From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Apr 21 13:13:01 2015 From: "Brian Skinn bskinn~~alum.mit.edu" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? Message-Id: <-51293-150421113248-13697-kAEBiMLp7edpIBtzYlPIgw++server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Brian Skinn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c24118e7ff7605143dc13f Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:32:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Brian Skinn [bskinn=alum.mit.edu] --001a11c24118e7ff7605143dc13f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Concur, as evidenced by the fact that questions regarding Gaussian often do not explicitly state that it is the software to which the question pertains; while those questions addressing other packages almost invariably lead with identification of the relevant software. -Brian On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jim Kress jimkress35,,gmail.com < owner-chemistry*ccl.net> wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [jimkress35,+,gmail.com] > Agree. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com=ccl.net > [mailto:owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com=ccl.net] On Behalf Of > Salter-Duke, Brian James brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:31 PM > To: Kress, Jim > Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? > > > Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James " > [brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan, > > Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they should > as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other programs, > e.g. > GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users to help > each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a very > inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list. > Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is called > the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this shames > them > into doing so. > > Cheers, Brian. > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote: > > > > Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net > > Dear CCL, > > This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about supporting > CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local Columbus > OH > NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a > member...). > Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these bursts > of > benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably more > inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for > most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and > more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in > particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed on the > Web for more than 20 years. > > > > At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear > beside > one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what I > hear, > they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and they do > help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put the > banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL > expenses. > > > > > There are other ways to support CCL: > > 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL > > Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs > > This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the comp > > chem or related position. People tell me that they find > > a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do not > > find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job > > description. The ads have counters, so you can see that they > > are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a candidate > > is now. > > > > 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD. > > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd > > You can grep and do things like: > > find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \; > > and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case > > of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already ther?), > > the CCL will survive better than other computational chemistry > > repositories. Someone will have a copy of it. > > > > 3) You can also be a personal sponsor. > > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members > > For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular. > > BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollars, > > give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet hear about > > anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what do > > I know? > > > > 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops. > > This service is free but I do not shy if you help me > > with 50 USD donation: > > http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ > > > > Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital budget" for > CCL > and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of CCL is > you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your > contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and participating. > Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... Some > grad students were born after CCL started... > > > > Thank you all for being a part of CCL. > > Jan > > -- > > Jan Labanowski > > jkl%a%ccl.net and other addresses> > > -- > Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke) Brian.Salter-Duke*_*monash.edu > Adjunct Associate Professor > Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences > Monash University Parkville Campus, VIC 3052, Australiahttp:// > www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt> > > --001a11c24118e7ff7605143dc13f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Concur, as evidenced by the fact that questions regarding = Gaussian often do not explicitly state that it is the software to which the= question pertains; while those questions addressing other packages almost = invariably lead with identification of the relevant software.

-Brian

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jim Kress jimkress35,,gmail.com <owner-chemistry*ccl.net> wrote:

Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [jimkress35,+,gmail.com]
Agree.

Jim

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[mailto:owner-chemistry+jim= kress35=3D=3Dgmail.com=3Dccl.net] On Behalf Of=
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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:31 PM
To: Kress, Jim
Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous?


Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James "
[brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan,

Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they should<= br> as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other programs,=
e.g.
GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users to help=
each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a very inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list.
Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is called the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this shames the= m
into doing so.

Cheers, Brian.


On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote:
>
> Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net
> Dear CCL,
> This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about support= ing
CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local Columbus O= H
NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a member...)= .
Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these bursts o= f
benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably more<= br> inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in
particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed on the=
Web for more than 20 years.
>
> At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear be= side
one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what I hear= ,
they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and they do=
help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put the<= br> banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL expenses= .

>
> There are other ways to support CCL:
> 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the c= omp
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 chem or related position. People tell me that they find > =C2=A0=C2=A0 a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do no= t
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job<= br> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 description. The ads have counters, so you can see that t= hey
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a can= didate
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 is now.
>
> 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD.
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 You can grep and do things like:
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \; > =C2=A0=C2=A0 and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already= ther?),
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 the CCL will survive better than other computational chem= istry
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 repositories. Someone will have a copy of it.
>
> 3) You can also be a personal sponsor.
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular.<= br> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollar= s,
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet he= ar about
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what= do
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 I know?
>
> 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops.
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 This service is free but I do not shy if you help me
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 with 50 USD donation:
> =C2=A0=C2=A0 http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/con= ferences/
>
> Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital budget= " for CCL
and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of CCL is=
you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your
contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and participating.=
Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... Some grad students were born after CCL started...
>
> Thank you all for being a part of CCL.
> Jan
> --
> Jan Labanowski
> jkl%a%ccl.net and oth= er addresses>

--
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Monash Institute of Pharmaceutica= l Sciences
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