Re: CCL:TM force fields



 	Hi all,
 
I'd like to take up this thread again. Also, I have a question at the end:
 Isaac B. Bersuker wrote:
 
The open (or quasi-open) d shell is the main reason of peculiar properties of TM systems (TMS)
 with regard to modeling:
 
(1) 3D delocalization and hence strong mutual influence of the M-L bonds on each other (e.g.,
 cis- and trans-effect),
 
(2) "back donation" and hence local excitation of the ligands (chemical activation by
 coordination),
 
(3) degeneracy and pseudodegeneracy and hence the strong Jahn-Teller and pseudo JT effects.
 
All this together makes imposible to get reasonable parametrization of a force field (with transferable parameters) that could be used in modeling similar to that of organic and/or
 non-TMS, in general.
 
I am sorry that these important features of TMS remain unknown to people engaged in their
 investigation.
 
 
I completely agree that these effects can make modelling of transition metals challenging. However, I disagree strongly with the word "impossible". We are still far from a force field that can do this for all conceivable complexes without parameterization, but wide transferability is not a requirement for force field modelling. Personally, I design force fields for specific problems (you can check my web page for examples, see below). Setting up the force field requires about the same time as doing e few QM/MM calculations, then I have access to a tool that allows rapid conformational searching. In the types of problems I'm working with (asymmetric catalysis), a good sampling of the conformational space is essential. The force fields are still 3-4 orders of magnitude faster than QM/MM calculations in this case, and seemingly almost as accurate. An attractive combination is to use the force field as a search tool, followed by refinement of a few selected structures by QM/MM.
 
For the concerns listed above, we've only done simple things like introduction of specific cross terms to reproduce trans induction, but others have done a lot more. I'm aware of work by Landis, Comba, Deeth, and Carlsson, solving different aspects of these problems. I would like to see more. If you could send me references on how to treat the above problems, I'll summarize to the list.
 	Best regards,
 	Per-Ola
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