From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Sun Nov 13 20:42:01 2011
From: "Jose R. Valverde jrvalverde:+:cnb.csic.es" <owner-chemistry%x%server.ccl.net>
To: CCL
Subject: CCL: Book of computational chemistry
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Sent to CCL by: "Jose R. Valverde" [jrvalverde-x-cnb.csic.es]
I don't think so.

	It is true there is a tax, for private copying. That is intended to cover
only private copies of materials you have bought yourself as I understand it. And
it is actually this that has raised so many protest against what most people consider
an abuse (that you pay for your private backup copy even if you do not make any).

	Copyright is a serious issue and Spanish Copyright law makes it very clear
under which circumstances you can use copyrighted materials and to which extent.
And Spanish law is pretty clear on that: you cannot make copies of books. Dot.

	There is a grey area regarding use of P2P networks for broadcasting
materials for non-profit use. Agreed. And it is composed by abusive practice
> from the Spanish copyright agencies which more often than not try to forbid
what any common sense should consider fair use (even demanding royalties from
the use of copyleft or CC music), which has made most of society and many judges 
to stand against them. That has meant often that justice would be reluctant to 
rule for them, protecting common people.

	But abuse from one side does not justify abuse from the other. Not at
least in a Rechtsstaat (state of law).

	In that you are right: it depends on your jurisdiction, if you do not
live in a state that respects rights, then YMMV.

				j
	

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:01:17 +0100
"Adrią Cereto Massagué adrian.cereto*_*gmail.com" <owner-chemistry**ccl.net> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> El 9 de novembre de 2011 14:35, G. Gopakumar gopakumar.gopinadhan(-)
> googlemail.com <owner-chemistry],[ccl.net> ha escrit:
> 
> > It is illegal, and is
> > not a good practice.
> >
> 
> Wether it is legal or not, it depends on your local laws. In Spain it is
> completely legal, for example.
> 
> Wether it is a good practice or not, that is a different topic, which I
> find very subjective. Personally I think that sharing knowledge should not
> be considered as a bad practice, because you know, science is all about
> that. But that is something which should be discussed elsewhere, not in
> this list.
> 
> But anyways, I think that asking people to send books for free in this list
> is at least impolite and out of place.
> 
>  Adrią
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9 November 2011 11:53, Vijay Kumar Tak takvijay:+:gmail.com <owner-chemistry
> > .. ccl.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Sent to CCL by: "Vijay  Kumar Tak" [takvijay===gmail.com]
> >> Hello Everybody,
> >> If any one have electronic copy of these two books, please send me as an
> >> attached document.
> >> 1.A Laboratory Book of Computational Organic Chemistry
> >> by: W.J. Hehre, A.J. Shusterman, and W.W. Huang and
> >> 2.Computational Advances In Organic Chemistry: Molecular Structure And
> >> Reactivity by Cemil Vgretir, Imre G. Csizmadia, Cemil Ogretir.
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >> Vijay Tak
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >


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