CCL: Suggestion



No, it's real. However, I should point out that governments, local and national, fund all kinds of stupid ideas based on reviews by committees that are not up to date in every area. I could tell you some real howlers in that direction. You also have to deal with the incest, nepotism issue. For others, good ideas can be shot down because of the "not invented here" philosophy, people protecting their own technology, enemies the PI may have made, the list is endless. The only real solution is to have people on the committees make full academic and commercial disclosure and for the referees to do the same. We need to get some honesty back into science and the scientific funding process.

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Sergio Manzetti sergio.manzetti%x%gmx.com <owner-chemistry_+_ccl.net> wrote:
Dear Sukumar, I agree on that, it should be through study-loans and own financing that they should be able to pursue their own goals, not on the institutes economical fate. However, that type of research on SETI and Cold Fusion I have never even heard of in science or read of, I thought it was a movie with Keanu Reeves...

 Maybe it should remain a movie with Keanu Reeves?

 Best wishes

 Sergio

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 Sent to CCL by: "N. Sukumar" [nagams[a]rpi.edu] > let students and young newcomers test their "stupid" theories > not matter how stupid they sound. They need to try. > Sergio With their own money, of course! Scientists have raised private funds to pursue cold fusion and SETI research. There are even those (using the term "scientist" loosely) who pursue "research" on creationism/intelligent design. There is no law against it. But if you expect to do it with MY (taxpayer) money or on company time, I expect to have a say in determining how my money should be spent. N. Sukumar Rensselaer Exploratory Center for Cheminformatics Research Professor of Chemistry Shiv Nadar University, India ---------------------------- "Equations are the devil's sentences." -- Stephen Colberthttp-:-//http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp-:-//www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp-:-//www.ccl.net/spammers.txt--========GMXBoundary7327134547745674015%0AContent-Type" target="_blank">www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp-:-//www.ccl.net/spammers.txt--========GMXBoundary7327134547745674015
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