CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous?

To be fair, upon visiting their website one can mouse over "Tech
 Support,"
 click on "More...," and be presented with quite a lot of information,
 including "Contacting Gaussian, Inc. Technical Support." Granted it's
 not a
 mailing list, but their model allows them to ensure information is correct
 as ways of doing things, keywords, etc. change.
 I don't think I've ever had a request for help ignored by Gaussian. I can't
 say the same for mailing lists in general. CCL raises the bar though, and is
 a fantastic resource. That DVD is intriguing...
 - Chris
 -----Original Message-----
 > From: owner-chemistry+christopher.chang==nrel.govÌl.net
 [mailto:owner-chemistry+christopher.chang==nrel.govÌl.net] On Behalf Of
 Salter-Duke, Brian James  brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 8:31 PM
 To: Chang, Christopher
 Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous?
 Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James "
 [brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan,
 Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they should
 as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other programs,
 e.g.
 GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users to help
 each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a very
 inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list.
 Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is called
 the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this shames them
 into doing so.
 Cheers, Brian.
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote:
 >
 > Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net
 > Dear CCL,
 > This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about supporting
 CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local Columbus OH
 NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a member...).
 Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these bursts of
 benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably more
 inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for
 most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and
 more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in
 particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed on the
 Web for more than 20 years.
 >
 > At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear beside
 one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what I hear,
 they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and they do
 help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put the
 banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL expenses.
 >
 > There are other ways to support CCL:
 > 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL
 >    Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs
 >    This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the comp
 >    chem or related position. People tell me that they find
 >    a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do not
 >    find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job
 >    description. The ads have counters, so you can see that they
 >    are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a
 candidate
 >    is now.
 >
 > 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD.
 >    http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd
 >    You can grep and do things like:
 >      find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \;
 >    and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case
 >    of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already
 ther?),
 >    the CCL will survive better than other computational chemistry
 >    repositories. Someone will have a copy of it.
 >
 > 3) You can also be a personal sponsor.
 >    http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members
 >    For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular.
 >    BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollars,
 >    give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet hear
 about
 >    anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what do
 >    I know?
 >
 > 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops.
 >    This service is free but I do not shy if you help me
 >    with 50 USD donation:
 >    http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/
 >
 > Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital
 budget" for CCL
 and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of CCL is
 you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your
 contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and participating.
 Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... Some
 grad students were born after CCL started...
 >
 > Thank you all for being a part of CCL.
 > Jan
 > --
 > Jan Labanowski
 > jkl%a%ccl.net and other addresses>
 --
    Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke)   Brian.Salter-Duke*_*monash.edu
                     Adjunct Associate Professor
             Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences
       Monash University Parkville Campus, VIC 3052, Australia
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