From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Sun Feb 19 22:49:00 2006 From: "Brian Salter-Duke b_duke/a\octa4.net.au" To: CCL Subject: CCL: eugen schwarz on orbitals Message-Id: <-30930-060219213005-21281-pZU31dnbQER9LD3vfBYgSQ{:}server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Brian Salter-Duke Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:29:08 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Brian Salter-Duke [b_duke###octa4.net.au] Eric, Could you give us an actual reference? It is not in the latest issue I can access on the web. Regards, Brian. On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 08:32:53PM -0500, Eric Scerri scerri * chem.ucla.edu wrote: > Sent to CCL by: Eric Scerri [scerri:_:chem.ucla.edu] > > > --Apple-Mail-3-872680420 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=US-ASCII; > delsp=yes; > format=flowed > > > > I am wondering what list members think about the article on > observation of orbitals in the latest issue of Angewandte Chemie (Int > Ed')? > > If indeed orbitals can be observed in the various senses that Schwarz > indicates, how should textbook accounts on the unobservability of > orbitals be modified? This is not something that the author addresses. > > regards, > > > > Dr. Eric Scerri > Department of Chemistry & Biochemistry, > Charles Young Drive, > Los Angeles, > CA 90095. > > 310 206 7443 > fax: 310 206 2061 > > UCLA faculty web page: http://www.chem.ucla.edu/dept/Faculty/scerri/ > > Editor of Foundations of Chemistry, > http://www.springer.com/sgw/cda/frontpage/0,11855,4-40399-70-35545882- > detailsPage%253Djournal%257CmostViewedArticles%257CmostViewedArticles, > 00.html > > International Society for the Philosophy of Chemistry, > http://ispc.sas.upenn.edu/ > > > > > > --Apple-Mail-3-872680420 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Type: text/html; > charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">

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