From bender%!at!%ccl.net Mon Aug 28 08:55:47 1995 Received: from bedrock.ccl.net for bender ^%at%^ ccl.net by www.ccl.net (8.6.10/950822.1) id IAA05130; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:47:40 -0400 Received: from [128.146.36.140] for bender |-at-| ccl.net by bedrock.ccl.net (8.6.10/950822.1) id IAA16164; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:47:36 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:47:36 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Jan Labanowski , chemistry%!at!%www.ccl.net From: bender&$at$&ccl.net (Charlie Bender) Subject: Re: CCL:G:News and woos from coordinator Cc: jkl#* at *#ccl.net And needs apppreciation -- Charlie Bender At 12:43 AM 8/28/95, Jan Labanowski wrote: >Dear Netters, > >Occassionally, I need to say that I am here... Do not take it, please, as: > "Your daddy is talking"... >I am simply trying to do my job... > >Now, you can try the new look of the CCL home page (Alan Chalker, my >student assistant, is doing a fine job, but I still think about improvements, >so it is not yet an "official" page, but, see for yourself...) > http://www.ccl.net/chemtest.html >and comment, please... > >Now, some people asked me (prompted by the change of list's address from >chemistry ":at:" ccl.net to chemistry ":at:" www.ccl.net), if I got the support for the >list. Carefully crafted {:-)} answer is: yes and no... >Your letters of support were used inside the OSC to help me get, a more or >less, dedicated machine for the CCL and delay the cutoff date. As the proposal >for extramural support is concerned, it is still pending... >If I get it, you will be the first to know. > >You will notice on some messages that the Subject starts from: > CCL:G: -- to identify that words Gaussian or G9* were used > within a message > CCL:M: -- to identify that the word MOPAC was used within a message > >I am getting some remarks from subscribers that these topics >are occupying too much of the CCL. I insist that they are within a scope of >the list, and if they are asked, they may be needed. Of course, I know >about help -x- at -x- gaussian.com, but some people want to contact actual users. >On the other hand, I wished that the questions were sometimes asked in a more >useful way... Which prompts me to give a sermon... {:-)} > >The list is to get and give. If you get (and even if you do not...) try to >give... (OK, OK, but I heard this long before JFK said something to this >effect, and I am also trying to be "gentlier and kindlier"...). Before you ask >the list for help, try to see, if you can find the answer yourself. Many >questions were asked and answered before. You can search the archives of CCL. >Send a message: > help search >to MAILSERV ^%at%^ www.ccl.net to find out how. Yes, it is clumsy, and I am >working on a better document and search engine, but the old stuff is still >usable, so use it please. It is not that difficult, after you try a few times. >And if you find something pertinent, at least you can start the discussion >on a higher level. If you cannot find the answer, ask the list, but try >to make your question interesting and useful to others -- e.g., say more how >did you run into the problem, tell what you do, etc... > >And if you get the answer(s), try to summarize it and post it back to the >CCL. We want to learn what you learned. And if you summarize, please >try to make the messages compact, just quote the important lines which >helped you to solve the problem giving credit. The whole headers or redundant >information is not needed in such a summary -- try to make it selfcontained >but also short if possible. > >Now, please adhere to rules of the list. They are available from the >home page: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry.html but can also be retrieved >via e-mail by sending a message: > help chemistry >to MAILSERV "-at-" www.ccl.net >If you are in doubt, if something fits the profile of the list, please >ask me before posting. My reject file gets longer and longer (the reject >file lists addresses of people who sinned, and I need to review their >messages before they are posted to the list), and I hate to be a censor. > >I hope, I did enough preaching for today. Tomorrow, or in the next few >days, I plan to share my impressions (very limited, in fact) from the ACS >Meeting in Chicago. So beware... > >Jan Labanowski >The CCL Watchdog (old, worn out, teethless, but still barking) >jkl#* at *#ccl.net > > >-------This is added Automatically by the Software-------- >-- Original Sender Envelope Address: jkl ^%at%^ ccl.net >-- Original Sender From: Address: jkl -x- at -x- ccl.net >CHEMISTRY[ AT ]www.ccl.net: Everybody | CHEMISTRY-REQUEST[ AT ]www.ccl.net: Coordinator >MAILSERV -A_T- www.ccl.net: HELP CHEMISTRY or HELP SEARCH | Gopher: www.ccl.net 73 >Anon. ftp: www.ccl.net | CHEMISTRY-SEARCH ^%at%^ www.ccl.net -- archive search > Web: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry.html Charlie Bender Director, Ohio Supercomputer Center Professor of Chemistry, Ohio State University 1224 Kinnear Rd. Columbus, OH 43212-1163 OSC---------------614-292-9248 Office--------------614-292-6082 Mobile------------614-371-5383 FAX----------------614-688-3184 Home-------------614-799-0640