From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Dec 1 23:56:00 2011 From: "Abrash, Sam sabrash#,#richmond.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Basis sets for Xe Message-Id: <-45966-111201233119-21484-NOMRagMlHv97xt5EuExcvQ\a/server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Abrash, Sam" Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DB1DF332AFC21544BA642BA6B7D4654D368B6570E6UREXCHANGESCC_" Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:31:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Abrash, Sam" [sabrash**richmond.edu] --_000_DB1DF332AFC21544BA642BA6B7D4654D368B6570E6UREXCHANGESCC_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In addition to finding a basis set for Xe, it's important to understand why= 6-31G is not extended as far as Xe. For very heavy atoms such as Xe, the = very large nuclear charge means that core electrons are moving at speeds at= which special relativity has an important effect on the results. One such= results is that the bond lengths calculated for very heavy atoms using the= Dirac equation, which includes the effect of special relativity are shorte= r than those from the Schrodinger equation, which ignores relativistic effe= cts. This shortening of bond lengths is called relativistic contraction. The way that this is handled for most of us is to use basis sets in which t= he functions for the core electrons are replaced by potential energy functi= ons which have been calculated using the dirac equation. These are called = relativistic effective core potentials, although they are usually simply re= ferred to as ECPs. The valence electrons are treated with normal basis fun= ctions since electron shielding means that their average velocities are far= from the relativistic limit. Using these ECP basis sets has two attractiv= e outcomes. First, it means that the relativistic effects are accounted fo= r. Second, since the large number of core electrons is replaced by a relat= ively small number of potential functions, the computational expense is sub= stantially reduced compared to all electron bases. I hope this is helpful. Best regards, Sam Samuel A. Abrash Department of Chemistry University of Richmond Richmond, VA 23173 Phone: 804-289-8248 Fax: 804-287-1897 E-mail: sabrash : richmond.edu Web-page: http://www.richmond.edu/~sabrash "In 1893 Charles Hinton left Japan to become a mathematics instructor at Pr= inceton University, where he invented a baseball-pitching machine that used= gunpowder to propel the balls, like a cannon. After several accidents, th= e device was abandoned and Hinton lost his job ..." Terry Pratchett, Ian St= eward and Jack Cohen, The Science of Diskworld III > From: owner-chemistry+sabrash=3D=3Drichmond.edu : ccl.net [mailto:owner-chemi= stry+sabrash=3D=3Drichmond.edu : ccl.net] On Behalf Of dipankar roy theodip(a= )gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:35 PM To: Abrash, Sam Subject: CCL:G: Basis sets for Xe Hi, You can try basis sets like def2-TZVP or modified correlation consistent ba= sis sets of Dunning with ECPs. You can get them from EMSL basis set exchang= e. best, Dipankar Roy ----------------------------------- Dr. Dipankar Roy Research Associate Hunter College (CUNY) 695 Park Avenue New York, USA NY-10065 ----------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Alec Young alecyoung76(0)yahoo.com > wro= te: Sent to CCL by: "Alec Young" [alecyoung76[#]yahoo.com] Deal All, I used M052X/6-31+G* in gaussian trying to optimize the distance between Xe= and a ethylene. And I got this error: "Atomic number out of range for 6-31G basis set." What basis set can I use? Thanks, -Alec -=3D This is automatically added to each message by the mailing script =3D-=
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In addition to finding a basis set for Xe, it’s important = to understand why 6-31G is not extended as far as Xe.  For very heavy = atoms such as Xe, the very large nuclear charge means that core electrons a= re moving at speeds at which special relativity has an important effect on = the results.  One such results is that the bond lengths calculated for= very heavy atoms using the Dirac equation, which includes the effect of sp= ecial relativity are shorter than those from the Schrodinger equation, whic= h ignores relativistic effects.  This shortening of bond lengths is ca= lled relativistic contraction.

 

<= span style=3D'color:blue'>The way that this is handled for most of us is to= use basis sets in which the functions for the core electrons are replaced = by potential energy functions which have been calculated using the dirac eq= uation.  These are called relativistic effective core potentials, alth= ough they are usually simply referred to as ECPs.  The valence electro= ns are treated with normal basis functions since electron shielding means t= hat their average velocities are far from the relativistic limit.  Usi= ng these ECP basis sets has two attractive outcomes.  First, it means = that the relativistic effects are accounted for.  Second, since the la= rge number of core electrons is replaced by a relatively small number of po= tential functions, the computational expense is substantially reduced compa= red to all electron bases.

 

I hope this is helpful.

 

Best regards,

Sam

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Samuel A. Abrash
Departm= ent of Chemistry
University of Richmond
Richmond, VA 23173
Phone:&= nbsp; 804-289-8248
Fax:  804-287-1897
E-mail:  sabrash : richmond.edu
Web-page:  http://www.richmond.edu/~sab= rash

"In 1893 C= harles Hinton left Japan to become a mathematics instructor at Princet= on University, where he invented a baseball-pitching machine that used= gunpowder to propel the balls, like a cannon.  After several accident= s, the device was abandoned and Hinton lost his job ..." Terry Pratche= tt, Ian Steward and Jack Cohen, The Science of Diskworld III

 

From: owner-chemistry+sabrash=3D=3Drichmond= .edu : ccl.net [mailto:owner-chemistry+sabrash=3D=3Drichmond.edu : ccl.net] = On Behalf Of dipankar roy theodip(a)gmail.com
Sent: Thursday,= December 01, 2011 7:35 PM
To: Abrash, Sam
Subject: CCL= :G: Basis sets for Xe

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Hi,

= You can try basis sets like def2-TZVP or modified correlation consistent basis sets of Dunning with= ECPs. You can get them from EMSL basis set exchange. 

 

best,

= Dipankar Roy

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Dr. Dipankar Roy

Research Associate

H= unter College (CUNY)

695 Park= Avenue

New York, USA

NY-10065

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Sent to CCL by: "Alec  Young" [alecyoung76[#]yahoo.com]
Deal All,

= I used M052X/6-31+G* in gaussian trying to optimize the distance between Xe= and a ethylene. And I got this error:

"Atomic number out of ra= nge for 6-31G basis set."

What basis set can I use?

Than= ks,

-Alec



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