From jkl ":at:" ccl.net Wed Mar 15 17:22:50 1995 Received: for jkl: at :ccl.net by www.ccl.net (8.6.10/930601.1506) id QAA06508; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 16:34:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 16:34:29 -0500 From: Jan Labanowski Message-Id: <199503152134.QAA06508;at;www.ccl.net> To: chemistry;at;ccl.net Subject: CCL support letters deadline approaching Cc: jkl[ AT ]ccl.net Dear Netters, I hope that vdW debate (not VdW' debate !!!) is now dead, so I am posting latest statistics on letters of support. To have more comp.chem. on the list, please damp the urge to discuss support letters on the CCL. I am doing too much noise already {:-(}. I have sent confirmations to all from whom I received letters of support for the CCL before about noon, Ohio time, today, i.e., March 15. If you did not receive my confirmation, and you sent me the letter, please bug me -- so I will check if the letter was not misplaced. Thank you to all who responded. I really appreciate your help, and time which you had to put into it. For some of you English is not a native language, and I, as you know, understand very well that it makes a difference. Also, thank you for your encouragement. For those of you who are too busy to write a letter of support, I can say, I may understand. On the other hand, please understand that I will have to be more careful with wording in the proposal, and I simply cannot say: "unanimous support". And I may be wrong, but such statements can make a difference. You still have time until the end of this week to send me letters of support. For those who missed all the fun, please send the message: select chemistry get ccl-proposal/message.txt to MAILSERV |-at-| ccl.net, and you will learn what it is all about. I received also many very good comments on the proposal. Some were critical to some elements of it, some were enthusiastic, some were advices on how to make things better. I need to tell you what my point of view is on this. Proposal is a proposal -- a plan. I do not think I will rigidly adhere to it, if I see that it does not have your approval. My whole philosophy here is: keep old stuff, add new things, so people have options. Some objected that they do not like the idea of moderation. There is no problem in keeping also the unmoderated list -- "raw" messages as they arrive. The moderation here is needed first of all to sort and classify messages. Of course, if the politicians-lawyers (I do not see a difference, do you?) will require explicit censorship, than I will be forced to adhere to the law. But then, by proposing some things, I kept this element in mind, in case it happens, and my organization needs to be protected against "lawyers chasing providers of Internet services" (since after the latest limits on malpractice damages, layers cannot gainfully chase ambulances any more, so beware). So if I have some financial support, I will have valid alternatives beside closing the list even in the case when providers become liable for communications on the Internet. Some were worried that beginner questions will disappear. No problem, we may have a sublist for beginners, and as you know, provisions are included, not to have beginners' questions unanswered. Sorry, it is already too long. Here is the latest statistics: Domain Total Letters Percent Name Subscribed Received Responded ar 3 0 0.00 at 21 6 28.57 au 52 14 26.92 be 35 8 22.86 br 16 3 18.75 ca 77 13 16.88 ch 26 5 19.23 cl 5 0 0.00 cn 5 5 100.00 co 2 0 0.00 cz 3 1 33.33 de 148 22 14.86 dk 16 7 43.75 ee 4 2 50.00 eg 2 0 0.00 eq 1 0 0.00 es 48 18 37.50 fi 14 3 21.43 fr 44 14 31.82 gr 5 5 100.00 hk 3 1 33.33 hr 7 1 14.29 hu 13 5 38.46 ie 1 0 0.00 il 26 10 38.46 in 9 0 0.00 ir 3 0 0.00 it 33 7 21.21 jp 33 2 6.06 kr 11 2 18.18 lv 1 0 0.00 mx 11 6 54.55 my 1 0 0.00 nl 41 8 19.51 no 6 1 16.67 nz 2 0 0.00 pl 35 5 14.29 pt 1 1 100.00 ru 4 0 0.00 se 19 8 42.11 sg 5 1 20.00 sk 5 0 0.00 su 5 0 0.00 th 2 0 0.00 tr 3 0 0.00 tw 9 1 11.11 uk 124 32 25.81 us 6 0 0.00 ve 1 0 0.00 za 10 3 30.00 com 344 80 23.26 edu 733 113 15.42 gov 81 13 16.05 mil 15 3 20.00 net 12 0 0.00 *) org 24 3 12.50 ------------------------------------------------ Total: 2166 432 19.94 (Wed Mar 15) <- Today in Ohio For comparison: Total: 2157 322 14.93 (Fri Mar 10) Total: 2137 125 5.85 (Thu,Mar 2) *) I assigned 1 letter from net domain to the respective country (ca). Sorry for taking your time... Jan jkl:~at~:ccl.net -- Dr. Jan K. Labanowski, Senior Research/Supercomputer Scientist/Specialist, etc. Ohio Supercomputer Center, 1224 Kinnear Rd, Columbus, OH 43212-1163 ph:(614)-292-9279, FAX:(614)-292-7168, E-mail: jkl |-at-| ccl.net JKL |-at-| OHSTPY.BITNET