Summary: Xmol on O2 SGI



 Hi!!
 I received many answer about the following question:
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         I trying to run XMOL on a SGI O2, but when I run it, an error
 message
 "Wrong Architecture" appears.
         Can anybody help me to solve this problem?
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 In summary, XMOL not run in IRIX 6.X, the solution in only run XMOL in
 machine with IRIX 5.X, and run via remote display....    ;^(
 Other possibility is to use other alternative program how VMD
 ay way, I put it all the answer received.... Thanks again!
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 Xmol 1.3.1 has been compiled under old IRIX (even before 5.3) in the
 COFF
 executable format. Newer IRIX-es (starting with 6.1) no longer support
 this format; the executable standard is now ELF. You have to go back to
 IRIX 5.3 to run xmol. To make sure type this command:
 file xmol
 Hope this helps,
 Robert Fraczkiewicz
 University of Texas Medical Branch
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 Dear Fdo Danilo Gonzalez Nilo,
 According to my experience, this is because the difference in the IRIX
 version. You know SGI O2 runs IRIX6.3 which is very unique. So, try to
 compile XMOL on SGI O2 again. Good luck.
 Arthur
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 Hi,
         The short answer is that you can't run Xmol on an O2.  The SGI
 version of Xmol uses the COFF executable format which is not supported
 by
 versions of IRIX after 5.3 .  Last I heard Xmol was not still being
 developed so it is unlikely that it will become available for new
 machines
 and operating system versions.
                                 Dave Young
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 Hi Danilo,
 the problem we all have is that there has been a big change in the
 operating
 system of SGI. The result is that executable programs which had been
 compiled
 to the old COFF format are no longer supported since IRIX 6.2 (or 6.0
 ?).
 As you will probably have IRIX 6.4 (or eventually 6.2) you can no longer
 execute
 programs in this old COFF format.
 By the way, you can check your version by entering "/sbin/uname -r"
 and
 will
 probably get an output like "6.2" or "6.4".
 Unfortunately the XMol crew doesn't want to spread their program's
 source code
 (which one could compile for nearly any operating system that is derived
 from
 UNIX). Additionally, they do not recompile their old version of XMol to
 the new
 ELF executable format.
 In order to work around this problem, we use an old SGI workstation
 running on
 IRIX 4.0.5 for executing this program and do this with the option
 "-display=<another.host.that.runs.on.irix.6.2>:0.0". This is by
 now the
 only
 way to get at least the graphics output and control panels piped to our
 new SGI
 INDIGO2, where we can use this program.
 Your problem is now that you'd need an SGI machine that runs on an old
 IRIX...
 Hope this helps (or at least answers your question),
 Best Regards,
 Michael
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 My guess is you are using the wrong executable on the O2.  Either find
 an
 executable for the O2 or recompile XMOL on the O2 itself.
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 Hi,
 usually you get an error message like this if you try to run an MIPS4
 (R8K/R10K)
 executable on a MIPS2 machine (R4K/R5K). In this case you need to
 recompile
 XMOL for your machine architecture. Normally a MIPS2 executable should
 run on a
 MIPS4 machine.
 Regards
 Stefan
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 Hola
 Tambien tenemos una SGI O2 y queremos instalar xmol. De momento xmol lo
 tenemos funcionando sin ningun problema en estaciones IBM RS600. No se
 como
 se resuelve tu problema, pero si lo logras te agradeceria que me lo
 contases.
 Un saludo
 Luis Carballeira
 Quimica-Fisica
 Universidad de Vigo, Galicia
 Espana
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 Hi !
 As far as I know, xmol only runs with irix 5.3. Everything higher won't
 work;
 If there will be a version running on any irix higher than this, please
 tell me !
 Cheers
 CR
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 There is only one problem: IRIX-6.x does not longer support
 COFF binaries:
 $ file /usr/local/bin/xmol
 /usr/local/bin/xmol:    MIPSEB COFF executable (paged) - version 2.40
 There are no chances to get a newer version of xmol ( i had a
 correspondence
 with the developers of xmol).
 You have to use other programs.
 Ciao
 Bernd Melchers
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 Nobody can help you. IRIX 6.3 (which is the only operating system O2 is
 capable of running reliably at the moment) does not support COFF
 executables. The only way to make Xmol run under 6.3 is to recompile
 it using one of the ELF executable formats 6.3 supports. However,
 since Xmol is not supported or developed anymore, and the source
 code is not publicly available, this is not possible. Tough luck...
 Regards,
 /Serge.P
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   I'm afraid there is not much you can do about it. As you know, part of
   Xmol is distributed as an executable and this has been compiled for
   different SGI machines, the newest of them being IRIX 5.x
   As far as I know, the Minnesota team who created Xmol do not plan to
   upgrade anymore and there we have 1.3.1.1 (if I remember well) as the
 latest
   version, which does not work on IRIX 6.x machines, thus including SGI
 O2.
   My suggestion would be: install Xmol in an older machine and then run
 it
   from your O2 setting the proper DISPLAY.
   If anyone else comes up with a Xmol version for IRIX 6.x please let me
 know,
   I would also be extremelly interested on it (gsastre # - at - # itq.upv.es).
 Cheers.
   German
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 Hi Danilo,
 I think that happens because you are running IRIX 6.2 or higher. Xmol
 is not supported for those platforms. I have not heared that anyone was
 still working on it, so it seems unlikely that it will work in the near
 future.
 Cheers,
 Roelant
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 Hi,
 the problem you have is that IRIX 6.x does not support the elf binary
 format any more. Since XMol is not available in the right format (coeff)
 you'll have to choose another molecular viewer. You can try VMD
 (http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/), that's what I use.
 Cheers,
        Dominik
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 Universitaet Regensburg
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 Hello,
   The reason XMol doesn't work on the O2 is that is was compiled for
 IRIX 4.  IRIX 6, which the O2s use, doesn't support those binaries any
 more.  Since XMol is no longer updated and source isn't available, you
 will have to use other programs.  The one I know the most (because I
 helped develop it) is VMD at http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/ .
 Other good, free ones I've heard of are MOLMOL and gOpenMol, which you
 should be able to find with a net search program.
                                                 Andrew Dalke
                                                 dalke # - at - # mag.com
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         XMOL will not run on an O2. The executable was compiled for an
 entirely different binary architecture on earlier SGI's.
         Here, we have O2s, Indigo 2s and and Indigo. The only computer
 that will run XMOL is the Indigo.
         As far as I know, there are no plans to update the executable.
 There has been much discussion in CCL about this; there are alternate
 packages for many situations.
                                                 Dan Strahs
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 University of Santiago de Chile, Faculty of Chemistry and Biology,
 Computational Chemistry Lab.
 Phone: (562) 681 2575-Anexo:799 ; Fax: (562) 681 2108
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