CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous?

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 > "Brian Skinn bskinn~~alum.mit.edu"  wrote:
 >
 > Sent to CCL by: Brian Skinn [bskinn=alum.mit.edu]
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 > Concur, as evidenced by the fact that questions regarding Gaussian often do
 > not explicitly state that it is the software to which the question
 > pertains; while those questions addressing other packages almost invariably
 > lead with identification of the relevant software.
 >
 > -Brian
 >
 > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jim Kress jimkress35,,gmail.com <
 > owner-chemistry*ccl.net> wrote:
 >
 > >
 > > Sent to CCL by: "Jim Kress" [jimkress35,+,gmail.com]
 > > Agree.
 > >
 > > Jim
 > >
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > > From: owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com=ccl.net
 > > [mailto:owner-chemistry+jimkress35==gmail.com=ccl.net] On Behalf Of
 > > Salter-Duke, Brian James  brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com
 > > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:31 PM
 > > To: Kress, Jim
 > > Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous?
 > >
 > >
 > > Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James "
 > > [brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan,
 > >
 > > Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they
 should
 > > as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other
 programs,
 > > e.g.
 > > GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users to
 help
 > > each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a
 very
 > > inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list.
 > > Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is
 called
 > > the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this
 shames
 > > them
 > > into doing so.
 > >
 > > Cheers, Brian.
 > >
 > >
 > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote:
 > > >
 > > > Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net
 > > > Dear CCL,
 > > > This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about
 supporting
 > > CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local
 Columbus
 > > OH
 > > NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a
 > > member...).
 > > Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these
 bursts
 > > of
 > > benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably
 more
 > > inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free
 for
 > > most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more
 and
 > > more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in
 > > particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed
 on the
 > > Web for more than 20 years.
 > > >
 > > > At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon
 disappear
 > > beside
 > > one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what I
 > > hear,
 > > they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and
 they do
 > > help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put
 the
 > > banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL
 > > expenses.
 > >
 > > >
 > > > There are other ways to support CCL:
 > > > 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL
 > > >    Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs
 > > >    This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the comp
 > > >    chem or related position. People tell me that they find
 > > >    a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do not
 > > >    find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job
 > > >    description. The ads have counters, so you can see that they
 > > >    are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a
 candidate
 > > >    is now.
 > > >
 > > > 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD.
 > > >    http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd
 > > >    You can grep and do things like:
 > > >      find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \;
 > > >    and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case
 > > >    of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already
 ther?),
 > > >    the CCL will survive better than other computational chemistry
 > > >    repositories. Someone will have a copy of it.
 > > >
 > > > 3) You can also be a personal sponsor.
 > > >    http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members
 > > >    For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular.
 > > >    BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollars,
 > > >    give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet hear
 about
 > > >    anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what do
 > > >    I know?
 > > >
 > > > 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops.
 > > >    This service is free but I do not shy if you help me
 > > >    with 50 USD donation:
 > > >    http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/
 > > >
 > > > Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital
 budget" for
 > > CCL
 > > and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of
 CCL is
 > > you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments,
 your
 > > contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and
 participating.
 > > Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing...
 Some
 > > grad students were born after CCL started...
 > > >
 > > > Thank you all for being a part of CCL.
 > > > Jan
 > > > --
 > > > Jan Labanowski
 > > > jkl%a%ccl.net and other addresses>
 > >
 > > --
 > >    Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke)   Brian.Salter-Duke*_*monash.edu
 > >                     Adjunct Associate Professor
 > >             Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences
 > >       Monash University Parkville Campus, VIC 3052, Australiahttp-:-//
 > > www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp-:-//www.ccl.net/spammers.txt>;
 > >
 > >
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 > <div dir=3D"ltr">Concur, as evidenced by the fact that
 questions regarding =
 > Gaussian often do not explicitly state that it is the software to which
 the=
 >  question pertains; while those questions addressing other packages almost
 =
 > invariably lead with identification of the relevant
 software.<div><br></div=
 > ><div>-Brian</div></div><div
 class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
 > quote">On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jim Kress
 jimkress35,,<a href=3D"h=
 > ttp://gmail.com">gmail.com</a> <span
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:owne=
 > r-chemistry*ccl.net"
 target=3D"_blank">owner-chemistry*ccl.net</a>&gt;</spa=
 > n> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
 > order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
 > Sent to CCL by: &quot;Jim Kress&quot; [jimkress35,+,<a
 href=3D"http://gmail=
 > .com" target=3D"_blank">gmail.com</a>]<br>
 > Agree.<br>
 > <br>
 > Jim<br>
 > <span class=3D""><br>
 > -----Original Message-----<br>
