CCL:G: Constrained optimization and frequency calculation
- From: Brian Skinn <bskinn===alum.mit.edu>
- Subject: CCL:G: Constrained optimization and frequency
calculation
- Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 07:35:11 -0400
Dr. Jensen,
Apologies for the pedantry, but is "one-dimensional quantity" the
proper
term? Wouldn't, say, "order-one tensor quantity" be more accurate?
That is to say, the gradient and each of the normal modes are individually
3N-dimensional, order-one tensor quantities, are they not?
Best regards,
Brian
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Frank Jensen frj===chem.au.dk <
owner-chemistry+/-ccl.net> wrote:
> Gaussian by default assumes that the frequency analysis is done at a
> stationary point, and projects out the T+R to get 3N-6 frequencies.
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> If you are at a non-stationary point, use Freq=Projected to also project
> out the gradient, and thus get 3N-7 frequencies.
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> Note that this provides 3N-7 frequencies, regardless of the number of
> geometry constraints imposed, since the non-zero gradient is still only a
> one-dimensional quantity.
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> Frank
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> Frank Jensen
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> *From:* owner-chemistry+frj==chem.au.dk+/-ccl.net [mailto:
> owner-chemistry+frj==chem.au.dk+/-ccl.net] *On Behalf Of *Ankur Gupta
> ankkgupt**umail.iu.edu
> *Sent:* 24. august 2016 20:00
> *To:* Frank Jensen
> *Subject:* CCL:G: Constrained optimization and frequency calculation
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> Hello,
>
> Thank you Prof. Dr. M. Swart for answering my question. I found Baker's
> paper really helpful. It discusses constrained optimization thoroughly but
> it does not focus much on normal mode analysis. I am more concerned about
> the frequencies that we get from the Hessian after constrained
> optimization. The algorithm for constrained optimization has been
> implemented in most of the computational chemistry software. But I am not
> able to understand the frequencies that it shows after the constrained
> optimization.
>
> Thank you
>
> Ankur
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> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 5:03 AM, Marcel Swart marcel.swart/./icrea.cat <
> owner-chemistry[-]ccl.net> wrote:
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> Dear Ankur,
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> I would suggest to have a look at PQS (Baker, Pulay and co-workers) or
> QUILD (Swart and co-workers).
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> Both use Baker’s elegant solution to constrained optimizations.
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> Baker, "Constrained optimization in delocalized internal
coordinates”
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> Journal of Computational Chemistry 18, 1079 (1997)
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> http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/(SICI)1096-987X(199706)18:8%
> 3C1079::AID-JCC12%3E3.0.CO;2-8
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> PQS:
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> http://www.pqs-chem.com/capabilities.php
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> QUILD:
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> http://www.marcelswart.eu/quild
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> https://www.scm.com/documentation/Quild/index/index
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> Marcel
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> On 19 Aug 2016, at 22:33, Ankur Kumar Gupta ankkgupt*indiana.edu <
> owner-chemistry*ccl.net> wrote:
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> Sent to CCL by: "Ankur Kumar Gupta" [ankkgupt||indiana.edu]
> Hello,
>
> I have been reading about constrained optimization. I have read several
> papers related to the topic including the classic Reaction path Hamiltonian
> for polyatomic molecules by Miller et al. This and other research articles
> describe what is known as 'projection operator' method to do optimization
> keeping one or more internal coordinates constant. Theoretically, we should
> get 3N-6 non-zero eigenvalues from the force constant matrix (for a
> molecule having N nuclei) but if we apply m number of constraints in the
> molecule, we should obtain 3N-6-m non-zero eigenvalues (frequencies). Also,
> in cases where the constraint corresponds to a non-equilibrium geometry,
> there will be coupling between rotational and vibrational motion due to
> which the number of non-zero eigenvalues might change. But for the sake of
> simplicity, we can talk about equilibrium geometries only. I use Gaussian
> 09 and I observed that the number of non-zero eigenvalues did not change
> after constrained optimization. !
> I know there are many computational chemistry softwares out there and I
> would like to know if there is a software which can do constrained
> optimization correctly and give me the right number and magnitude of
> eigenvalues (frequencies) after the optimization.
>
> Thank you
> Ankur
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