From chemistry-request#* at *#server.ccl.net Fri Nov 3 13:56:49 2000 Received: from Mercury.acs.unt.edu (mercury.acs.unt.edu [129.120.220.1]) by server.ccl.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13729 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:56:49 -0500 Received: from jove.acs.unt.edu (10759 ^at^ jove.acs.unt.edu [129.120.220.41]) by Mercury.acs.unt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23689; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:56:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (tdp0006 /at\localhost) by jove.acs.unt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26078; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:56:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:56:22 -0600 (CST) From: TREVOR D POWER To: "Dr. Antonio Buljan" cc: chemistry /at\server.ccl.net Subject: Re: CCL:Dipole Moment In-Reply-To: <3A02B474.82C98ED6 \\at// udec.cl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Antonio, I do not know if this is the BEST methodology (other responses will give you some idea about that) but a good way to do this is to optimize your molecules with correlated methods to give you a very high quality geometry and then perform a single-point calculation with Sadlej's basis set: Sadlej, A. J. Collect. Czech. Chem. Commun. 1988, 53, 1995. (where 1988 is the publication year) whereby you obtain the dipole moments (also quadrupole moments) very accurately when compared to experiment. Some work I was involved in a few years ago, we calculated these types of things for nucleic acid bases: J. Phys. Chem. 1996, 100, 18875. and could only afford MP2 geometry optimizations with 6-31G(d,p) and that actually gave nice results when compared to geometrical details from experiment. You will note that the Pople series of basis sets, whilst good for geometry optimizations, give miserable results for electric properties of molecules. You will, however, find quite a lot of people who seem to "sneek through the cracks" and publish junk results for these types of things. You would be well advised to stick close to Physical Chemistry/Theory type articles. There are a few people who choose to perturb 6-31G (or some variation of this) and they have improved the accuracy of the dipole moment but nowhere near as well as Sadlej's will. I would not personally recommend you do this, but if you are interested in seeing an example of this then I refer you to: Sponer, J.; Hobza, P. J. Phys. Chem. 1994, 98, 3161. Regards, Trevor D. Power Department of Chemistry University of North Texas NT Station, Box 305070 Denton, Texas 76203-5070 tdp0006 ":at:" unt.edu On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Dr. Antonio Buljan wrote: > Dear CCLers, > > What is the best methodology to calculate > dipole moments in diatomic molecules? > (for example: CO, LiH, etc.) > > Dr. Antonio Buljan > Departamento de Fisico Quimica > Universidad de Concepcion > Casilla 160-C > CHILE > > > > -= This is automatically added to each message by mailing script =- > CHEMISTRY %-% at %-% ccl.net -- To Everybody | CHEMISTRY-REQUEST %-% at %-% ccl.net -- To Admins > MAILSERV: at :ccl.net -- HELP CHEMISTRY or HELP SEARCH > CHEMISTRY-SEARCH \\at// ccl.net -- archive search | Gopher: gopher.ccl.net 70 > Ftp: ftp.ccl.net | WWW: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/ | Jan: jkl- at -ccl.net > > > > > >