Re: CCL:Semiempirical parameterization yet again...



 On Mon, 18 Apr 1994 AHOLDER %-% at %-% VAX1.UMKC.EDU wrote:
 > ("The snake oil salesman mounted the soapbox to confront the angry
 > crowd.  He began to speak:")
 > ...
 >  I can safely say that MM has nothing to do with chemistry,
 > but is more or less a fit to a convenient set of functions.  It
 > does have chemical validity in that it gives us good answers to some
 > questions.
 >   QM is an entirely different situation, in that the actual arbiters of
 > chemistry, the electrons, are treated directly by mathematical functions.
 > The chemistry come OUT of a model that describes the electrons.
 > ...
 > ("The snake oil salesman descends from the soapbox to thunderous
 applause.")
 ("Then the one lone dissenter humbly approaches the soapbox.")
 	I'd like to address the issue that MM "has nothing to do with
 chemistry".  How can this be?  Is this to imply that molecular structure
 is not in the realm of chemistry?  MM invokes the Born-Oppenhimer
 approximation (a QM idea if I'm not mistaken) to allow us to ignore
 electrons.  Of course by doing this we have to leave bond making and bond
 breaking (electronic processes) behind.  However, nuclear motions are
 still allowed.  Because MM takes a more simplified approach to modeling
 structure than does QM does not mean it has nothing to do with chemistry.
 However MM force fields do have terms that model chemical phenomenon.
 Examples include bond angles, bond lengths, etc.  Granted, these are
 parmeterized based on chemical data.  However, they do attempt to model
 chemically meaningfull aspects of molecular structure.
 	Further, is not any mathmatical fomalism a model?  This is to
 include QM, a more detailed and complicated model of atomic events.  Yes,
 QM may have a higher level of theory involed than does MM but that does
 not relegate MM to the pesudo-chemistry domain.  Each has their place in
 solving chemical problems.  There are questions that MM can answer that QM
 and semi-emperical methods can not yet answer because of practical
 conciderations (Size of molecules).  This is not to imply that MM can
 answer any question that QM can.  Remember, processes that involve
 electrons have been left behind with this model of molecular structure.
 It is fair to say that one aspect of computational chemistry is knowing
 which methods can answer the question possed in the most efficent way.
 ("And with this the lone dissenter prays to the god that be that his life
 will be spared by the restless crowd")
 Chuck
 Charles Letner
 Wright State University
 Department of Biochemistry
 Dayton, OH 45435