From chemistry-request |-at-| ccl.net Fri Jan 16 13:45:11 2004 Received: from smtp2.server.rpi.edu (smtp2.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.2]) by server.ccl.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0GIjAc1015215 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:45:10 -0500 Received: from rpi.edu (scabbers-26.dynamic2.rpi.edu [128.113.134.141]) by smtp2.server.rpi.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0GIjwO1032554; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:45:58 -0500 Message-ID: <4008312D.E53D8D2A~at~rpi.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:45:01 -0500 From: "Curt M. Breneman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FyD CC: chemistry~at~ccl.net Subject: Re: CCL:CHELPG in GAMESS References: <1074224606.40075dded24e9~at~webmail.u-picardie.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.61 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on servernd.ccl.net Dear Francois, I'm not familiar with the specific CHELPG modifications made for GAMESS, but one issue with the original CHELPG routine was the possibility of computing atomic charges that do not coincide with molecular symmetry. In the original implementation, no special attention was paid to assuring that the 3D grid of sampled points was symmetrically distributed with respect to molecular symmetry elements. The effect can result in unequal ESP charges being computed for symmetrically-related atoms. This is not always a problem - In fact, it was found that for small molecules using dense grids, (0.2 au or so), this was a minor effect. In practical applications, this can raise an issue. The variation can be large or small, depending upon the complexity of the electrostatic field and the sparsity of the sampling grid. Cheers, Curt Breneman RPI Chemistry FyD wrote: > Dear All, > > I am trying to use CHELPG in GAMESS to get electrostatic potential. In the > GAMESS doc., it is written: > "CHELPG: to use a modified version of the CHELPG algorithm, which produces a > symmetric grid of points for a symmetric molecule" > > - Does it mean that the CHELPG algorithm in GAMESS is different from the > published one in Breneman & Wiberg, J Comput Chem 1990, 11, 361-373 ? > - If yes, why this algo. has been modified in GAMESS and/or is there a way to use > the original one in GAMESS ? > > Thanks, regards, Francois > > -= This is automatically added to each message by the mailing script =- > To send e-mail to subscribers of CCL put the string CCL: on your Subject: line > and send your message to: CHEMISTRY~at~ccl.net > > Send your subscription/unsubscription requests to: CHEMISTRY-REQUEST~at~ccl.net > HOME Page: http://www.ccl.net | Jobs Page: http://www.ccl.net/jobs > > If your mail is bouncing from CCL.NET domain send it to the maintainer: > Jan Labanowski, jlabanow~at~nd.edu (read about it on CCL Home Page) > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+