From chemistry-request $#at#$ ccl.net Tue Nov 18 14:09:06 2003 Received: from cornell.edu (cornell.edu [132.236.56.6]) by server.ccl.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAIJ8YRW028168 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:08:35 -0500 Received: from cornell.edu (fili.ccmr.cornell.edu [128.84.241.145]) by cornell.edu (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13629 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:08:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FBA6E32.3050804~at~cornell.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:08:34 -0500 From: Connie Chang User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030703 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chemistry~at~ccl.net Subject: CCL: G03 and negative frequencies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=7.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi -- I just had a job finish and it ended up giving me all negative frequencies. My job is with PM3. I have several questions: 1) Is there a way to tell if a job will give negative frequencies before it completes? This job took 5 full days, so it would be nice to know a little more beforehand that a job will yield negative frequencies 2) I know that negative frequencies usually means that I'm not at a minimum but rather am at a saddle point. But I optimized first using PM3 and then did a freq calculation. Are there other things I can do to ensure that I am at a true minimum and not a saddle point before proceeding? 3) Other suggestions? Thanks, Connie