Re: SCRF for ions



 Jaime,
 >
 > Hi all:
 >
 > I have been working with Gaussian 92 and Gamess using the SCRF method
 > to study solvated anions. First, I found out that the two programs
 > would give me different results for similar input decks!!!
 > A closer look revealed that this
 > difference is roughly equal to the molecular Born energy, which
 > apparently is not accounted for in the Gaussian implementation of the
 > self-consistent-reaction-field.
 >
    Your analysis is exactly correct, the monopole (or Born) term is not
 included in the multipole expansion (which is truncated at the dipole in the
 Onsager model).
    In principle, one can take the G92 calculated spherical radius "a"
 that
 was used in the SCRF and use it to calculate the Born free energy from the
 classical Born eqn G = -1/2 ( 1 - 1/dielectric) q^2/a, where q is the charge
 on the molecule (all units atomic units).
    Of course, in a charged molecule, the dipole is no longer origin
 independent, and one needs to worry a bit about where the center of the
 sphere is being placed -- center of mass? center of charge?
    No matter what, the Born-Onsager model in a spherical cavity approximation
 starts to get pretty risky about this point. Of course, it's fast and simple.
 CJC
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 Christopher J. Cramer
 University of Minnesota
 Department of Chemistry
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 From mail Mon Oct  4 16:50:39 1993
 Date: 	Mon, 4 Oct 1993 16:19:02 -0400
 From: hyper!ostlund (Neil S. Ostlund)
 Message-Id: <9310042019.AA19423 -AatT- hyper.hyper.com>
 To: chemistry -AatT- ccl.net
 Subject: conjugation in mol mech
 John McKelvey has commented here about torsional angles in
 biphenyls.  HyperChem also gives reasonable values of torsional
 angles in molecules such as this, but the issue is a very important
 one that is fundamental to the success or failure of molecular
 mechanics approaches and although I rarely contribute to
 discussions here, I thought that I might briefly comment on this topic.
 The standard molecular mechanics methods (MM2, Amber, CHARMm, etc)
 assign parameters on the basis of the "atom type" of the relevant
 atoms involved (4 atoms,in the case of a torsion) without consideration
 of the bond type.  This results in the same torsional constants for the
 SINGLE BOND in biphenyl at for the AROMATIC RING BONDS of Benzene!!
 Thus, all the standard methods mentioned above result in biphenyl
 being planar which is unfortunate chemistry.  The molecular
 mechanics secret is to recognize more of the chemical environment of
 a bond torsion than just the 4 "atom types".  Alternatively, one might
 expand the number of different atom types, but this has its own problems.
 For example, in biphenyl it is important that one is trying to describe
 the torsion of a "single" bond (bond-order=1) not an
 "aromatic" benzene
 bond (bond-order=1.5).  Chemical ideas like this are not recognized by
 the simple "atom type" methods, but are recognized by Dreiding, MM+,
 and
 others.
 In HyperChem, the MM+ method does standard MM2 calculations when explicit
 parameters are available in the parameter file associated with the relevant
 atom types. Thus a "standard" calculation results in planar biphenyl
 for the
 reasons described above.  However, the MM+ force field in HyperChem falls
 back to a Dreiding-like scheme when explicit parameters for the torsion in
 question are not available in the parameter file.  It then uses information
 about the "bond type" to derive default parameters.  The result is
 that you
 get a better result when you don't have an explicit MM2 parameter and the
 default scheme is used!  This points out one of the major defficiencies of
 standard molecular mechanics procedures like MM2, Amber, and CHARMm - they
 don't recognize the "bond type" of a torsion but only the "atom
 type" of
 the 4 relevant atoms.
 For those familiar with HyperChem, if you select the molecule and set all
 the atoms types to unknown (**) to dismiss the standard MM2 parameters and
 fall back to the default scheme, you will find reasonable geometries for
 systems like biphenyl, butadiene, etc.
 I don't want to sound as though I am promoting HyperChem here; I only
 use it as an example of an important issue for molecular mechanics
 calculations.  Other programs also recognized this problem associated
 with the simple "atom type" approach.
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