From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Apr 15 14:22:00 2010 From: "Michel Petitjean petitjean.chiral%%gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Smiles convention for stereoisomers ? Message-Id: <-41667-100415133518-10151-l9dfurI4W3mgSAt2ug0olQ*o*server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Michel Petitjean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:38:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Michel Petitjean [petitjean.chiral_+_gmail.com] Hi there, Does anybody know about the exact convention to specify atoms positions from a SMILES having stereocenters in rings ? It seems there is a difference in treatment for ring closure and other atoms ? For instance for C[C|,||,|H]1C[C|,||,|H](O)CC(=O)O1 For the second center, not a ring closure, we look from the CC bond, and we have H,O,C clockwise. For the first one how does one proceed ? If one looks from first C to second C, then H, C, O should be positioned clockwise, whereas actually it seems it is countercloskwise. Idem from the example on their site : http://www.daylight.com/dayhtml/doc/theory/theory.smiles.html C[C|,|H]1CCCCO1 I could not understand the few sentences on SMILES theory related to ring closure digit appearance. Thanks by advance Michel Petitjean.