From tamasgunda /at\tigris.klte.hu Thu Apr 2 04:21:58 1998 Received: from tigris.klte.hu for tamasgunda -8 at 8- tigris.klte.hu by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/950822.1) id DAA01039; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 03:38:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199804020838.DAA01039 %-% at %-% www.ccl.net> Received: from anti02 (anti02.chem.klte.hu) by tigris.klte.hu (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:32:43 +0100 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tamas Gunda" To: CHEMISTRY -8 at 8- www.ccl.net Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:32:41 +1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: CCL:descriptors for the 'shape' and 'size' of molecules Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Norman Goldberg wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for a simple (!?) method to describe the 'size' and > topology of a molecule. > The aim is to establish a correlation between experimentally observed > retention times (by liquid cromatography) and the 'shape' of several > pure hydrocarbons > (bigger species including 'disk' and umbrella-shaped molecules). > > I have no experience in this field of research, whatsoever, so any hints > or comments > would be appreciated. > > Many thanks in advance, > > Norman > This problem is similar to those in drug research: how to describe the shape of a molekule or substituent. One of the early approaches (I mean before CoMFA and 3DQSAR era) to this was the use of Verloop's sterimol parameters: these characterize the shape of the molecule. My program Mol2mol can calculate it. To know more about sterimol, contact www.compuchem.com/m2m1.htm, at the end of that page there is summary in nutshell about sterimol. best wishes Tamas Gunda of the molecule. > -- > _____________________________________ > > Dr. Norman Goldberg (N.Goldberg ^%at%^ tu-bs.de) > Technische Universitaet Braunschweig > Institut fuer Organische Chemie > Hagenring 30 > D-38106 Braunschweig (FRG) > > Tel.: +(0)531-391-5312 > Fax : +(0)531-391-5388 > > http://www.tu-bs.de/institute/org-chem/goldberg/WELCOME.htm > > > > -------This is added Automatically by the Software-------- > -- Original Sender Envelope Address: N.Goldberg ":at:" tu-bs.de > -- Original Sender From: Address: N.Goldberg _-at-_)tu-bs.de > CHEMISTRY -x- at -x- www.ccl.net: Everybody | CHEMISTRY-REQUEST -x- at -x- www.ccl.net: Coordinator > MAILSERV ":at:" www.ccl.net: HELP CHEMISTRY or HELP SEARCH | Gopher: www.ccl.net 73 > Anon. ftp: www.ccl.net | CHEMISTRY-SEARCH $#at#$ www.ccl.net -- archive search > Web: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry.html > > > ************************************************************************ Dr Tamas E. Gunda phone: (+36-52) 316666-2479 Research Group of Antibiotics fax : (+36-52) 310936 L. Kossuth University e-mail: tamasgunda;at;tigris.klte.hu POBox 36 www.klte.hu/~gundat/gunda.htm H-4010 Debrecen Hungary ************************************************************************