From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Apr 5 12:33:00 2011 From: "Pierre Archirel pierre.archirel---u-psud.fr" To: CCL Subject: CCL: IRC for flat PES Message-Id: <-44297-110405122021-17714-wRVe8VpVubvLUsgdRUDTVw%%server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Pierre Archirel" Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:20:18 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Pierre Archirel" [pierre.archirel..u-psud.fr] This is an answer to E. V. Horbatenko If the PES is very flat there is a difficult issue in the separation of the center of mass of the molecule. It is very useful to compare the "negative" frequency characterising the TS with the six "zero" frequencies coming from the global translation and rotation. I have two examples of this, for the same molecule, with B3LYP and int=ultrafine: Example 1: Low frequencies --- -36.0058 -2.8583 -0.0001 0.0005 0.0009 5.9011 Low frequencies --- 10.3067 18.8761 33.4494 it can be seen that the "TS" frequency (-36.0058) is much larger (by a factor 10) than the first "zero" frequency (-2.8583). Actually the IRC calculation worked nicely. Example 2: Low frequencies --- -13.7156 -6.3252 -3.9374 -0.0003 0.0003 0.0005 Low frequencies --- 5.4561 16.2158 28.6961 In this case the "TS" frequency (-13.7156) is only two times larger than the first "zero" frequency (-6.3252). I could not make the IRC calculation even start. Obviously in this case the "TS" direction is polluted by global rotation. Have you compared these values? Pierre Archirel LCP, Universite Paris-Sud, France pierre.archirel.u-psud.fr