From owner-chemistry # - at - # ccl.net Tue Sep 8 09:05:01 2015 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?V=EDctor_Lua=F1a?= Cabal victor===fluor.quimica.uniovi.es" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Electronic potential g09 output Message-Id: <-51673-150908090322-25106-g4o7he2DueXu++LGDBCL2w],[server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=EDctor_Lua=F1a?= Cabal Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 14:46:52 +0200 MIME-version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=EDctor_Lua=F1a?= Cabal [victor**fluor.quimica.uniovi.es] On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 06:33:02AM -0400, Sara Tortorella sara::chemiome.chm.unipg.it wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: "Sara Tortorella" [sara{}chemiome.chm.unipg.it] > Hi everyone, > I'm new to this forum (...and also to computational chemistry!), so I'm wondering if you could help me in clarifying the electrostatic properties section of gaussian 09 output. > In particular, I'm performing B3LYP/6-31g* Pop=MK or Pop=CHelpG in order to obtain an estimation of atomic charges. Below you can see the output I get. > The question is: how is the electric potential reported below the charges (from '1 Atom -14.652466' to the end) exactly calculated? It is the same I could get with the cubegen potential utility (but in different units)? Is it the potential the MK or CHelpG charges are trying to fit? > Any references will be appreciated! Sara, Obtaing the electrostatic potential from the charges is an awful approach. The electrostatic potencial is $ \int \frac{D(r') dr'}{\abs{r-r}} $ where D(r') is the total charge density (i.e. electronic plus nuclear). You can approach the potential by a multipolar dixtribution, but that includes terms from 0-poles (charges), 2-poles (dipoles), 4-poles, and all the collection of 2^L poles up to the desired accuracy. The cubegen utility provides you the Molecular electrostatic potential, and it is given in atomic units (electrons per cube bohr). That can be depicted with codes like vmd, and analyzed with tools like critic2. There are many others. The electron density and the EP are related through the Poisson equation, and solving it is another way for obtaing the EP. A book on the subject is book{QCB-MurraySen1996, editor = "Murray, J. S. and Sen, K.", title = "Molecular electrostatic potentials", serie = "Theoretical and computational chemistry", volume = 3, publisher = "Elsevier", pages = 661, isbn = "0444823530", } Peter Politzer and Jane S. Murray have been working on the molecular EP for *many* years. Best regards, Dr. Víctor Luaña -- . . "In science a person can be convinced by a good argument. / `' \ That is almost impossible in politics or religion" /(o)(o)\ (Adapted from Carl Sagan) /`. \/ .'\ "Lo mediocre es peor que lo bueno, pero también es peor / '`'` \ que lo malo, porque la mediocridad no es un grado, es una | \'`'`/ | actitud" -- Jorge Wasenberg, 2015 | |'`'`| | (Mediocre is worse than good, but it is also worse than \/`'`'`'\/ bad, because mediocrity is not a grade, it is an attitude) ===(((==)))==================================+========================= ! Dr.Víctor Luaña, in silico chemist & prof. !"I have two kinds of problems, ! Departamento de Química Física y Analítica ! the urgent and the important. ! Universidad de Oviedo, 33006-Oviedo, Spain ! The urgent are not important, ! e-mail: victor]_[fluor.quimica.uniovi.es ! and the important are never ! phone: +34-985-103491 fax: +34-985-103125 ! urgent. +--------------------------------------------+ (Dwight D. Eisenhower) GroupPage : http://azufre.quimica.uniovi.es/