CCL: Complexation energy in a solvent.



 Sent to CCL by: "Christophe L Verlinde" [verlinde[-]uw.edu]
 Dear colleague,
 Be careful with the Wertz formula. A detailed critique was published
 by A. Ben-Naim and Y. Marcus
 see:  J. Chem. Phys. 81: 2016-2027 (1984); https://doi.org/10.1063/1.447824
 Sincerely,
 Christophe Verlinde, Ph.D.
 Associate professor Emeritus
 Dept. Biochemistry
 University of Washington
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 > "Pierre Archirel pierre.archirel ~~ universite-paris-saclay.fr"
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 >   Dear colleague,
 > In the case of non isomolecular reactions, like A+B -> AB,
 > the PCM method (with continuous solvent) is very problematic,
 > due to a poor balance in the translation and rotation entropies.
 > One empirical way is to use the Wertz formula, which is often
 > very efficient.
 > I use it often with success, see for example:
 > dx.doi.org/10.1021/jp2071524
 > P. Archirel et al.
 > J. Phys. Chem. B 2012, 116, 14671481
 >
 > and more recently:
 > https://dx.doi.org/10.1021/acs.jpca.0c08038
 > J. Phys. Chem. A XXXX, XXX, XXXXXX
 >
 > (you also may contact me directly if you need)
 > Best wishes,
 > Pierre Archirel,
 >   ICP universite Paris-Saclay, pierre.archirel:::universite-paris-saclay.fr
 >
 >
 > > Hello,
 > >
 > > I am trying to calculate the binding energy of a complex, A---B, in a
 > > continuous solvent, but am not sure how I can do that. I tried the
 > > energy difference E(A---B) - E(A) - E(B), each species in a solvent
 > > cavity, but the result is very high.
 > > Can anyone give me a hit, please?
 > >
 > > Best regards,
 > >
 > > Sergio
 > >
 > > Sergio Emanuel Galembeck
 > > Computational Quantum Chemistry Laboratory
 > > Departamento de Qumica - FFCLRP-USP
 > > Av. Bandeirantes, 3900
 > > 14040-901 - Ribeirao Preto-SP
 > > Brasil
 > >
 > > phone: +55(16)33153765
 > > segalemb=-=usp.br <mailto:segalemb=-=usp.br>
 >
 >
 > --
 >
 > ______________________________________________________________
 >
 >   Pierre Archirel
 >   Groupe Thosim: Thorie et Simulation
 >   Laboratoire de Chimie Physique      Tel: 01 69 15 63 86
 >   Bt 349                             Fax: 01 69 15 61 88
 >   91405 Orsay Cdex
 >   France            pierre.archirel*o*universite-paris-saclay.fr
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 >       Dear colleague,<br>
 >       In the case of non isomolecular reactions, like A+B -&gt;
 AB,<br>
 >       the PCM method (with continuous solvent) is very
 problematic,<br>
 >       due to a poor balance in the translation and rotation
 entropies.<br>
 >       One empirical way is to use the Wertz formula, which is often
 <br>
 >       very efficient.<br>
 >       I use it often with success, see for example:<br>
 >       dx.doi.org/10.1021/jp2071524<br>
 >       P. Archirel et al.<br>
 >       J. Phys. Chem. B 2012, 116, 14671481<br>
 >       <br>
 >       and more recently:<br>
 >       <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="https://dx.doi.org/10.1021/acs.jpca.0c08038";>https://dx.doi.org/10.1021/acs
 .jpca.0c08038</a><br>
 >       J. Phys. Chem. A XXXX, XXX, XXXXXX<br>
 >       <br>
 >       (you also may contact me directly if you need)<br>
 >       Best wishes,<br>
 >       Pierre Archirel,<br>
 >       ICP universite Paris-Saclay,
 >       pierre.archirel:::universite-paris-saclay.fr<br>
 >       <br>
 >       <br>
 >     </div>
 >     <blockquote
 > cite="mid:-id%234f5-54238-201221124320-32275-
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 >             <div>Hello,</div>
 >             <div><br>
 >             </div>
 >             <div>I am trying to calculate the binding energy of a
 >               complex, A---B, in a</div>
 >             <div>continuoussolvent, but am not sure how I can do
 that.
 >               I tried the</div>
 >             <div>energy difference E(A---B) - E(A) - E(B), each
 species
 >               in a solvent</div>
 >             <div>cavity, but the result is very high.</div>
 >             <div>Can anyone give me a hit, please?</div>
 >             <div><br>
 >             </div>
 >             <div>Best regards,</div>
 >             <div><br>
 >             </div>
 >             <div>Sergio</div>
 >             <div dir="ltr"><br>
 >             </div>
 >             <div dir="ltr">Sergio Emanuel
 Galembeck</div>
 >             <div dir="ltr">Computational Quantum Chemistry
 Laboratory<br>
 >               <div>Departamento de Qumica - FFCLRP-USP</div>
 >               <div>Av. Bandeirantes, 3900</div>
 >               <div>14040-901 - Ribeirao Preto-SP</div>
 >               <div>Brasil</div>
 >               <div><br>
 >               </div>
 >               <div>phone: +55(16)33153765</div>
 >               <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
 >                   href="mailto:segalemb=-=usp.br"; target="_blank">segalemb=-
 =usp.br</a></div>
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 >           </div>
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 > ______________________________________________________________
 >
 >  Pierre Archirel
 >  Groupe Thosim: Thorie et Simulation
 >  Laboratoire de Chimie Physique      Tel: 01 69 15 63 86
 >  Bt 349                             Fax: 01 69 15 61 88
 >  91405 Orsay Cdex
 >  France            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
 href="mailto:pierre.archirel*o*universite-paris-
 saclay.fr">pierre.archirel*o*universite-paris-saclay.fr</a>
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