 > &gt; From: owner-chemistry+jimkress35=3D=3D<a href=3D"http://gmail.com"; tar=
 > get=3D"_blank">gmail.com</a>=3D<a href=3D"http://ccl.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
 > >ccl.net</a><br>
 > [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:owner-chemistry%2Bjimkress35";>owner-chemistry+jim=
 > kress35</a>=3D=3D<a href=3D"http://gmail.com";
 target=3D"_blank">gmail.com</=
 > a>=3D<a href=3D"http://ccl.net";
 target=3D"_blank">ccl.net</a>] On Behalf Of=
 > <br>
 > Salter-Duke, Brian James=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://brian.james.duke_-_gmail.c=
 > om"
 target=3D"_blank">brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com</a><br>
 > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:31 PM<br>
 > To: Kress, Jim<br>
 > Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous?<br>
 > <br>
 > <br>
 > Sent to CCL by: &quot;Salter-Duke, Brian James &quot;<br>
 > </span><div><div
 class=3D"h5">[brian.james.duke,+,<a href=3D"http://gmail.c=
 > om" target=3D"_blank">gmail.com</a>] Hi
 Jan,<br>
 > <br>
 > Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they
 should<=
 > br>
 > as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other
 programs,=
 > <br>
 > e.g.<br>
 > GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users to
 help=
 > <br>
 > each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a
 very<br=
 > >
 > inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a
 list.<br>
 > Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is
 called<b=
 > r>
 > the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this shames
 the=
 > m<br>
 > into doing so.<br>
 > <br>
 > Cheers, Brian.<br>
 > <br>
 > <br>
 > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, <a href=3D"http://janl-x-speakeas=
 > y.net" target=3D"_blank">janl-x-speakeasy.net</a>
 wrote:<br>
 > &gt;<br>
 > &gt; Sent to CCL by: janl%%<a href=3D"http://speakeasy.net";
 target=3D"_blan=
 > k">speakeasy.net</a><br>
 > &gt; Dear CCL,<br>
 > &gt; This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about
 support=
 > ing<br>
 > CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local Columbus
 O=
 > H<br>
 > NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a
 member...)=
 > .<br>
 > Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these bursts
 o=
 > f<br>
 > benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably
 more<=
 > br>
 > inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free
 for<br=
 > >
 > most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more
 and<br=
 > >
 > more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email
 in<br>
 > particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed on
 the=
 > <br>
 > Web for more than 20 years.<br>
 > &gt;<br>
 > &gt; At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon
 disappear be=
 > side<br>
 > one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what I
 hear=
 > ,<br>
 > they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and they
 do=
 > <br>
 > help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to put
 the<=
 > br>
 > banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL
 expenses=
 > .<br>
 > <br>
 > &gt;<br>
 > &gt; There are other ways to support CCL:<br>
 > &gt; 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 Details: <a href=3D"http://www.ccl.net/jobs"; target=3D"_b=
 > lank">http://www.ccl.net/jobs</a><br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 This service is VERY successful if you look to fill
 the c=
 > omp<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 chem or related position. People tell me that they
 find<b=
 > r>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some
 do no=
 > t<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the
 job<=
 > br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 description. The ads have counters, so you can see
 that t=
 > hey<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a
 can=
 > didate<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 is now.<br>
 > &gt;<br>
 > &gt; 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250
 USD.<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd"; target=
 > =3D"_blank">http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd</a><br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 You can grep and do things like:<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {}
 \;<br=
 > >
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 and find stuff that Google will not show. And in
 case<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am
 already=
 >  ther?),<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 the CCL will survive better than other computational
 chem=
 > istry<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 repositories. Someone will have a copy of
 it.<br>
 > &gt;<br>
 > &gt; 3) You can also be a personal sponsor.<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_memb=
 > ers" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members</a=
 > ><br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be
 popular.<=
 > br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion
 dollar=
 > s,<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not
 yet he=
 > ar about<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but
 what=
 >  do<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 I know?<br>
 > &gt;<br>
 > &gt; 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops.<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 This service is free but I do not shy if you help
 me<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 with 50 USD donation:<br>
 > &gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/con=
 > ferences/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/con=
 > ferences/</a><br>
 > &gt;<br>
 > &gt; Of course, you can help financially - this is the
 &quot;capital budget=
 > &quot; for CCL<br>
 > and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of CCL
 is=
 > <br>
 > you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments,
 your<br>
 > contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and
 participating.=
 > <br>
 > Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing...
 Some<br=
 > >
 > grad students were born after CCL started...<br>
 > &gt;<br>
 > &gt; Thank you all for being a part of CCL.<br>
 > &gt; Jan<br>
 > &gt; --<br>
 > &gt; Jan Labanowski<br>
 > &gt; jkl%a%<a href=3D"http://ccl.net";
 target=3D"_blank">ccl.net</a> and oth=
 > er addresses&gt;<br>
 > <br>
 > --<br>
 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke)=C2=A0
 =C2=A0Brian.Salter-Duke*_=
 > *<a href=3D"http://monash.edu";
 target=3D"_blank">monash.edu</a><br>
 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
 Adjun=
 > ct Associate Professor<br>
 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Monash Institute of
 Pharmaceutica=
 > l Sciences<br>
 > </div></div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Monash University Parkville
 Campus, VIC 30=
 > 52, Australiahttp://<a
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