CCL: Charged systems in electric field
- From: kalyan <onekalyan(~)yahoo.com>
- Subject: CCL: Charged systems in electric field
- Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 21:30:15 +0200
Thanks a lot
Best regards
Kalyan
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> From: Johannes Hachmann jh:chemistry.harvard.edu
Sent: 21/05/2013 21:17
To: Dhar, Kalyan kumar
Subject: CCL: Charged systems in electric field
Sent to CCL by: "Johannes Hachmann" [jh:chemistry.harvard.edu]
Hi Cina,
This here might help:
http://jcp.aip.org/resource/1/jcpsa6/v136/i2/p024101_s1?bypassSSO=1
Best
Johannes
-----------------------------------------------
Dr. Johannes Hachmann
Research Associate
Harvard University
Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
12 Oxford St, Rm M104A
Cambridge, MA 02138
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> chemistry+jh==chemistry.harvard.edu|a|ccl.net] On Behalf Of Cina Foroutan-
> Nejad canyslopus_+_yahoo.co.uk
> Sent: Thursday, 16 May, 2013 12:49
> To: Hachmann, Johannes
> Subject: CCL: Charged systems in electric field
>
> Dear CCLers,
>
> I am sorry for resending me request! I was so distracted that did not read
my
> message!
> I think no one will understand my message!
> Here is the correct question:
>
> I am looking for a practical solution for measuring the binding energy of
a
> charged complex in uniform electric field. As far as I know this is not a
trivial
> task!
> For neutral or charged systems without electric field one can employ the
> following equation for measuring the binding nergy:
>
> E(binding)[AB+]= E[AB+] - {EA + E[B+]}
>
> However, for charged systems in external field the total energy is a gauge
> dependent property. Does anyone know an example in literature that someone
> measured the binding energy of charged species in electric filed? Any help
will
> be highly appreciated.
>
> With my sincere regards,
> Cina Foroutan-Nejad
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Cina Foroutan-Nejad canyslopus(-)yahoo.co.uk <owner-chemistry- -
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> To: "Foroutan-Nejad, Cina " <canyslopus- -yahoo.co.uk>
> Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2013, 16:01
> Subject: CCL: Charged systems in electric field
>
>
>
> Sent to CCL by: "Cina Foroutan-Nejad"
[canyslopus~!~yahoo.co.uk]
> Dear CCLers,
>
> I am looking for a practical solution for measuring the binding energy of
a
> charged complex in uniform electric field. As far as I know this is not a
> trivial task!
> For neutral systems without electric field one can employ the following
> equation for a charged complex:
>
> E(binding)[AB+]= E[AB+] - {EA + E[B+]}
>
> However, for charged systems in external field the total energy is a gauge
> dependent property. Does anyone know an example in literature that someone
> measured the binding energy of charged species in electric filed?
> Any help will be highly appreciated.
>
> With my sincere regards,
> Cina Foroutan-Nejad
>
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> 16px; font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif;
background-
> color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I am sorry for resending
me
request! I
> was so distracted that did not read my message!</div><div
style="color:
rgb(0,
> 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york',
times, serif;
> background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I think no one
will
> understand my message!</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size:
16px;
> font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif;
background-color:
> transparent; font-style:
> normal;">Here is the correct question:</div><div
style="color: rgb(0, 0,
0);
> font-size: 16px; font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times,
serif;
> background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><br></div><div><span
> style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;">I am
looking
> for a practical solution for measuring the binding energy of
a </span><br
> style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;"><span
> style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;">charged
> complex in uniform electric field. As far as I know this is not
> a </span><br style="font-family: 'times new roman',
'new york',
times,
> serif;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new
york', times,
> serif;">trivial task!</span><br style="font-family:
'times new roman',
'new
> york', times, serif;"><span style="font-family: 'times new
roman', 'new
york',
> times, serif;">For neutral or charged systems without electric
field
> one can employ the following </span><br
style="font-family: 'times
new
> roman', 'new york', times, serif;"><span
style="font-family: 'times new
roman',
> 'new york', times, serif;">equation for measuring the binding
nergy:</span><br
> style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;"><br
> style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;"><span
> style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
> serif;">E(binding)[AB+]= E[AB+] - {EA + E[B+]}</span><br
style="font-family:
> 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;"><br
style="font-family:
'times new
> roman', 'new york', times, serif;"><span
style="font-family: 'times new
roman',
> 'new york', times, serif;">However, for charged systems in external
field
the
> total energy is a gauge </span><br
style="font-family: 'times new
> roman', 'new york', times, serif;"><span
style="font-family: 'times new
roman',
> 'new york', times, serif;">dependent property. Does anyone know
> an example in literature that someone </span><br
style="font-family:
> 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;"><span
style="font-family:
'times
> new roman', 'new york', times, serif;">measured the binding energy
of
charged
> species in electric filed? </span><br
style="font-family: 'times new
> roman', 'new york', times, serif;"><span
style="font-family: 'times new
roman',
> 'new york', times, serif;">Any help will be highly
appreciated. </span><br
> style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;"><br
> style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;"><span
> style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;">With my
> sincere regards,</span><br style="font-family: 'times new
roman', 'new
york',
> times, serif;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman',
'new york',
times,
> serif;">Cina Foroutan-Nejad</span><br></div>
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> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Cina
Foroutan-Nejad
> canyslopus(-)yahoo.co.uk <owner-chemistry-
-ccl.net><br> <b><span
> style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
"Foroutan-Nejad, Cina "
> <canyslopus- -yahoo.co.uk> <br> <b><span
style="font-weight:
> bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 16 May 2013,
16:01<br> <b><span
> style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
CCL: Charged systems in
> electric field<br> </font> </div> <div
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> to CCL by: "Cina Foroutan-Nejad"
[canyslopus~!~yahoo.co.uk]<br>Dear
> CCLers,<br><br>I am looking for a practical solution for
measuring the
binding
> energy of a <br>charged complex in uniform electric field. As far as
I
know this
> is not a <br>trivial task!<br>For neutral systems without
electric field
one can
> employ the following <br>equation for a charged
> complex:<br><br>E(binding)[AB+]= E[AB+] - {EA +
E[B+]}<br><br>However, for
> charged systems in external field the total energy is a gauge
<br>dependent
> property. Does anyone know an example in literature that someone
> <br>measured the binding energy of charged species in electric filed?
