From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Tue Apr 21 18:36:00 2015 From: "Robert Molt r.molt.chemical.physics.*.gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? Message-Id: <-51297-150421172919-3288-j7gRUgTkyPpJtYUI/M/DWw*server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Robert Molt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:29:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Robert Molt [r.molt.chemical.physics]*[gmail.com] Update: in response to the previous post of mine, a kind higher-up in Gaussian email me to inquire what technical question was missed. The gentleman said he would look into the matter of the emails of mine which were not responded to. I thus should fairly report this lest I malign someone unfairly! -Robert On 4/21/15 1:47 PM, Robert Molt r.molt.chemical.physics|,|gmail.com wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: Robert Molt [r.molt.chemical.physics|-|gmail.com] > Gaussian has ignored some of my more technical requests. Not that they > are obliged to answer them, mind you. > > On 4/21/15 10:54 AM, Chang, Christopher Christopher.Chang],[nrel.gov > wrote: >> To be fair, upon visiting their website one can mouse over "Tech >> Support," >> click on "More...," and be presented with quite a lot of information, >> including "Contacting Gaussian, Inc. Technical Support." Granted it's >> not a >> mailing list, but their model allows them to ensure information is >> correct >> as ways of doing things, keywords, etc. change. >> >> I don't think I've ever had a request for help ignored by Gaussian. I >> can't >> say the same for mailing lists in general. CCL raises the bar though, >> and is >> a fantastic resource. That DVD is intriguing... >> >> - Chris >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-chemistry+christopher.chang==nrel.gov:ccl.net >> [mailto:owner-chemistry+christopher.chang==nrel.gov:ccl.net] On >> Behalf Of >> Salter-Duke, Brian James brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com >> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 8:31 PM >> To: Chang, Christopher >> Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous? >> >> >> Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James " >> [brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan, >> >> Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they >> should >> as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other >> programs, >> e.g. >> GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users >> to help >> each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a very >> inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list. >> Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is >> called >> the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this >> shames them >> into doing so. >> >> Cheers, Brian. >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote: >>> Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net >>> Dear CCL, >>> This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about >>> supporting >> CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my local >> Columbus OH >> NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a >> member...). >> Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these >> bursts of >> benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably >> more >> inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for >> most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and >> more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in >> particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed >> on the >> Web for more than 20 years. >>> At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will soon disappear >>> beside >> one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years. From what >> I hear, >> they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and >> they do >> help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to >> put the >> banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL >> expenses. >> >>> There are other ways to support CCL: >>> 1) Advertise the open positions on CCL >>> Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs >>> This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the comp >>> chem or related position. People tell me that they find >>> a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do not >>> find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job >>> description. The ads have counters, so you can see that they >>> are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a candidate >>> is now. >>> >>> 2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD. >>> http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd >>> You can grep and do things like: >>> find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \; >>> and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case >>> of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already ther?), >>> the CCL will survive better than other computational chemistry >>> repositories. Someone will have a copy of it. >>> >>> 3) You can also be a personal sponsor. >>> http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members >>> For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular. >>> BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollars, >>> give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet hear about >>> anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what do >>> I know? >>> >>> 4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops. >>> This service is free but I do not shy if you help me >>> with 50 USD donation: >>> http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ >>> >>> Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital budget" >>> for CCL >> and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The operation of >> CCL is >> you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your >> contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and >> participating. >> Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... Some >> grad students were born after CCL started... >>> Thank you all for being a part of CCL. >>> Jan >>> -- >>> Jan Labanowski >>> jkl%a%ccl.net and other addresses> > -- Dr. Robert Molt Jr. r.molt.chemical.physics**gmail.com Nigel Richards Research Group Department of Chemistry & Chemical Biology Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis LD 326 402 N. Blackford St. Indianapolis, IN 46202