Re: CCL:Electrostatic model for ordinary hydrogen bonds
- From: Arno Papazyan <arno-0at0-almaak.usc.edu>
- Subject: Re: CCL:Electrostatic model for ordinary hydrogen
bonds
- Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 06:51:29 -0700 (PDT)
Heh, the "the disappearing hydrogen" is a fine technical point.
However,
the electrostatic effect of the HB would be a nice, round zero without the
electrostatic parameters. **That** is the important effect of the HB. The
disappearing hydrogen can be more fairly described as part of the
force-field model, and is indeed a good way of taking the covalent part of
the HB into account. Just like SHAKE is a good way of acknowledging that
bonds exist between atoms without actually doing its QM.
Regards,
Arno Papazyan
On Tue, 19 May 1998, Donald E. Williams wrote:
>
> There seems to be a widespread misunderstanding that an ordinary
> hydrogen bond (say O-H...O) can be modeled with a purely electrostatic
> potential by "dumping everything into electrostatic parameters".
If anyone
> knows of such a model, I would like to hear about it.
> There is a parameterization called the "disappearing hydrogen"
model of
> the OHB. In this model, electrostatics are included, but also (and very
> importantly) the repulsion of the hydrogen atom is set to zero, quite a
drastic
> change from a normal hydrogen atom. It is easily shown that the effect of
> eliminating hydrogen repulsion is by far more important than the
> electrostatics.
>
> >decompose an HB into its "electrostatic" and
"covalent" contributions. An
> >"ordinary" HB (OHB) has both electrostatic and covalent
components, although
> >it can be reasonably modelled by classical force fields by dumping
everything
> >into electrostatic parameters. An OHB can be neutral or charged. A
charged
>
> -Donald Williams
>
> --
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> Department of Chemistry
> University of Louisville phone:502-852-5975
> Louisville, KY 40292 fax: 502-852-8149
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