From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Apr 21 15:50:01 2015 From: "Gary W Trucks trucks|-|gaussian.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? Message-Id: <-51295-150421144127-25156-rwbWIatBll1nH9WbQnS8bA_._server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Gary W Trucks" Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 14:41:26 -0400 Sent to CCL by: "Gary W Trucks" [trucks-#-gaussian.com] Gaussian, Inc. has a team of highly experienced Ph.D. theoretical chemists who do full time technical support. The best and most accurate support for Gaussian is available directly from us. We respond to dozens of messages each day in both English and Mandarin. If you have an issue, please write to help:+:gaussian.com. Best regards, Gary W. Trucks, Ph.D. Vice President, Research & Development Gaussian, Inc. > "Brian Skinn bskinn~~alum.mit.edu" wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: Brian Skinn [bskinn=alum.mit.edu] > --001a11c24118e7ff7605143dc13f > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Concur, as evidenced by the fact that questions regarding Gaussian often do > not explicitly state that it is the software to which the question > pertains; while those questions addressing other packages almost invariably > lead with identification of the relevant software. > > -Brian > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jim Kress jimkress35,,gmail.com < > owner-chemistry*ccl.net> wrote: > > > > > Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [jimkress35,+,gmail.com] > > Agree. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com=ccl.net > > [mailto:owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com=ccl.net] On Behalf Of > > Salter-Duke, Brian James brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com > > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:31 PM > > To: Kress, Jim > > Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? > > > > > > Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James " > > [brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan, > > > > Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they should > > as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other programs, > > e.g. > > GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users to help > > each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a very > > inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list. > > Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is called > > the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this shames > > them > > into doing so. > > > > Cheers, Brian. > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote: > > > > > > Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net > > > Dear CCL, > > > This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about supporting > > CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local Columbus > > OH > > NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a > > member...). > > Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these bursts > > of > > benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably more > > inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for > > most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and > > more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in > > particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed on the > > Web for more than 20 years. > > > > > > At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear > > beside > > one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what I > > hear, > > they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and they do > > help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put the > > banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL > > expenses. > > > > > > > > There are other ways to support CCL: > > > 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL > > > Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs > > > This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the comp > > > chem or related position. People tell me that they find > > > a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do not > > > find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job > > > description. The ads have counters, so you can see that they > > > are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a candidate > > > is now. > > > > > > 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD. > > > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd > > > You can grep and do things like: > > > find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \; > > > and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case > > > of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already ther?), > > > the CCL will survive better than other computational chemistry > > > repositories. Someone will have a copy of it. > > > > > > 3) You can also be a personal sponsor. > > > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members > > > For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular. > > > BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollars, > > > give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet hear about > > > anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what do > > > I know? > > > > > > 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops. > > > This service is free but I do not shy if you help me > > > with 50 USD donation: > > > http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ > > > > > > Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital budget" for > > CCL > > and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of CCL is > > you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your > > contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and participating. > > Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... Some > > grad students were born after CCL started... > > > > > > Thank you all for being a part of CCL. > > > Jan > > > -- > > > Jan Labanowski > > > jkl%a%ccl.net and other addresses> > > > > -- > > Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke) Brian.Salter-Duke*_*monash.edu > > Adjunct Associate Professor > > Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences > > Monash University Parkville Campus, VIC 3052, Australiahttp:// > > www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt> > > > > > > --001a11c24118e7ff7605143dc13f > Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >
Concur, as evidenced by the fact that questions regarding = > Gaussian often do not explicitly state that it is the software to which the= > question pertains; while those questions addressing other packages almost = > invariably lead with identification of the relevant software.

>
-Brian

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> Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [jimkress35,+, .com" target=3D"_blank">gmail.com]
> Agree.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-chemistry+jimkress35=3D=3D get=3D"_blank">gmail.com=3D >ccl.net
> [mailto:owner-chemistry+jim= > kress35=3D=3Dgmail.com a>=3Dccl.net] On Behalf Of= >
> Salter-Duke, Brian James=C2=A0 om" target=3D"_blank">brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:31 PM
> To: Kress, Jim
> Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous?
>
>
> Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James "
>
[brian.james.duke,+, om" target=3D"_blank">gmail.com] Hi Jan,
>
> Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they should<= > br> > as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other programs,= >
> e.g.
> GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users to help= >
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> into doing so.
>
> Cheers, Brian.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, y.net" target=3D"_blank">janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote:
> >
> > Sent to CCL by: janl%% k">speakeasy.net
> > Dear CCL,
> > This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about support= > ing
> CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local Columbus O= > H
> NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a member...)= > .
> Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these bursts o= > f
> benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably more<= > br> > inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for > > most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and > > more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in
> particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed on the= >
> Web for more than 20 years.
> >
> > At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear be= > side
> one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what I hear= > ,
> they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and they do= >
> help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put the<= > br> > banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL expenses= > .
>
> >
> > There are other ways to support CCL:
> > 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 Details: lank">http://www.ccl.net/jobs
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the c= > omp
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 chem or related position. People tell me that they find r> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do no= > t
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job<= > br> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 description. The ads have counters, so you can see that t= > hey
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a can= > didate
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 is now.
> >
> > 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD.
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D"_blank">http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 You can grep and do things like:
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \; > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already= > ther?),
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 the CCL will survive better than other computational chem= > istry
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 repositories. Someone will have a copy of it.
> >
> > 3) You can also be a personal sponsor.
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 ers" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members >
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular.<= > br> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollar= > s,
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet he= > ar about
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what= > do
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 I know?
> >
> > 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops.
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 This service is free but I do not shy if you help me
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 with 50 USD donation:
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0
ferences/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/con= > ferences/
> >
> > Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital budget= > " for CCL
> and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of CCL is= >
> you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your
> contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and participating.= >
> Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... Some > > grad students were born after CCL started...
> >
> > Thank you all for being a part of CCL.
> > Jan
> > --
> > Jan Labanowski
> > jkl%a%ccl.net and oth= > er addresses>
>
> --
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke)=C2=A0 =C2=A0Brian.Salter-Duke*_= > *monash.edu
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Adjun= > ct Associate Professor
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Monash Institute of Pharmaceutica= > l Sciences
>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Monash University Parkville Campus, VIC 30= > 52, Australiahttp:// agehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.= > txt" target=3D"_blank">www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.c= > cl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt
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