From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Aug 26 10:59:01 2008 From: "Toomas Tamm tt-ccl2\a/yki.ttu.ee" To: CCL Subject: CCL: End of a frequency job Message-Id: <-37627-080826035848-8772-RwpEagErFwFbICpQH7r4ng#%#server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Toomas Tamm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:01:41 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Toomas Tamm [tt-ccl2=yki.ttu.ee] On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 13:46 -0400, Close, David M. CLOSED^mail.etsu.edu wrote: > Now a more basic question. If you are taking a course on doing > calculations, you are always told you must use the same basis sets in > frequency calculations as on the original optimizations. But people > seem to be getting away from this are very large calculations. If it > takes a week to do an optimization, it might take 3-4 weeks to do a > frequency calculation. So people are now using smaller basis sets to do > faster frequency calcs. On several occasions, we have re-optimized the structure with a smaller basis set, checked that no significant changes in geometry have occurred (usually the gradients at initial optimization step, and the number of additional steps needed, are good diagnostics, too), and then performed a frequency calculation for the re-optimized geometry, using the smaller basis set. We have even used the zero-point energies from such calculations together with electronic energies from the large-basis calculations. I believe this is theoretically correct, just less accurate than calculating the frequencies with the larger basis set. Of course there remains the slight possiblity that the large-basis-set geometry was a transition state while the small-basis-set geometry is a minimum. We have considered the risk small enough given the savings in computation time. Any comments on this procedure? -- Toomas Tamm e-mail: tt-ccl2 (at) kky . ttu . ee Chair of Inorganic Chemistry voice: INT+372-620-2810 Tallinn University of Technology fax: INT+372-620-2828 Ehitajate tee 5, EE-19086 Tallinn, Estonia http://www.kk.ttu.ee/toomas/