Re: CCL:size of s,p,d orbitals



The discussion given in Chs. 8 and 9 of Slater's Quantum Theory of Atomic
 Structure, v. I still seems to me one of the clearest on the subject.
 John C. Slater, Quantum Theory of Atomic Structure, v. I, McGraw Hill, New
 York, Toronto, London, 1960.
 REH
 >Dear Collegues,
 >until 1 hour ago, I firmly believed that p-orbitals are larger than s-
 >orbitals for atoms that are in the same row of the periodic table. Only
 >for the second row the sizes were about same. This conviction is mainly
 >due to a paper by Werner Kutzelnigg, Angew. Chem. 1984, 96, 262-286. I
 >further believed that s electrons are attracted stronger by the nuclei
 >because they have no node at the position of the nucleus and that the
 >similar size of s- and p-orbitals in the second row is due to the lack of
 >1p orbitals and therefore cancellation of two effects: less attraction of
 >p electrons due to the node and lack of repulsion between 2p and a lower
 >shell p-orbital. This is also what I kept telling our first year students.
 >
 >Today a collegue approached me who teaches inorganic chemistry to our
 >third year students. She told me that she was surprized that the students
 >did not know that the order according to decreasing size is s > p > d
 >within the same row. After admitting that this was to be blamed on me, she
 >showed me the Inorganic Chemistry textbook by Huhee. There are plots of
 >radial distribution times r square, clearly indicating that the maximum
 >shifts to smaller values from s to p to d. Huhee quotes Herberg's
 "Atomic
 >Spectra and Atomic Structure" from 1944. In Kutzelniggs article the
 >average distance of electrons from the nucleus was used not radial
 >distribution times r square.
 >
 >The question now is: Do the two ways to determine the size of the orbitals
 >lead to different conclusions? Is there a mistake somewhere? Is there
 >newer information? Which orbitals are bigger? What is best method to
 >determine the size to explain bonding, hybridization, or lack thereof and
 >so on?
 >
 >Thanks in advance for suggestions,
 >Ulrike Salzner
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 >
 >Dr. Ulrike Salzner
 >Associate Professor
 >Department of Chemistry		Tel.: (312) 290-2122
 >Bilkent University		Fax.: (312) 266-5097
 >06533 Bilkent, Ankara 		e-mail: salzner -8 at 8- fen.bilkent.edu.tr
 >Turkey
 >
 Robert E. Harris  Phone: 573-882-3274.  Fax:  573-882-2754
 Department of Chemistry, University of Missouri-Columbia
 Columbia, Missouri, USA 65211