appropriate time to rectify this failing. "Between the idea and the reailty falls the shadow" -- T.S. Eliot