<br>Any
> help will be highly appreciated. <br><br>With my sincere
regards,<br>Cina
>
Foroutan-Nejad<br>----------------------------------------------------------
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style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Thanks a
lot<br><br>Best regards
<br>Kalyan<br></div></div><hr><span
style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight:
bold;">From: </span><span style="font-family:
Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Johannes Hachmann
jh:chemistry.harvard.edu</span><br><span style="font-family:
Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent:
</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size:
10pt;">21/05/2013 21:17</span><br><span
style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight:
bold;">To: </span><span style="font-family:
Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Dhar, Kalyan kumar
</span><br><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif;
font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span
style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">CCL:
Charged systems in electric field</span><br><br><br>Sent
to CCL by: "Johannes Hachmann" [jh:chemistry.harvard.edu]<br>Hi
Cina,<br><br>This here might help:<br>http://jcp.aip.org/resource/1/jcpsa6/v136/i2/p024101_s1?bypassSSO=1
<br><br>Best <br><br>Johannes
<br><br>-----------------------------------------------<br>Dr.
Johannes Hachmann<br>Research Associate<br>Harvard
University<br>Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology<br>12
Oxford St, Rm M104A<br>Cambridge, MA
02138<br>-----------------------------------------------<br><br><br><br>>
-----Original Message-----<br>> From:
owner-chemistry+jh==chemistry.harvard.edu|a|ccl.net [mailto:owner-<br>>
chemistry+jh==chemistry.harvard.edu|a|ccl.net] On Behalf Of Cina
Foroutan-<br>> Nejad canyslopus_+_yahoo.co.uk<br>>
Sent: Thursday, 16 May, 2013 12:49<br>> To: Hachmann, Johannes
<br>> Subject: CCL: Charged systems in electric
field<br>> <br>> Dear CCLers,<br>>
<br>> I am sorry for resending me request! I was so distracted that
did not read<br>my<br>> message!<br>> I think no
one will understand my message!<br>> Here is the correct
question:<br>> <br>> I am looking for a practical
solution for measuring the binding energy of<br>a<br>>
charged complex in uniform electric field. As far as I know this is not
a<br>trivial<br>> task!<br>> For neutral or
charged systems without electric field one can employ the<br>>
following equation for measuring the binding nergy:<br>>
<br>> E(binding)[AB+]= E[AB+] - {EA + E[B+]}<br>>
<br>> However, for charged systems in external field the total
energy is a gauge<br>> dependent property. Does anyone know an
example in literature that someone<br>> measured the binding energy
of charged species in electric filed? Any help<br>will<br>>
be highly appreciated.<br>> <br>> With my sincere
regards,<br>> Cina Foroutan-Nejad<br>>
<br>> <br>>
________________________________<br>> From: Cina
Foroutan-Nejad canyslopus(-)yahoo.co.uk <owner-chemistry-
-<br>> ccl.net><br>> To: "Foroutan-Nejad,
Cina " <canyslopus- -yahoo.co.uk><br>> Sent:
Thursday, 16 May 2013, 16:01<br>> Subject: CCL: Charged systems in
electric field<br>> <br>> <br>>
<br>> Sent to CCL by: "Cina Foroutan-Nejad"
[canyslopus~!~yahoo.co.uk]<br>> Dear CCLers,<br>>
<br>> I am looking for a practical solution for measuring the
binding energy of<br>a<br>> charged complex in uniform
electric field. As far as I know this is not a<br>> trivial
task!<br>> For neutral systems without electric field one can
employ the following<br>> equation for a charged
complex:<br>> <br>> E(binding)[AB+]= E[AB+] - {EA +
E[B+]}<br>> <br>> However, for charged systems in
external field the total energy is a gauge<br>> dependent property.
