To be fair, upon visiting their website one can mouse
over "Tech
Support,"
click on "More...," and be presented with quite a lot of information,
including "Contacting Gaussian, Inc. Technical Support."
Granted it's
not a
mailing list, but their model allows them to ensure information is
correct
as ways of doing things, keywords, etc. change.
I don't think I've ever had a request for help ignored by Gaussian. I
can't
say the same for mailing lists in general. CCL raises the bar though,
and is
a fantastic resource. That DVD is intriguing...
- Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-chemistry+christopher.chang==nrel.gov:ccl.net
[mailto:owner-chemistry+christopher.chang==nrel.gov:ccl.net]
On
Behalf Of
Salter-Duke, Brian James brian.james.duke_-_gmail.com
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 8:31 PM
To: Chang, Christopher
Subject: CCL:G: How are you feeling about making CCL prosperous?
Sent to CCL by: "Salter-Duke, Brian James "
[brian.james.duke,+,gmail.com] Hi Jan,
Does Gaussian Inc contribute any funds to CCL? If not, I think they
should
as it is used as the main Gaussian support email list. Most other
programs,
e.g.
GAMESS(US), GAMESS(UK), Dalton, Orca, have their own list for users
to help
each other and attract the attention of the developers. I support a very
inactive list for VB2000. I do not believe Gaussian has such a list.
Actually I believe many users think there is such a list and it is
called
the CCL. If they do not contribute any funds to CCL, I hope this
shames them
into doing so.
Cheers, Brian.
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:08:18PM -0400, janl-x-speakeasy.net wrote:
Sent to CCL by: janl%%speakeasy.net
Dear CCL,
This is an infrequent message from the CCL Administrator about
supporting
CCL. I am quite inspired with the recent fund drive for my
local
Columbus OH
NPR radio station that was supposedly successful (Oh yes, I am a
member...).
Maybe it is the spring in the Northern Hemisphere that makes these
bursts of
benevolent reflexes in people (but not animals...)? But I am probably
more
inspired by the abysmal state of CCL support. Of course, CCL is free for
most of you, but not necessarily for me. It is getting actually more and
more taxing on my time due to the state of Internet, and the email in
particular. Lucky you, who do not have their email address displayed
on the
Web for more than 20 years.
At this point, the banners on the CCL Home page will
soon disappear
beside
one. They are 1000 USD for a year or 2000 USD for 3 years.
From what
I hear,
they are successful, they bring the traffic to the banner site, and
they do
help. And bring good publicity. Encourage your marketing people to
put the
banner on CCL. It works, and it will also help me to cope with CCL
expenses.
There are other ways to support CCL:
1) Advertise the open positions on CCL
Details: http://www.ccl.net/jobs
This service is VERY successful if you look to fill the comp
chem or related position. People tell me that they find
a suitable candidate often in days. Of course, some do not
find the candidates that fast, but it depends on the job
description. The ads have counters, so you can see that they
are visited. With fall approaching the time to find a candidate
is now.
2) Buy the DVD archive of CCL for your group for 250 USD.
http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/buy_dvd
You can grep and do things like:
find . -type f -exec grep -li gamess {} \;
and find stuff that Google will not show. And in case
of me getting incapacitated or senile (maybe I am already ther?),
the CCL will survive better than other computational chemistry
repositories. Someone will have a copy of it.
3) You can also be a personal sponsor.
http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/supporting_members
For two weeks of Starbucks your web site can be popular.
BTW, if you do not have kids and amassed a billion dollars,
give a chunk to CCL... I will take it... I did not yet hear about
anyone getting rich off Computational Chemistry, but what do
I know?
4) You can advertise your conferences and workshops.
This service is free but I do not shy if you help me
with 50 USD donation:
http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/
Of course, you can help financially - this is the "capital
budget"
for CCL
and you all understand that there is no free lunch. The
operation of
CCL is
you, though, with your thoughtful questions, answers and comments, your
contributions to CCL archives, and your staying with CCL and
participating.
Look... It runs since 1991 and still has participants... Amazing... Some
grad students were born after CCL started...
Thank you all for being a part of CCL.
Jan
--
Jan Labanowski
jkl%a%ccl.net and other addresses>