From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Dec 30 13:36:01 2013 From: "Stefan Grimme grimme=thch.uni-bonn.de" To: CCL Subject: CCL: Usage of X-ray structure for DFT calculations Message-Id: <-49488-131230133217-18386-JuTdBQlAwEamcQk8duHl8A+/-server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Stefan Grimme" Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:32:15 -0500 Sent to CCL by: "Stefan Grimme" [grimme,+,thch.uni-bonn.de] Dear Johan Paul, indeed the referee is right that any theoretical, isolated molecular structure can not directly be compared to those of a molecular crystal because the latter is influenced by intermolecular interactions of various type, namely Pauli-repulsion, induction, electrostatics, and dispersion ("packing forces"). If these (and further thermal) effects are significant (rarely) or negligible (the more frequent case) depends on the system (and in particular on charges/counter-ions). We recently investigated a difficult case by molecular and periodic DFT-D3 calculations: J. Moellmann and S. Grimme, Influence of Crystal Packing on an Organometallic Ruthenium(IV) Complex Structure: The Right Distance for the Right Reason, Organometallics, (2013), 32, 3784-3787. DOI: 10.1021/om400386x For a very recent unbiased and fair benchmark of organic molecule gas phase structures by experiment and DFT see: S. Grimme, M. Steinmetz, Effects of London dispersion correction in density functional theory on the structures of organic molecules in the gas phase, Phys. Chem. Chem. Phys., (2013), 15, 16031-16042. DOI: 10.1039/c3cp52293h Hope this helps Stefan