Does anyone know an example in literature that someone<br>>
measured the binding energy of charged species in electric
filed?<br>> Any help will be highly appreciated.<br>>
<br>> With my sincere regards,<br>> Cina
Foroutan-Nejad<br>>
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font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times,
serif;<br>background-<br>> color: transparent; font-style:
normal;">I am sorry for resending me<br>request!
I<br>> was so distracted that did not read my
message!</div><div
style="color:<br>rgb(0,<br>> 0, 0); font-size: 16px;
font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york',<br>times,
serif;<br>> background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;">I think no one will<br>> understand my
message!</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size:<br>16px;<br>> font-family: 'bookman old style',
'new york', times, serif;<br>background-color:<br>>
transparent; font-style:<br>> normal;">Here
is the correct question:</div><div style="color:
rgb(0, 0,<br>0);<br>> font-size: 16px; font-family: 'bookman
old style', 'new york', times,<br>serif;<br>>
background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><br></div><div><span<br>>
style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;">I am<br>looking<br>> for a practical
solution for measuring the binding energy
of<br>a&nbsp;</span><br<br>>
style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;"><span<br>> style="font-family:
'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;">charged<br>> complex in uniform electric field.
As far as I know this is not<br>>
a&nbsp;</span><br style="font-family: 'times
new roman', 'new york',<br>times,<br>>
serif;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman',
'new york', times,<br>> serif;">trivial
task!</span><br style="font-family: 'times new
roman',<br>'new<br>> york', times,
serif;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman',
'new<br>york',<br>> times, serif;">For neutral or
charged systems without electric field<br>> one can
employ the following&nbsp;</span><br
style="font-family: 'times<br>new<br>> roman', 'new
york', times, serif;"><span style="font-family: 'times
new<br>roman',<br>> 'new york', times,
serif;">equation for measuring the
binding<br>nergy:</span><br<br>>
style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;"><br<br>> style="font-family: 'times
new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;"><span<br>> style="font-family:
'times new roman', 'new york', times,<br>>
serif;">E(binding)[AB+]= E[AB+] - {EA +
E[B+]}</span><br<br>style="font-family:<br>>
'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;"><br
style="font-family:<br>'times new<br>> roman', 'new
york', times, serif;"><span style="font-family: 'times
new<br>roman',<br>> 'new york', times,
serif;">However, for charged systems in external
field<br>the<br>> total energy is a
gauge&nbsp;</span><br style="font-family:
'times new<br>> roman', 'new york', times,
serif;"><span style="font-family: 'times
new<br>roman',<br>> 'new york', times,
serif;">dependent property. Does anyone
know<br>> an example in literature that
someone&nbsp;</span><br
style="font-family:<br>> 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;"><span
style="font-family:<br>'times<br>> new roman', 'new
york', times, serif;">measured the binding energy
of<br>charged<br>> species in electric
filed?&nbsp;</span><br style="font-family:
'times new<br>> roman', 'new york', times,
serif;"><span style="font-family: 'times
new<br>roman',<br>> 'new york', times,
serif;">Any help will be
highly<br>appreciated.&nbsp;</span><br<br>>
style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;"><br<br>> style="font-family: 'times
new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;"><span<br>> style="font-family:
'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;">With
my<br>> sincere regards,</span><br
style="font-family: 'times new roman',
'new<br>york',<br>> times, serif;"><span
style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new
york',<br>times,<br>> serif;">Cina
Foroutan-Nejad</span><br></div>
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<b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
Cina Foroutan-Nejad<br>> canyslopus(-)yahoo.co.uk
&lt;owner-chemistry- -ccl.net&gt;<br>
<b><span<br>> style="font-weight:
bold;">To:</span></b>
"Foroutan-Nejad, Cina "<br>> &lt;canyslopus-
-yahoo.co.uk&gt; <br> <b><span
style="font-weight:<br>>
bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 16 May
2013, 16:01<br> <b><span<br>>
style="font-weight:
bold;">Subject:</span></b> CCL: Charged
systems in<br>> electric field<br>
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<div<br>class="y_msg_container"><br><br>Sent<br>>
to CCL by: "Cina&nbsp; Foroutan-Nejad"
[canyslopus~!~yahoo.co.uk]<br>Dear<br>>
CCLers,<br><br>I am looking for a practical solution
for measuring the<br>binding<br>> energy of a
<br>charged complex in uniform electric field. As far as
I<br>know this<br>> is not a <br>trivial
task!<br>For neutral systems without electric field<br>one
can<br>> employ the following <br>equation
for a charged<br>>
complex:<br><br>E(binding)[AB+]= E[AB+] - {EA +
E[B+]}<br><br>However, for<br>> charged
systems in external field the total energy is a
gauge<br><br>dependent<br>> property. Does
anyone know an example in literature that someone<br>>
<br>measured the binding energy of charged species in electric
filed?<br><br>Any<br>> help will be highly
appreciated. <br><br>With my sincere
regards,<br>Cina<br>><br>Foroutan-Nejad<br>----------------------------------------------------------<br>--------------<br>>
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