From chemistry-request-: at :-server.ccl.net Thu Apr 11 17:11:10 2002 Received: from haney.hbond.com ([207.137.2.252]) by server.ccl.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g3BLB8j24847 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 17:11:09 -0400 Received: (from haney:~at~:localhost) by haney.hbond.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02183; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:10:56 -0700 From: "Dr. David N. Haney" Message-Id: <200204112110.OAA02183-!at!-haney.hbond.com> Subject: Re: CCL:reduced protein models To: masakatsu_w*- at -*yahoo.com (Masakatsu Watanabe) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: CHEMISTRY -8 at 8- ccl.net In-Reply-To: from "Masakatsu Watanabe" at Apr 11, 2002 12:08:10 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Masa: I am surprised that you did not mention the work of old Moldyn (now part of SBI): C.E. Padilla, H.E. Alper, D.N. Chin, M. Watanabe, V. Karlov, K.B. Blair, H.M. Chun, O. Becker, L. Caves, R. Nagle, M. Karplus, and D.N. Haney (2000) J. Comp. Chem., 21(3): 159-184 "A Substructured Modeling Approach for Long Time Molecular Dynamics Simulations" I think we worked together on some of this, but maybe I am mistaken. This work led to a program called MBOND which was sold by MSI. I do not know if it is still available. As you point out, the methods are not great, but I think this is partly because they are so difficult to use correctly. However, I think a researcher might make some valuable use of the techniques and move them forward. > Dear Jie, > > Tremendous efforts have recently been poured into > developing a coarse-grain potential for simulating and > investigating large biological molecular motions > characterized by the long time dynamics. Here are some > references that can help you: > > 1) Troyer et.al. utilize the simple point-per-residue > potential developed by Miyazawa & Jernigan to perform > the Langevin dynamics. (Check > http://www.cmpharm.ucsf.edu/~troyer/eccc/toc.html). > > 2) The other approaches are to simplify amino acid > residues by more than one interaction point; > > - The Head-Gordon & Brooks approach are described as > the Virtual body Dynamics (See Biopolymers, 31, p 77, > 1991). In their approach, however, the development of > electrostatic potential is not so simple. Therefore, > we took their representations of residues and > developed our unique potential by defining the pair > distribution function, described by Bahar et. al. (See > PROTEINS, 29, p292, 1997), from the selected protein > molecules. This develop potential was used in the > simulation. > > - Haliloglu and Bahar (See Proteins, 31, p271, 1998) > had also utilized their developed a coarse-grain > potential for their MD simulations. > > - The coarser representation of residue is done by > Herzyk and Hubbard (See PROTEINS, 17, p310, 1993). > They used their residue representations in the content > of NMR refinement, but their representation can be > utilized to develop unique potential for the dynamics > simulation. > > I myself involved some researches to utilize > coarse-grain potential. In my opinion, there are not > particularly outstanding coarse-grain potentials yet. > Which coarse-grain potential be used in your study > truly depends on what level of detail information you > want to gain from the simulation. You can also expand > the search from the reference presented here. > > Hopefully, this will help you a bit. > > Masa Watanabe -- ######### David N. Haney, Ph.D. ######### # Haney Associates Phone - 858-483-1197 # # 5455 Westknoll Dr. FAX - 858-483-1046 # # La Jolla, CA 92037 Email - haney-: at :-hbond.com # ################# #####################