From chemistry-request@server.ccl.net Mon Mar 19 18:47:36 2001 Received: from usc.edu (root@[128.125.253.136]) by server.ccl.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2JNlZD21725 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:47:35 -0500 Received: from rcf-fs.usc.edu (root@rcf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id PAA24001; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (IDENT:jorgevil@futura.usc.edu [128.125.14.59]) by rcf-fs.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id PAA04815; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:47:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: jorgevil@rcf-fs.usc.edu Message-ID: <3AB69A98.568AAFD2@usc.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:47:36 -0800 From: Jordi Villa X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Wood CC: chemistry@ccl.net Subject: Re: CCL:experiment of H-bond strength in solution References: <20010316045354.66012.qmail@web13206.mail.yahoo.com> <3AB52348.A090BE15@usc.edu> <3AB63A68.704FA651@cornell.edu> <3AB66654.A1AC18FD@usc.edu> <3AB66528.8C9462DF@cornell.edu> Dear Richard, I would not like to start a non-sense discussion here, but if you look at the end of the message you quote you will see the following paragraph: > Here, I am wondering if any of you could provide me > more related reference. Also, any discussion on the > method to simulate this accurately would be highly > appreciated. I guess you did not see that part. Sorry about my message. I did not pretend to upset you and I don't think starting an argument about understanding of e-mails will be good for any of us. Apart from that, I would say that it is interesting from time to time to bring some scientific discussion to the CCL, apart from keywords problems in Gaussian and computer power of machines. That is why I liked the question from Mike Smit. Sorry if I was too long in my arguments, but sometimes I wonder if the CCL should change the name for CGL ("computer guru list"). And, please, nobody feel bad about what I say, it is just the feeling I get sometimes I open the CCL e-mails. I still consider the list a valuable source of information, but sometimes people should be more careful. Best regards to all of you and sorry for the complain, Richard Wood wrote: > Jordi Villa wrote: > > > because at the end of the original message the author asked about how > > to simulate them. Please, read the messages before implying anything. > > I wasn't the one doing the implying. > > The following is from the ORIGINAL post. > > ========================================= > Dear all, > > Since it's well-known that the H-bond strength will be > highly weaken in solution, compared with that in gap > phase, I am curious if there is any experimental > evidence or hint available. > ========================================= > > Notice the words "theoretical" or "calculated" are not anywhere > to be seen. > > Richard > > -- > Richard L. Wood, Ph. D. > Physical/Computational Chemist > Post-doctoral Associate > Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853 > > -= This is automatically added to each message by mailing script =- > CHEMISTRY@ccl.net -- To Everybody | CHEMISTRY-REQUEST@ccl.net -- To Admins > MAILSERV@ccl.net -- HELP CHEMISTRY or HELP SEARCH > CHEMISTRY-SEARCH@ccl.net -- archive search | Gopher: gopher.ccl.net 70 > Ftp: ftp.ccl.net | WWW: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/ | Jan: jkl@ccl.net -- Jordi Villa i Freixa jorgevil@usc.edu http://laetro.usc.edu/wgroup/people/jorgevil Department of Chemistry, University of Southern California Los Angeles, CA, USA, 90089-1062 Tlf: 1-(213)-740 7671 Fax: 1-(213)-740 2701