CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous?
- From: Brian Skinn <bskinn++alum.mit.edu>
- Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL
prosperous?
- Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:32:22 -0400
Concur, as evidenced by the fact that questions regarding Gaussian often do
not explicitly state that it is the software to which the question
pertains; while those questions addressing other packages almost invariably
lead with identification of the relevant software.
-Brian
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jim Kress jimkress35,,gmail.com <
owner-chemistry*ccl.net> wrote:
>
> Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [jimkress35,+,gmail.com]
> Agree.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com=ccl.net
> [mailto:owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com=ccl.net] On Behalf Of
> Salter-Duke, Brian James brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:31 PM
> To: Kress, Jim
> Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous?
>
>
> Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James "
> [brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan,
>
> Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they should
> as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other programs,
> e.g.
> GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users to help
> each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a very
> inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list.
> Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is called
> the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this shames
> them
> into doing so.
>
> Cheers, Brian.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote:
> >
> > Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net
> > Dear CCL,
> > This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about
supporting
> CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local Columbus
> OH
> NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a
> member...).
> Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these bursts
> of
> benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably more
> inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for
> most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and
> more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in
> particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed on the
> Web for more than 20 years.
> >
> > At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear
> beside
> one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what I
> hear,
> they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and they do
> help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put the
> banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL
> expenses.
>
> >
> > There are other ways to support CCL:
> > 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL
> > Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs
> > This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the comp
> > chem or related position. People tell me that they find
> > a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do not
> > find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job
> > description. The ads have counters, so you can see that they
> > are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a candidate
> > is now.
> >
> > 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD.
> > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd
> > You can grep and do things like:
> > find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \;
> > and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case
> > of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already ther?),
> > the CCL will survive better than other computational chemistry
> > repositories. Someone will have a copy of it.
> >
> > 3) You can also be a personal sponsor.
> > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members
> > For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular.
> > BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollars,
> > give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet hear about
> > anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what do
> > I know?
> >
> > 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops.
> > This service is free but I do not shy if you help me
> > with 50 USD donation:
> > http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/
> >
> > Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital
budget" for
> CCL
> and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of CCL is
> you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your
> contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and participating.
> Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... Some
> grad students were born after CCL started...
> >
> > Thank you all for being a part of CCL.
> > Jan
> > --
> > Jan Labanowski
> > jkl%a%ccl.net and other addresses>
>
> --
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